&gt; Who are they, besides Joe? Can you at least provide their names?<p>One of them is here on HN: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=rvirding" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;user?id=rvirding</a>