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i was still in location four
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loc4
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so the existence of everything is more fundamental than any experience of it
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tfw
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freedom the piece mainly that its so peaceful
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loc4
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lets talk a little bit about what the seeking of truth might mean in the context of what our research has uncovered from a fundamental wellbeing standpoint
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tfw
| 22 |
i feel like normal
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lay1
| 25 |
location one is sort of ideal you know for your life right now
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loc1
| 17 |
all pervading
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lay3
| 27 |
sense of being in union with life and everything
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loc3
| 19 |
location three can in terms of normally its just managing finances and that type of thing that we caution people around because they can be just excessive you know generosity
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loc3
| 19 |
the rest of their memory is usually fine
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loc4
| 20 |
presence which some love
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lay3
| 27 |
very persistent stubborn sense
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loc1
| 17 |
the joy is always there and you actually just bring your attention to it
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lay3
| 27 |
what falls away in location three on the emotion front is personal emotion so all that remains is really that meta emotion so you could even just be constantly paying attention to that on there in terms of the emotional experience that you have and kind of turn your attention away from any personal emotion that arises and just let it get kind of eclipsed by the meta emotion of love joy and compassion that you already have access to its probably something you can notice in any moment if you turn your attention to it so thats something you could do to bias your system in the direction of location three
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loc3
| 19 |
another thing with a major advertising agency
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loc2
| 18 |
self referential
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loc1
| 17 |
as far as you can
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tfw
| 22 |
no emotions
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loc4
| 20 |
the decision to move into these later locations is not to be made lightly
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loc5+
| 16 |
location one layer two right now because im feeling that im seeing from the body um but at the same time its like completely different from before because im like the peace and the stillness
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loc1lay2
| 1 |
socially acceptable thing to do
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loc2
| 18 |
oh it was the vipassana retreat
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tfwp
| 24 |
location three or possibly layer three
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
the peace is of a different order than that of any other layer because it is not dependent on any positionality such as i am awareness or i am
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loc4lay4
| 15 |
individualized self
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
the feelings of union with divinity or an allpervasive consciousness also disappear
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loc4lay3
| 14 |
what might be thought of as a beingness type of beingness
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lay2
| 26 |
its very possible that youve had some glimpses of that so as you you know work with layer three and sinking in in that direction you might have memories come up like that
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lay3
| 27 |
there is no longer any sense of an essence pervading everything like in layer 3
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loc3lay4
| 11 |
youre the presence as the identity has a strong connection to layer one where youd be writing from and see what your voice looks like there
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lay1
| 25 |
indwelling of the divine
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loc3
| 19 |
reality was perceived as
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loc4
| 20 |
self participants reported the absence of
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loc2
| 18 |
location 4 finders either remain alone or learn how to respond appropriately so that their partner feels loved
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loc4
| 20 |
behavior is that just loving everybody
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loc3
| 19 |
thats an exact example of what lester himself did to get himself into location three
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loc3
| 19 |
union with that life
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
spaciousness beingness
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lay2
| 26 |
motivation disappeared
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loc4
| 20 |
still have emotions
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loc3
| 19 |
everything is showing up sort of out there in a way
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lay3
| 27 |
dont notice the stillness and the spaciousness anymore
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lay2
| 26 |
and then you know you describe the location five visual effects very very typical experience of that the sensory glitches you describe in terms of passing out and having the arms get paralyzed
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loc5+
| 16 |
i have a blip of that kind of like radiating love and its usually maybe in nature or to a child or maybe like a cat does a really ridiculously adorable thing but it is its such a more narrow experience
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
when combined with the deep sense of truth that typically accompanies location 3
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loc3
| 19 |
mindful
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lay1
| 25 |
and also just um like kind of steering it away from the location for qualities of like samples
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loc4
| 20 |
potentially with some digging path of freedom
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loc5+
| 16 |
i started noticing you know the the feelings of the feelings of in some of the stuff which ive talked about today but combination of piece and things are going to be okay
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tfwc
| 23 |
increase in freedom
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loc4
| 20 |
melting completely physically
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loc4lay3
| 14 |
they were clearly layer three qualities in addition like a feeling or like a rich experience and the fullness of aliveness
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lay3
| 27 |
when that timer goes off and youre taking time to sink into fundamental well being
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tfwc
| 23 |
if you were in location three and the conditioning with your daughter came up probably it would just you know dissolve almost immediately or much more rapidly because its such a powerful experience that is getting merged with the conditioning and sort of dissolves or recontextualizes it
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loc3
| 19 |
you know almost made me pee my pants when it first happened to me in india 25 years ago it was like it wasnt just there was this amazing fullness it was like i was i was sitting next to the ganges river late at night with this huge rapids right next to me and suddenly i was the rock that i was leaning on and then i was the rapids and then i was the entire ganges and then i was the entire planet and then it just kept going to way beyond what my mind could kind of keep up so that was the flavor of my of my initial awakening
