dendimaki/v1 · Datasets at Hugging Face

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dont have a lot to say about it it that that feels like a bunch of conceptual overlay that i want to get away from it just feels good it feels well spaciousness im coming at it from the layer three it just feels very full and beautiful and and its just good okay	lay3	27
most people will never make it there	lay4	28
its sort of like the problem with people saying theres no doer and that theres the doer can sort of go away and location two	loc2	18
so this and i think most christians have a more temporary experience of that theyre not as rooted in to location two layer three and you know their prayers occasionally work i think when they work theyre closer sort of in that type of direction or whatever and so you can you can maintain fluidity use location to layer three like that and not you know not have to lock that in for any period of time	loc2lay3	6
alternating presence	lay3	27
strong psychological triggers such as the death of a loved one can still cause a reaction in the system but for the most part there is persistent equanimity and joy	loc3lay1	8
sensing into the situation	lay4	28
they happen from within the context of fundamental wellbeing and not from and so that often makes people who are in fundamental wellbeing go one of two routes some of them will basically become more or less recluses while theyre growing up you know i mean they will not really socialize with other kids	tfw	22
music in location 1 layer 4 is a bridge to the ineffable notes and rhythms echoing the harmony of the cosmos	loc1lay4	3
peaceful abandonment	loc4	20
layer two with a whole bunch of other people who are immersing themselves in layer two at the same time	lay2	26
feeling of something here that is perceiving	loc2lay1	4
the magical sense is arising and becoming more foreground and its starting to feel like theres a miraculous quality to everything	lay2	26
popular term for this change in perception is nonduality or not two	loc2	18
world was unable to be any other way	loc3	19
it all sounds like location four	loc4	20
location two layer three the charmed life kind of thing is to have things come to you if that can be used as a phrase or at least using the agency to kind of make that happen	loc2lay3	6
nothing is gained	lay4	28
essentially comprises the conceptual mind	lay1	25
very mind oriented	lay1	25
seer or a looker	lay3	27
which from where i was those questions sounded ridiculous they had no meaning because at the time every time those questions would come up would there was just like an of course like i didnt use this languaging or these words in response to that but the but the response was in effect im here like i wouldnt be here if i didnt care about you or if you werent important so i mean there was like a really deeply ingrained sense that yes youre important and wouldnt be here showing up otherwise and yet he was really feeling bothered and dont know if would say threatened but the kinds of things that he was looking for love care and affection god that probably wasnt affectionate when you think about it	loc4	20
call 3d normal processing its also habitual it helps me make sense of other experiences and it feels really very grounding that i can im more think when im when im using the physical eyes instead of other ways of seeing i its easier to to be with other people and just navigate this existence but dont identify right it doesnt feel like the sphere is personal but it seems to be a way to to use this physicality	loc3	19
creation reality the dream whatever is the stuff of the spaciousness is the stuff of the emptiness is the stuff of the spacious emptiness	lay2	26
layer four experience	lay4	28
sensation which is separate to other universe mind bodies in a sense this is where ive got to be very careful because you know with the with the medicine journeys like the and i dont know whether this is the different like layers locations and so on but ive had so many different experiences there	lay2	26
an individualized sense of self were reported as	loc4	20
thats one direction that people can take she very much took one direction and then another direction you know in a way more like you or many others even my mom	tfw	22
it felt like my vision was going back like like something was wrong with my vision um so thats the only the only thing it just seems to mean it cant be more flat but you know whatever that sort of you know sense of just you know no extension you know it again it seems like there can be extension but its not the default at all you know like i said i wake up i wake up and everythings flat	loc4	20
nervousness and the spaciousness	lay2	26
planning and execution of actions	loc5+	16
so in the fullness just feels really full	lay3	27
i dont know and theres still theres an awareness that never goes away that im not this right this is well this is a way to interact and interface and uh but its an extraordinarily confining uh oh compression so you know i really i really value the research orientation of your work which is what drew me to the body of your work and ive been trying to fit myself into the matrix because i know that theres lots of excellent data in it um and and honestly i just im struggling against the binary distinctions it feels it feels odd	loc3lay3	10
its actually like a mona lisa smile its like a little tiny smile its you know and so i think for that theres at least layer three where theres a warmth in the system but its never personal	lay3	27
layer one level	lay1	25
im not im not you know concluding this yet but it does look like that that description is more layer two	lay2	26
joy and happiness	loc3	19
location three its like they sink more into some aspect of the qualities that hold them in location three at layer three you know and they dont quite get to you know the the progression from layer four and then location four kind of standpoint	loc3lay3	10
do you have you ever had an experience where your sense of self shifts in the direction of that spaciousness	lay1	25
