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the dynamic energy of location 1 layer 4 is balanced by a profound inner calm like the eye of a storm that moves but remains still
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loc1lay4
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so the sensations of energy rising gets really strong like a bliss rising that starts to happen again and it gets really strong
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lay3
| 27 |
subjective experience is centered in a deeper layer and is watching the processes at layer 1 happen rather than being embedded within them resulting in mental activity feeling more impersonal and spontaneous this means that it typically feels more equanimous and spacious than in location 1
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
it sounds a little bit like you might in a way you sound like almost locked in to layer two
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lay2
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trust in how things are arises and the boundary or maybe even sometimes a little over into that experience becomes less salient but sometimes god takes the last step and thats relevant for layer four
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
yes so it not lasting long that isnt necessarily an indication of it not being location four because you could have just had a temporary experience of location four
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loc4
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youre experiencing it
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lay3
| 27 |
true thats a tricky name okay well all that all that comes up to say would be related to that self dropping away which i think because of your experience with helping people shift out of the personal sense of self um and seeing that from the other side um you can probably um sense into in some way uh so theres the personal sense of self which is really constructed conceptually and what youre experiencing is what one could consider an impersonal sense of self in that there is beingness or presence you wouldnt say that theres you know that you dont exist or something um but its not personal in nature its universal in nature it is you know in union with all being with the essence of all being um and when that disappears theres obviously a disappearance of even the quality of being or beingness theres like just existence without that condition because being is then perceived to be a condition that would imply that you know what what existence is subject to a condition of being and it feels just more fundamental or absolute than that but the the self is essentially what remains is that which reflects on experience so im not talking about the mind having an interpretation of experience but simply that which kind of reflects on experience and has therefore got the sense of i exist i am but also produces relationship and so thats this is really
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lay3
| 27 |
for the most part you might be touching on you know an aspect of layer three if theres really a strong sense of aliveness thats not just in the body but thats pervading you know that spaciousness or that space so the space has a quality of being infused with aliveness if thats your experience then that may be touching on you know beginning to have a smear of layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
even in solitude residents of location 1 layer 4 feel a profound connection solitude serving as a bridge to universal oneness
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
much lower energy pretty absent motivation um just kind of its i associate the emotionless with just drifting um but not in a distasteful way but just in a feel very downshifted um unmotivated um low energy just kind of a blob but not unpleasant
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loc4
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sensory experience
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lay3
| 27 |
the sense of safety so theres just a sense like something is going to go wrong at any minute or is going wrong
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loc1
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i have the general general idea of how that works but its exactly its with love
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loc3
| 19 |
primarily centered in layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
and the same with location four would seem less nondual in some
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loc4
| 20 |
its like a its a way it can be a way of pulling your attention almost back into that more foundational layer of of awareness
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lay3
| 27 |
in location three fundamental okayness is almost always in the foreground describing a sense of the divine with a mystical experience throwing me into ecstasy
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loc3lay1
| 8 |
merging
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loc3
| 19 |
i was going to say that the stillness feels like home
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lay2
| 26 |
feels transparent
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lay2
| 26 |
not the nothingness
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lay3
| 27 |
the relentless pace of life in location 1 layer 4 is counterbalanced by moments of timeless being where nothing needs to be done
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
sensory and motor and motor glitches
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loc5+
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mix of personal and impersonal emotion whether people can sense that or not depending on how deep they are
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loc4lay3
| 14 |
how do i do anything
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lay4
| 28 |
its more like spaciousness and yeah when im deep in there its like im this space im just this space and everything is arising in it even me
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lay2
| 26 |
so like a sense of just being more present with the body
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lay2
| 26 |
still some emotionally charged thoughts
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loc1
| 17 |
then you probe for nonduality
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loc2
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seekers
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tfwc
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ive been conscious of energy increasingly for a while but i used to feel like a separate entity and now i just feel like theres a field of energy and i am also energy that is part of that field but i can also pass through the energy its
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lay3
| 27 |
meta emotion of love joy and compassion
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loc3
| 19 |
then really the differentiator for location five is the visual effects
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loc5+
| 16 |
it isnt heavily invested in protecting the narrative sense of self
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loc1lay1
| 0 |
oddness
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lay2
| 26 |
location four layer two when youre really locked into it just feels like some intense dark night of the soul you know maybe the most intense dark night of the soul experience that you could possibly imagine
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loc4lay2
| 13 |
the freedom at location four
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loc4
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they are the universe not a being who is confined to a body to them it makes perfect sense that if this is true they should be able to perceive as the entire universe
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loc5+
| 16 |
so many people who think that theyre either not experiencing fundamental well being
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nfw
| 21 |
layer three is going to add so much more freedom
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lay3
| 27 |
moments and so basically when you come out of the narrative mind you start to fill the mind moments that the narrative mind filled with sensory mind moments and so that can also account for the for the luminosity thing it doesnt necessarily have to be it can be a combination of what you said but when you when you were talking about it i was like oh it could be a mind moment thing just because you know theres more moments of sensory experience in the conscious experience
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loc5+
| 16 |