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
more alive
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lay3
| 27 |
its kind of experienced as the joys for everything or all of everything
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lay3
| 27 |
location 1 individuals are on the earliest portion of the continuum
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loc1
| 17 |
you know the mind and it operating in the mind is essentially operating from the perspective of there being a body you know or a system that is individualized that needs to function in an individualized way to operate in the world
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lay1
| 25 |
there is a sense that this is reality itself and can never be gained or lost but is the condition of everything that is or could be presumably because all fundamental human fear originates from the fear of death this perception brings an incomparable sense of freedom and peace
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loc4lay4
| 15 |
my goal is to to get to to be fluent between layer two or location two
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
love compassion you know joy those were such a live motions
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lay3
| 27 |
who have moved back and forth between locations often observe that each location brings a distinct flavor of truth
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loc3
| 19 |
which may be useful as an access point in your during your day because you describe the stillness as pervading everything so and having a quality of sort of aliveness and that type of thing where youre describing the presence as well so thats all kind of heading in the direction of layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
optimize for the environment youre in fundamental well being
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tfw
| 22 |
feel love and joy compassion whether that feels divine or just impersonal
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loc3
| 19 |
individualized self had vanished
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loc2
| 18 |
so that does sound like you know youre able to touch upon some aspects of layer three that begin to infuse the spaciousness of layer two having a very deep experience of layer two where you arent even getting that sense of a container like its already feeling more like a field
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lay3
| 27 |
mind feels clearer
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loc2lay1
| 4 |
in location 1 layer 4 the warmth of human connection is enriched by a deeper sense of oneness with all beings
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loc1lay4
| 3 |
it is essentially the home layer of locations 4 and later and experiences of it in earlier locations tend to be partial and temporary
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loc2lay4
| 7 |
so while the period you know the punctuated periods where theres like you know blooming and pruning happening in the brain if you remember that from your psychology you know training days right where you have sort of those periods of explosive growth of connections and whatnot in the brain and then a pruning back to whats going to be you know sort of the constrained normal after that and just all of those different developmental phases
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tfw
| 22 |
location 4 lost
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loc4
| 20 |
nonduality is sounds like description of nonduality where its all sort of one field of experience and youre a part of it
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loc2
| 18 |
but theres a sense of theres a sense of me here
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loc2
| 18 |
no sense of reality imposing of to you
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lay4
| 28 |
location four definitely adds a whole new perspective and can decondition a lot especially if one deepens there but yeah save that for when you feel the timing is good
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loc4
| 20 |
dont have to expect to have like some kind of great observational or analytical type of capacity
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lay4
| 28 |
sense of the divine
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loc3
| 19 |
when i do think in i spend more time focusing on the fact that there is space and that something is further away rather than focusing on the space
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lay2
| 26 |
its the its really the pervasive sense of presence and that and that fullness penetrating things and whatnot that were that were primarily looking for is the hallmarks more of a layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
layer two potentially
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lay2
| 26 |
charmed life maybe sounded interesting obviously those would all involve coming back from where youre headed
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
layer three
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lay3
| 27 |
location two layer three
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loc2lay3
| 6 |
sense of presence
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lay3
| 27 |
im that layer three some aspect of the layer three type experiences
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lay3
| 27 |
you can get out of it and then you can move on to to the location three stuff and if you feel you know youre done with it you know after a few days or youve got enough access to it that if conditioning arises you can you know sink into it and use it to whatever extent you want to then you know move on whenever you want to
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loc3
| 19 |
the qualities of spaciousness emptiness
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lay2
| 26 |
i didnt really experience it much at all it did talk a lot last year and i had no idea what it was like and in that course we experienced that and it was really nice
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lay2
| 26 |
obviously more union with god is better within a worldview that is seeking it so it is not surprising that they would value this location more highly than earlier or later ones
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loc3
| 19 |
experiencing all of that is nothingness
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lay2
| 26 |
but it sounds to me like youre at least in experiencing layer two with the classic descriptors of spaciousness and emptiness and that kind of thing
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loc2lay2
| 5 |
it was a distinct shift and processing that can recall and before the accident you know ive never felt like i belonged here ive never really felt human but dont know why i dont feel human theres theres no hard data to tell me that thats true or again that might be a psychotic episode i have no idea but i do remember right before the accident before the actual moment of physical impact something lifted shifted changed so dramatically that i realize that up until that point had been using the body in a very different way
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loc4
| 20 |
meditators
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loc2
| 18 |
think the same could be true for you like you literally transitioned to location three in the finals course probably your system would have has no actual limitation in being in location three layer three
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loc3lay3
| 10 |
leaning towards being location three
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loc3
| 19 |
and so now we would say about location two is and we probably would have been more nuanced even back then
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loc2
| 18 |
but that is not to say that finders at this location do not feel a sense of unity
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loc4
| 20 |
im not thats interesting ah okay now that said personal actually its simply more a reaction rather than the person its simply yeah im having whatever
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loc2
| 18 |
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