obviously on location three in the sort of the degree of it that you have which is a very sort of worship y you know intense in a way kind of experience of of the divine aspect of it you know theres all sorts of encounters with things that can be like reported as angels and stuff like that so basically entities are not a strange thing to have reported people dont usually say theyre extraterrestrials but i dont know whats going on in the brain per se around that but my guess is you know different you know different representations of whatever showing up for different stuff i remember this years ago i was back	loc3	19
have a presence	lay3	27
nondual side	loc2	18
you know shift me in there or if i should focus on the love feelings first and then	loc3	19
a panpsychists an all pervasive consciousness	loc3	19
highly sensitive to light	nfw	21
single emotional expression	loc3	19
you say that when youre doing the medieval mystical chant you feel very centered and connected with divine spirit	loc3	19
false identities	loc2lay1	4
there was a learning period where you were maturing as a human being and during that learning period it seems that the individualized self which comes on seemingly around two and a half to three and a half years of age with episodic memory coming online in the brain it seems like what happens there is that these things kind of smear together	loc5+	16
with layer four	lay4	28
its looking from here out	lay2	26
turn your attention back to fundamental wellbeing	tfwp	24
it will most likely just feel like a physiological sort of response that used to form into a more complex emotion if its very strong there might be some emotion that arises but it will probably feel like its arising as sort of part of or somehow transparent to that universal love joy compassion meta emotion	loc3	19
larger than and to extend beyond the physical	loc1	17
everything turns into flatness	loc3	19
personal development training in where love was	loc3	19
but i think one thing that your layer one could do it would be nice your mind could do that would be nice and that you could do maybe in terms of reminding your mind would be to just be okay accepting more of your experience without all of this second guessing	lay1	25
no longer that total nondual sensory	loc3	19
analogies and putting others down	loc1	17
this difference in where subjective experience centers appears to underlie the split in development after location 4 layer 3 has a quality of being beingness that falls away at layer 4 hence finders on the path of humanity return to experiencing a subtle quality of self	loc4lay3	14
in all likelihood	lay3	27
felt like it was something that i was observing or looking at now im being a little bit i dont know it just feels yeah im sort of you know im sort of sort of losing a little bit but yeah so maybe theres a bit more separation again now like its something im observing	lay2	26
transparent	lay2	26
spaciousness sounds more accessible than emptiness	lay2	26
zen	loc1	17
i dont know if id call it resonance i would call it like i can be there	lay1	25
seems like a very nice place to be a sense of divinity all the time you know loving your its you know youre happy very happy and so on and youre still able to interact in the world	loc3	19
meta emotion	loc3	19
no selfreferential thoughts	loc4lay1	12
just not say a word oftentimes or whatever right and they would just eventually stop talking and to sort of turn around confused and walk away or something like that	loc4	20
it doesnt sound like you have a very clear memory of that experience of union or dissolving into the divine so it might still have been location two	loc2	18
transitioning	loc1lay1	0
i really do like i said i have a charmed life	loc2	18
layer three can have that sort of you know emotional joyous amazing valence to it love based whatever valence	lay3	27
prisoner and selfconsciousness all went away	loc4	20
everything is just kind of arising on its own	lay2	26
vast emptiness	loc2	18
so thats sort of after layer two	lay2	26
empathy	loc3	19
sensory glitches	loc5+	16
sense of of union	loc3	19
even bad memories are often biased towards positive emotion	loc3	19
for some people location one is really where they prefer to be	loc1	17
presence permeates the space	lay1	25
container of that spacious emptiness	lay2	26
thinking is happening but without taking any form no image no sound no movement	loc5+	16
worries about my life in lay one create a vision for my life which i then implement and worry about convinced its right	loc3lay1	8
these protoemotions can also be consciously manipulated to prevent the full emotion from formingusing our previous example of getting upset when cut off in traffic individuals who have this ability to perceive a finer level of detail and gain control over what layers arise also have more control over their reactions	loc1	17
full related space or a more emptiness related space or something like that	lay2	26
it is common for layer 4 to be experienced as an unknowable or a mystery this is partly because one is unable to deepen into it and stabilize in it and partly because it cannot be known objectivelyor even subjectively in the usual sense	loc2lay4	7
attention is centered more in the present in direct experience rather than thoughts about experiencewhen layer 1 is no longer front and center in experience the overlay of labels concepts and interpretations on the beingexistence of everything falls away	loc1lay2	1
there is still a subtle duality or separation perceived between form and formless manifest and unmanifest which increasingly fades at greater depths of the experience	loc3lay3	10
no divinity	loc4	20
you know a depth of layer three that just releases something thats	lay3	27
glitchy things	nfw	21
because three is not a nondual location	loc3	19
think youre not in fundamental well being	nfw	21
three nonduality again at location four	loc4	20
i think yeah its more like the things are there and i can also when i close my eyes see colors or just theyre just there its not its just there i think there are times during my day when that shifts or changes when im really engaged in work or something but right now it just feels like its there	loc2	18
right so should also be trying to pull myself out of like nonduality or like like get more into being a looker or something or is that more like location one then	loc1	17

