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nondual space
loc2
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could potentially be a later location
loc5+
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sense of peace
lay3
27
location 1 finders often still have conditioning that relates to approval from others
loc1
17
layer three of location three
loc3lay3
10
location 3
loc3
19
it seems pretty clear that im in location three layer three and its just theres just this strong overriding sense of joy and contentment
loc3lay3
10
arent in fundamental wellbeing
nfw
21
feeling of union or merger with the divine or an allpervasive consciousness in location three may be divine or panpsychic with a sense of perfection and higher wellbeing than location 2
loc3lay1
8
no distinct sense of an eye that is thinking
loc2lay1
4
i think just like two times maybe like exactly as described in the book just the spaciousness emptiness at one point became just fullness and but it only happened to me after like deep deep yoga and meditation like for a long time
lay3
27
being uncomfortable with not knowing
lay1
25
spacious openness
loc2
18
it doesnt matter what it is how do you know this this is very hard for people to detect especially with layer one and so with layer one
lay1
25
agent of whatevers happening in terms of your system what youre doing what youre thinking what youre feeling
lay1
25
highly functioning
loc4lay3
14
fundamentalist beliefs
tfw
22
be having presence
lay3
27
deeper stillness pervading and coexisting with the spaciousness and emptiness
lay2
26
the more im in layer three the more distracted i am
lay3
27
i remember then i can sense the presence as initially as one of the objects that is in and then i have to sort of relax
lay3
27
sort of love and joy and gratitude
loc3
19
sensory motor stuff
nfw
21
is your body located in the fullness and the hows that hows it spatially
lay3
27
habit
loc1
17
finders of feeling this lack of agency are consistent across these finders in location 4 so we must accept that this is how it feels inside them but what produces their actions remains a mystery
loc4
20
its nondual
loc2
18
but that person also had the access still had access to location one
loc1
17
no body nothing just consciousness
lay2
26
location 1 layer 4 is extremely difficult to access from location 1 and generally experienced as a glimpse from other layers
loc1lay4
3
sense of togetherness
lay3
27
or 3
loc3
19
is there a difference in wellbeing when the spacious emptiness takes over versus when its not there
tfw
22
so when that when you feel that you are that thats really near the deepest reaches of layer three
lay3
27
watch the thinking occur but you really are not an active participant in the thinking process
loc4lay1
12
layer two it relates to the sense of the spaciousness being everywhere being everything
lay2
26
in location 1 layer 4 the daily grind is infused with moments of enlightenment turning ordinary tasks into meditative practices
loc1lay4
3
i would have said before i took the class that i have a charmed life
loc2lay3
6
so if i do if i meditate in a certain way i have meditated and it happens and i drop into more of a kind of equalized more still flat perception i would say or just not not perhaps not maybe not flat but its like dropping into a different dimension if you could say that like thats not really its not about the physical that much anymore as much as its a different its like residing in a different field that is more quiet and peaceful and if i sink in in my day to day life i can also go go pretty quickly to that straight away actually but i again i guess i choose not to because again somewhere along the way i think one of my teachers emphasized also feeling the fullness but thats analysis for something else but yeah ive experienced that quite a few times
lay3
27
the only one i can remember is that that those thoughts of that one person it wasnt even something that i would identify as negative
loc4
20
you have a very quiet nothingness and layer two for you and location two
loc2lay2
5
a few even seem to have maps that extend far beyond location 4 but these are typically kept hidden
loc4
20
continual expansion
loc2lay2
5
i actually it was actually this past so i started the 45 days course in january and and it took me until early august actually to where i actually diagnosed myself as okay im actually at that point fundamental wellbeing
tfwc
23
sort of then the fullness can start to come in
lay3
27
along with the spaciousness mhm like in the room in the space
lay2
26
single positive emotion
loc3
19
much greater feeling of richness
lay3
27
its inside me and spreads but its also like its everywhere
lay3
27
presence all pervading kind of thing
lay3
27
everything is just kind of just there
lay2
26
frequently reported significant difficulty
loc4
20
no sense of emotion
loc4
20
i suppose the goals are in location two to do some deconditioning
loc2
18
and it also sounds like youre able to shift your sense of self into layer two with some focus on layer two and really sinking into it
lay2
26
wanted to see if we could use that to maybe get you fluid between location one and location two because were not really worried about you not popping back for anybody thats listening to this dont do that dont do what i just had to do just as like a default normal exercise i have an enormous amount of faith in where ted is anchored and the fact that he would pull back there its possible if you reconstitute the looker that you get stuck back in location one and then thats that and whatever else right i wasnt worried about that with ted for those of you listening and so you know you wont hear me do that very often this is one of those rare times when i felt like it would be okay to do it yeah so in this case i think what youre experiencing are sort of those remaining remnants down at layer one and location two
loc2lay1
4
layer two thing
lay2
26
increasing flatness of perception
loc4
20
freedom from any decision making
loc4
20
layer 3 is the default layer of location 3 and is experienced as the divine or panpsychist presence or as divine love itself in and as everything
loc3lay3
10
there is nothing arising from or within it
loc3lay4
11
alive
lay3
27
if youve just got some patterns that unwind as a function of deconditioning and what returns whether there is a joy some sort of intense joy you know underneath all of that or whatnot
loc3
19
even if internally the motivation isnt as strong as it was previously
loc1
17
