My point was that no-one knows what the French and German governments are upto in secret, because it is still secret.  It hasn&#x27;t been leaked.  The only reason the US and the UK are getting so much press is because their programs have.<p>The UK&#x27;s surveillance program was even ruled illegal once it was found out what they were doing.  So what if a lot of the German public are against surveillance - so are a lot of Brits - they just don&#x27;t know what their government is doing in secret.<p>I&#x27;d bet everything I own the French and Germans and every other major country are doing the exact same stuff.