dont have a lot to say about it it that that feels like a bunch of conceptual overlay that i want to get away from it just feels good it feels well spaciousness im coming at it from the layer three it just feels very full and beautiful and and its just good okay

lay3

27

most people will never make it there

lay4

28

its sort of like the problem with people saying theres no doer and that theres the doer can sort of go away and location two

loc2

18

so this and i think most christians have a more temporary experience of that theyre not as rooted in to location two layer three and you know their prayers occasionally work i think when they work theyre closer sort of in that type of direction or whatever and so you can you can maintain fluidity use location to layer three like that and not you know not have to lock that in for any period of time

loc2lay3

6

alternating presence

lay3

27

strong psychological triggers such as the death of a loved one can still cause a reaction in the system but for the most part there is persistent equanimity and joy

loc3lay1

8

sensing into the situation

lay4

28

they happen from within the context of fundamental wellbeing and not from and so that often makes people who are in fundamental wellbeing go one of two routes some of them will basically become more or less recluses while theyre growing up you know i mean they will not really socialize with other kids

tfw

22

music in location 1 layer 4 is a bridge to the ineffable notes and rhythms echoing the harmony of the cosmos

loc1lay4

3

peaceful abandonment

loc4

20

layer two with a whole bunch of other people who are immersing themselves in layer two at the same time

lay2

26

feeling of something here that is perceiving

loc2lay1

4

the magical sense is arising and becoming more foreground and its starting to feel like theres a miraculous quality to everything

lay2

26

popular term for this change in perception is nonduality or not two

loc2

18

world was unable to be any other way

loc3

19

it all sounds like location four

loc4

20

location two layer three the charmed life kind of thing is to have things come to you if that can be used as a phrase or at least using the agency to kind of make that happen