deepening away from layer 1 may remove it from ones subjective awareness but that does not mean it stops operating this essentially leaves the conditioned psychological tendencies that reside at layer 1 to function unsupervised which may not lead to optimal life outcomes
loc2lay2
5
youre identifying more youre identifying at layer two essentially which is the classic description spaciousness emptiness mystery as well
loc2lay2
5
primarily involves the mind
lay1
25
even the visual field itself kind of like narrows so theres like this huge feeling of relaxation and freeness that i feel in what im calling layer three
lay3
27
it feels like space is the foundation or the base or the transparency
lay2
26
the fieldlike presence of layer 3 feels powerful and penetrating and being deep in layer 3 can seem to have a noticeable influence on other people
loc3lay3
10
i think he had a lot of those tendencies even remaining in fundamental wellbeing and one thing that hes learned is that you know using certain supplements and stuff to really sort of increase my i mean any time theres some new thing that might increase mitochondria energy more you know than what hes using or something like that man he is on it and he just raves about the difference that that makes in the system the same with you know his interest a lot of his interest in things like the light hats and stuff like that
tfw
22
just everything and this happened to me like every time im sinking like deep
lay2
26
increasing aliveness and power
loc1
17
and so you know and even like you know its not often that someone uses the word felt like hell right being constantly frustrated upset at everything you know as a result of the intensity of you know trying to reprogram your system decondition your system you know all of that and so clearly youve got a lot of stuff down there at layer one that that wants to anchor you there
lay1
25
layer 4 will initially be sensed as an even deeper stillness or silence than that of layer 3 this deepest stillness brings with it a loss of dimensionality and seems flat or stark when compared to the richness of layer 3
loc2lay4
7
its there and location to layer three and then the personal side drops off and location three and then emotion itself drops off and location four and thats whats providing that richness you know of that experience and so its although there can still be you know a sense of presence found in the experience and stuff like that its like an alien type of presence compared to you know what someone experienced up to that and its going to you know youre typically speaking youre going to lose access to it in a matter of weeks and root more into just layer four and location four
loc4lay4
15
it just sounds like its in the direction of fundamental well being type of stuff to me
tfw
22
so spending a lot of time trying to thinking that youre going to decondition something like that while youre in layer one and that thats going to be like the key to moving you forward in fundamental wellbeing is more or less just a really good way to waste a lot of time
tfw
22
ive still probably because of you know heavy conditioning with that ive prioritized you know as of the past couple of years so i have conditioned in addition to this you know a lot of fear based layer early layer one
loc2lay1
4
then next sort of felt as a fullness
lay3
27
layer three presence
lay3
27
kind of empty and full and clear
lay2
26
merging is
loc3
19
nondual frame of experience
loc2
18
consciousness
lay2
26
and so were going to start on the 29th going into layer two
lay2
26
personal love
loc3
19
id have to be quiet still and not doing anything and take some time to just bring my attention to it you know and it might take at least ten 15 minutes just sitting still just to get that get more to drop more into that sense that this is me
lay3
27
that sounds great okay so based on what i am hearing i would say that you absolutely have an experience of location to layer three cool im trying or not that also now whether or not you are and you know that already all right otherwise you would have had to skip this interview to be digging a trench somewhere to run some water lines you know because or youll never be running water lines without paying a few thousand dollars to get the thing fixed and then it breaks down two minutes later and costs you another couple thousand dollars or whatever right right um and so theres a but that doesnt preclude the possibility that some that you have fluidity over to you know location three layer three
loc3lay3
10
depending upon their individual capability in this area finders may be able to choose to observe the orienting response feel the physiological sensation or first inklings of thought that they know will soon bring anger and consciously note it
loc1
17
fullness to it and feeling a presence
lay3
27
we want to think about it that i think part of it is always with someone that we have to you know really come to grips with that really give our systems permission for that really communicate that were okay with that youve spent a long time now telling your system this is what i want experience wise something like this it doesnt have to be exactly like this im open to some variation but you know within these boundaries right and now youre more or less saying something very different than that to go to location four layer four and location three
loc3lay4
11
its more of an active a location three is more of an active merging of me with this great greatness rather than the nondual of its all this right is that im understanding correctly
loc3
19
layer one is happening but its happening within the confines of layer two say or layer three and layer one or layer three and layer two or whatever
lay1
25
its more like 21 so mostly layer one as i am still very much in the world and not so out there doing stuff
loc2lay1
4
sort of really flat desert
loc4
20
energy that infused everything
loc4
20
this freedom entails a loss of perceptual dimensionalitydeepening into layer 4 involves stripping away or getting beneath the processes that filter perception until 54 all that remains is increasingly raw sense data
loc4lay4
15
whereas layer three can be a lot easier to live life from so if that experience was something you loved its cool
lay3
27
and then same for location three in some ways so location three can be really powerful for healing things because you cant really experience negative emotion so just bringing you know thats essentially the whole thing with leicesters love it just really encodes the memories to be an experience thats associated with the pardon
loc3
19