Vanderbilt and Louie are the real deal, but what they do is much closer to hard CMT. They have students who are real superstars.<p>As an aside, Vanderbilt was at the same conference. He told me how the same trend chasing and flight to chemistry and materials science departments had taken place among DFT people with high-Tc in the eighties that was taking place with topological materials now, and that this was a symptom of &quot;(long-time sociological) problems I can&#x27;t fix&quot;