loc2lay3

6

nothing is gained

lay4

28

essentially comprises the conceptual mind

lay1

25

very mind oriented

lay1

25

seer or a looker

lay3

27

which from where i was those questions sounded ridiculous they had no meaning because at the time every time those questions would come up would there was just like an of course like i didnt use this languaging or these words in response to that but the but the response was in effect im here like i wouldnt be here if i didnt care about you or if you werent important so i mean there was like a really deeply ingrained sense that yes youre important and wouldnt be here showing up otherwise and yet he was really feeling bothered and dont know if would say threatened but the kinds of things that he was looking for love care and affection god that probably wasnt affectionate when you think about it

loc4

20

call 3d normal processing its also habitual it helps me make sense of other experiences and it feels really very grounding that i can im more think when im when im using the physical eyes instead of other ways of seeing i its easier to to be with other people and just navigate this existence but dont identify right it doesnt feel like the sphere is personal but it seems to be a way to to use this physicality

loc3

19

creation reality the dream whatever is the stuff of the spaciousness is the stuff of the emptiness is the stuff of the spacious emptiness

lay2

26

layer four experience

lay4

28

sensation which is separate to other universe mind bodies in a sense this is where ive got to be very careful because you know with the with the medicine journeys like the and i dont know whether this is the different like layers locations and so on but ive had so many different experiences there

lay2

26

an individualized sense of self were reported as

loc4

20

thats one direction that people can take she very much took one direction and then another direction you know in a way more like you or many others even my mom

tfw

22

it felt like my vision was going back like like something was wrong with my vision um so thats the only the only thing it just seems to mean it cant be more flat but you know whatever that sort of you know sense of just you know no extension you know it again it seems like there can be extension but its not the default at all you know like i said i wake up i wake up and everythings flat

loc4

20

nervousness and the spaciousness

lay2

26

planning and execution of actions

loc5+

16

so in the fullness just feels really full

lay3

27

i dont know and theres still theres an awareness that never goes away that im not this right this is well this is a way to interact and interface and uh but its an extraordinarily confining uh oh compression so you know i really i really value the research orientation of your work which is what drew me to the body of your work and ive been trying to fit myself into the matrix because i know that theres lots of excellent data in it um and and honestly i just im struggling against the binary distinctions it feels it feels odd

loc3lay3

10

its actually like a mona lisa smile its like a little tiny smile its you know and so i think for that theres at least layer three where theres a warmth in the system but its never personal

lay3

27

layer one level

lay1

25

im not im not you know concluding this yet but it does look like that that description is more layer two

lay2

26

joy and happiness

loc3

19

location three its like they sink more into some aspect of the qualities that hold them in location three at layer three you know and they dont quite get to you know the the progression from layer four and then location four kind of standpoint

loc3lay3

10

do you have you ever had an experience where your sense of self shifts in the direction of that spaciousness

lay1

25

obviously on location three in the sort of the degree of it that you have which is a very sort of worship y you know intense in a way kind of experience of of the divine aspect of it you know theres all sorts of encounters with things that can be like reported as angels and stuff like that so basically entities are not a strange thing to have reported people dont usually say theyre extraterrestrials but i dont know whats going on in the brain per se around that but my guess is you know different you know different representations of whatever showing up for different stuff i remember this years ago i was back

loc3

19

have a presence

lay3

27

nondual side

loc2

18

you know shift me in there or if i should focus on the love feelings first and then

loc3

19

a panpsychists an all pervasive consciousness

loc3

19

highly sensitive to light

nfw

21

single emotional expression

loc3

19

you say that when youre doing the medieval mystical chant you feel very centered and connected with divine spirit

loc3

19

false identities

loc2lay1

4

there was a learning period where you were maturing as a human being and during that learning period it seems that the individualized self which comes on seemingly around two and a half to three and a half years of age with episodic memory coming online in the brain it seems like what happens there is that these things kind of smear together

loc5+

16

with layer four

lay4

28

its looking from here out

lay2

26

turn your attention back to fundamental wellbeing

tfwp

24

it will most likely just feel like a physiological sort of response that used to form into a more complex emotion if its very strong there might be some emotion that arises but it will probably feel like its arising as sort of part of or somehow transparent to that universal love joy compassion meta emotion

