So I argued we&#x27;d start the conversation in 10 years and that it&#x27;d take at least another decade.  I that is 20 years until we&#x27;d see the first ban against human drivers in metro areas.<p>To be there I do think we need the first generation of fully automated cars available to the general public in 5 years or less, which I think we&#x27;re actually close to or we wouldn&#x27;t be having this very discussion...