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it feels pretty full to me
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lay3
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panpsychism
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loc3
| 19 |
to a location 4 finder it feels like the debate is just happening it does not feel as if the person as an individual is wrapped up in it
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loc4
| 20 |
he said that he perceived that i had some old unconscious emotional stuff that hadnt been sorted through and that thats why i was having that experience
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loc4
| 20 |
layer 3 is probably the vastest of all layers to explore subjectively
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
thats layer three stuff
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lay3
| 27 |
divine love
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loc3
| 19 |
i saw the connection between the cells in the body and where they come from in the body
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nfw
| 21 |
all of my thoughts went away my mind is so still whatever else compared to the buzzing noise that was before and your normal egoic narrative sense of self
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
one thing that i think to pay attention to is when you are triggered next does it seem like will it seem like in that moment that if youre introspecting that theres been a shift of identity
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lay1
| 25 |
i think sometimes i glimpse location three every couple every now and then
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loc3
| 19 |
and you have location three i think the union experience um weve done you know weve spoken about it describing it if you havent experienced it of course its going to be something sort of hard to imagine
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loc3
| 19 |
when subjective experience is centered in layer 1 the activity of the mind will predominate momenttomoment experience
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
probably the use of psychedelics has been whats got me to that place but i also have just feel that felt that expansive sense of divine love to associating with location three layer three
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loc3
| 19 |
transitioning people
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loc1lay1
| 0 |
happy kid
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loc3
| 19 |
i wouldnt say theres been too much of a change in wellbeing
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tfw
| 22 |
i had a mystical experience where the light came into me and just threw me into ecstasy describing a sense of the divine in location three
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
negative emotions
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loc4
| 20 |
far from humanity
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loc5+
| 16 |
when something is very beautiful there is still this sense of im noticing its very beautiful
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lay1
| 25 |
feels like everything is just here
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lay2
| 26 |
happy
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loc3
| 19 |
theres no sense of divinity or anything theres no sense of panpsychist thing all there is things become very very alive everything is full of life and theres a joy i was thinking about love actually just this morning and theres really no sense of love because theres not a sense of other to be loved
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loc4
| 20 |
mind is much more quiet
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
layer 4 the raw experience of existence itself is rare and difficult to access from location 2 and it is nearly impossible to stabilize
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loc2lay4
| 7 |
like a sort of low energy state with the you know no emotion or very low affect and then yeah lack of motivation or ability to act upon intentions and a real no agency wouldnt necessarily involve you not doing anything would just feel like youre just watching it happen
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loc4
| 20 |
the mind content that buzzing is you know been pulled away from even more
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lay1
| 25 |
glitch
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nfw
| 21 |
it is fantastic
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lay3
| 27 |
produces any potential cognitive dissonance around that is the direct experiences that unfold
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tfw
| 22 |
the universal or divine lovejoycompassion tends to increasingly drown out personal emotion including personal forms of love until only one positive metaemotion of love joy and compassion remains
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
nondual type experience
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loc2
| 18 |
whatever thought processes precede it are at a level of the system that is out of subjective awareness
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loc4lay1
| 12 |
what about the the the stuff in layer four like a sense of flatness of perception the sense that theres sort of just this
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lay4
| 28 |
location seven
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loc5+
| 16 |
a sense of of presence
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lay3
| 27 |
it feels beyond states and experiences
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lay4
| 28 |
deep sense of impersonal love
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loc3
| 19 |
the night sky in location 1 layer 4 is a canvas of cosmic art each star a reminder of the vastness within and beyond
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
at location 2 these are much less likely to be identified as personal versus as just arising in a more impersonal way they also are more likely to dissolve spontaneously and rapidly
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
deconditioned neutral emotional relatively emotionally neutral or whatever kind of deeper layer one type experience
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lay1
| 25 |
in location two you obviously still have personal emotion in all likelihood or personal love
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loc2
| 18 |
sense of there not being a separate seer only
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loc2
| 18 |
layer one when im talking with people
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lay1
| 25 |
my suspicion is that you probably are shifting between location one
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loc1
| 17 |
am in a spacious empty
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lay2
| 26 |
the actual structure i mean and i dont mean like in the neuroplasticity kind of way but like in some deeper fundamental way like brain stem like messing with your brain stem kind of stuff
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tfw
| 22 |
however if i dont really have to i can sink in pretty deep but i think i can reach into layer three of location two
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
layer one in lay one is existential focusing on meaning and purpose with thought streams and highs and lows in energetic variation
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
i would say play to your strengths for the moment write what you have access to that is further than layer one location one