more comprehensive form of nonduality occurs at this stage
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loc4
| 20 |
deconditioning and reconditioning
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loc1
| 17 |
then because theres enough of the mind of the mind or layer one still active and still kind of youre still associated with it that its kind of like reacting to its own perception
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lay1
| 25 |
like im actually experiencing some of that right now im experiencing some of that anxiety right now i feel it like theres some sort of its like a performance anxiety kind of thing
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lay1
| 25 |
if you compare any of those experiences to location four it will they will see much less nondual than if you in location four
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loc4
| 20 |
so you can absolutely experience that if theres a strong enough trigger it can be very intense and you can experience that without identity and necessarily shifting into it it can just be something thats so strongly triggers conditioning in the system that it sort of absorbs all of your attention and it strongly impacts the system you know whether its your physiology or your cognition all of that its still a biological system somethings triggered it you know its some button thats been pressed in terms of probably safety survival and the systems reacting and that can be very intense but it doesnt necessarily mean that youve shifted into layer one in terms of your identity being
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loc1
| 17 |
yeah its definitely not going to reach your level but that doesnt mean its not impacting your actions and the decision making lower down at layer one
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lay1
| 25 |
i think youve got good access to layer two already and you can be fluid to it if you want to
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lay2
| 26 |
encased in gelatin
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lay3
| 27 |
can imagine that as you are rooting and layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
merging feeling
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loc3
| 19 |
the stillness is simultaneously infused with a profound quality of fullness especially in location 3
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
so in layer two i think sometimes im affected by my sister has also taken this course and her descriptions of that sense of unity
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lay2
| 26 |
fundamental well being feels like resisting
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tfw
| 22 |
temporary peak experiences
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tfw
| 22 |
and layer three when your eyes are closed
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lay3
| 27 |
layer three its like you go there and its just immediately gone
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lay3
| 27 |
does the joy feel personal
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lay3
| 27 |
if perception you know if it doesnt go to all of a sudden theres a looker and a here and theres a you here highly localized and everything else is way out there and its at a distance and its all separate objects
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loc2
| 18 |
fluidity into layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
perceptual abilities that that can show up for some people whether theyre in or not in fundamental wellbeing
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nfw
| 21 |
so its always functioning from a kind of separate perspective if youre paying attention to it
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lay1
| 25 |
in location 1 layer 4 the physical boundaries that confine us seem less rigid inviting a sense of expansion beyond the tangible
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
more pervading
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lay3
| 27 |
changes in goals and motivation and expanded sense of self are more present moment focus and theres a mix of positive and negative thoughts
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
often this sense was in the background
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loc1
| 17 |
joy or love or any emotional components
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loc3
| 19 |
location four youve had a lot of exemplar stuff and tlc stuff and you know
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loc4
| 20 |
single positive meta emotion of love
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loc3
| 19 |
a temporary experience of fundamental wellbeing
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tfw
| 22 |
location three layer three
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
all pervading field or beingness or a type of business or life
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lay3
| 27 |
and everything arises is objects and the subject is this space which is me so it is the
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
theres a quietness theres a vividness to the visual field things look more beautiful theres more appreciation was kind of a question that kind of had for you is it feels like for me beauty is a little bit of a gateway when i notice and im not talking about something that has to be you know prototypically beautiful but just like the pot sitting in the kitchen that suddenly look beautiful and
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lay3
| 27 |
is everything
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lay3
| 27 |
that experience can become one sole experience of any interaction with layer one
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lay1
| 25 |
layer one from a layer one standpoint
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lay1
| 25 |
they are watching
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loc1
| 17 |
emotion isnt gone
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loc3
| 19 |
empty spaciousness
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lay2
| 26 |
theyre actually in fundamental well being
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tfwc
| 23 |
meaningful relationships
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loc2
| 18 |
i can use love conventionally because it makes sense to other people
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loc3
| 19 |
intrinsic to the unfolding
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loc5+
| 16 |
and and to that point so what i mentioned earlier with the teachers ive been working with and really working with one of my buddhist teachers thats the person i was referring to really made a huge difference and also my ability to access nonduality but a big emphasis there was feeling emotions
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lay2
| 26 |
tilted considerably
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loc2
| 18 |
space that youre experiencing as kind of the locus of the seeing
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lay2
| 26 |
layer one i can the thoughts and emotions seems very impersonal
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lay1
| 25 |
joy and deep peace
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lay3
| 27 |
sort of the pinnacle of human experience
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loc3
| 19 |
super joyous and love
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lay3
| 27 |
and when i go deeper into layer two there is also this really deep sense of quietness its like an inner silence and an outer silence
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lay2
| 26 |
they could take any action of their own
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loc4
| 20 |
they just trigger some thoughts that kind of spin around that trigger
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loc4
| 20 |
you know and you do have very ready access to at least layer two
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lay2
| 26 |
all pervading quality
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lay3
| 27 |
i have no idea but i sense sound that doesnt appear to be audible to other people right so its not coming in from here but when im zoomed out im aware that even in these spaces that i move through where think the typical word would be silence theres actually booming sound theres maybe sound isnt even the right word maybe frequencies i dont know so i feel less confined when it comes to processing sound
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loc3
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layer three is sort of the home base for location three
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lay3
| 27 |
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