loc3

19

larger than and to extend beyond the physical

loc1

17

everything turns into flatness

loc3

19

personal development training in where love was

loc3

19

but i think one thing that your layer one could do it would be nice your mind could do that would be nice and that you could do maybe in terms of reminding your mind would be to just be okay accepting more of your experience without all of this second guessing

lay1

25

no longer that total nondual sensory

loc3

19

analogies and putting others down

loc1

17

this difference in where subjective experience centers appears to underlie the split in development after location 4 layer 3 has a quality of being beingness that falls away at layer 4 hence finders on the path of humanity return to experiencing a subtle quality of self

loc4lay3

14

in all likelihood

lay3

27

felt like it was something that i was observing or looking at now im being a little bit i dont know it just feels yeah im sort of you know im sort of sort of losing a little bit but yeah so maybe theres a bit more separation again now like its something im observing

lay2

26

transparent

lay2

26

spaciousness sounds more accessible than emptiness

lay2

26

zen

loc1

17

i dont know if id call it resonance i would call it like i can be there

lay1

25

seems like a very nice place to be a sense of divinity all the time you know loving your its you know youre happy very happy and so on and youre still able to interact in the world

loc3

19

meta emotion

loc3

19

no selfreferential thoughts

loc4lay1

12

just not say a word oftentimes or whatever right and they would just eventually stop talking and to sort of turn around confused and walk away or something like that

loc4

20

it doesnt sound like you have a very clear memory of that experience of union or dissolving into the divine so it might still have been location two

loc2

18

transitioning

loc1lay1

0

i really do like i said i have a charmed life

loc2

18

layer three can have that sort of you know emotional joyous amazing valence to it love based whatever valence

lay3

27

prisoner and selfconsciousness all went away

loc4

20

everything is just kind of arising on its own

lay2

26

vast emptiness

loc2

18

so thats sort of after layer two

lay2

26

empathy

loc3

19

sensory glitches

loc5+

16

sense of of union

loc3

19

even bad memories are often biased towards positive emotion

loc3

19

for some people location one is really where they prefer to be

loc1

17

presence permeates the space

lay1

25

container of that spacious emptiness

lay2

26

thinking is happening but without taking any form no image no sound no movement

loc5+

16

worries about my life in lay one create a vision for my life which i then implement and worry about convinced its right

loc3lay1

8

these protoemotions can also be consciously manipulated to prevent the full emotion from formingusing our previous example of getting upset when cut off in traffic individuals who have this ability to perceive a finer level of detail and gain control over what layers arise also have more control over their reactions

loc1

17

full related space or a more emptiness related space or something like that

lay2

26

it is common for layer 4 to be experienced as an unknowable or a mystery this is partly because one is unable to deepen into it and stabilize in it and partly because it cannot be known objectivelyor even subjectively in the usual sense

loc2lay4

7

attention is centered more in the present in direct experience rather than thoughts about experiencewhen layer 1 is no longer front and center in experience the overlay of labels concepts and interpretations on the beingexistence of everything falls away

loc1lay2

1

there is still a subtle duality or separation perceived between form and formless manifest and unmanifest which increasingly fades at greater depths of the experience

loc3lay3

10

no divinity

loc4

20

you know a depth of layer three that just releases something thats

lay3

27

glitchy things

nfw

21

because three is not a nondual location

loc3

19

think youre not in fundamental well being

nfw

21

three nonduality again at location four

loc4

20

i think yeah its more like the things are there and i can also when i close my eyes see colors or just theyre just there its not its just there i think there are times during my day when that shifts or changes when im really engaged in work or something but right now it just feels like its there

loc2

18

right so should also be trying to pull myself out of like nonduality or like like get more into being a looker or something or is that more like location one then

loc1

17