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loc1lay1
| 0 |
theres nothing thats really forcing them to get along with people anymore
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loc4lay3
| 14 |
so you can still have your sense of identity or a sense of what you are be you know the associated with layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
people can have whole sides of their body go limp and be inoperable for periods of time basically anything involving motor function sensory perception type things theres often a sense that like someone has to learn to rehear or you know even retaste or there can be these like just almost like all sensory learning just sort of falling apart and what we think is happening there is that the senses of self that are involved that are falling away at location six are very deep theyre very old they were basically coming together at the same time that sensory learning was happening
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loc5+
| 16 |
location 4 finders say they do not have a sense of agency individuals at locations 2 and 3 can also comment that there is no doer this is related to the earlier discussion of there being no seer or hearer etc
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loc4
| 20 |
peak experience
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tfw
| 22 |
bubble of my being it feels in a way more pleasant
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lay3
| 27 |
and location four
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loc4
| 20 |
the hustle of location 1 layer 4 is underlined by a pervasive peace turning the act of living into a meditation in motion
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
spaciousness never really resonated even in jazz emptiness well just theres silence
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lay2
| 26 |
that type of thing is also typical of location six
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loc5+
| 16 |
some deal with lowlevel processes such as how the senses come together to create experiences and even fundamental body life support breathing heartbeat etc
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loc5+
| 16 |
so they dont have any fluctuation of emotion
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loc4
| 20 |
memory deficits scheduled
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loc4
| 20 |
thoughts are often very brief or half formed
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loc4lay1
| 12 |
and just focus on layer two
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lay2
| 26 |
mental activity still dominates subjective experience
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loc1lay1
| 0 |
in location 1 layer 4 health is holistic encompassing physical mental emotional and spiritual wellbeing
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
from the perspective of layer 4 there is no separation or distinction of any kind
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loc4lay4
| 15 |
sense of divinity
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loc3
| 19 |
so much love
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loc3
| 19 |
as you might imagine the divine what one might associate with the divine but without necessarily it feeling divine in nature people who get that panpsychist version of location three
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loc3
| 19 |
bare stillness
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lay3
| 27 |
space perceiving
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
field of awareness disappears
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lay4
| 28 |
so did it have a sense of senselessness
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lay3
| 27 |
sympathy and positive regard
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loc3lay2
| 9 |
well right now the conversation is happening in the presence the presence is the bigger thing so now im trying to remember like i think its the opposite way around so theres more sort of like i am the whatever that personality is or i sort of believe it more
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lay3
| 27 |
actually made up of that spaciousness
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lay2
| 26 |
love is impersonal
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
vipassana
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nfw
| 21 |
most systems that target location 4 and later tend to hold a belief that the mind layer 1 is something to get away from and as someone deepens it does tend to become less accessible
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loc4lay1
| 12 |
emotion kind of the mind
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lay1
| 25 |
any form of nondual perception
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loc2
| 18 |
human experience
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loc3
| 19 |
decline in any way over time
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loc3
| 19 |
location nine
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loc5+
| 16 |
oh im in location three and i have the meta emotion and ive got the sense of the divine and they might be saying things like you know i am the divine and i might have said well does it feel like a union or you are it oh i am the divine
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loc3
| 19 |
i feel like im perceiving or aware at my most foundational level where my attention is most of the time
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
these watcher lookers
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lay3
| 27 |
we dont know if its promising from a transition standpoint but we certainly know that its promising from a meditation standpoint and its looking increasingly like certain substances are going to match up to certain types of meditation and things like that and so i think theres a distinction between if one is doing it you know from a healing standpoint and a therapeutic environment of some kind or at a micro dose level versus just continuing to sort of you know flood the brain with some sort of breakthrough dose for some kind of consciousness expansion type of thing we we weve just seen so many adverse fundamental wellbeing
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tfw
| 22 |
layer three of location two and still be very much personally in love with someone
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
location four layer four is great if youre already independently wealthy and you can just you know go and be location four without a worry in the world
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loc4lay4
| 15 |
self is that yeah the reflection on experience which itself produces experience and all the qualities of experience which is why you know when you sense into whats beyond layer three it feels like its unknowable or a mystery or without qualities
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lay3
| 27 |
more often youre getting to it in some sort of intentional way with practices and meditation and and whatever else
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
whether old or new
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loc1
| 17 |
experience of senselessness might
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lay2
| 26 |
layer one through
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lay1
| 25 |
five
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loc5+
| 16 |
fullness in the presence
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lay3
| 27 |
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