But that&#x27;s exactly my point!<p>When it&#x27;s not something you want, it&#x27;s to &quot;Placate people&quot;. But if it was something you wanted, i&#x27;m sure it would be a welcome feature!<p>And it&#x27;s not that complicated, just different.<p>Want a &quot;traditional&quot; list of interfaces? `ip addr`<p>Want to list running interfaces? `ip link ls up`<p>Want to set a device up&#x2F;down? `ip link set dev {DEVICE} {up|down}`<p>Quick question! How do you set the MTU length in a legacy REHL system? Because with ip it&#x27;s just `ip link set mtu 9000 dev eth0`!<p>Yeah, its new and will require some learning, but it&#x27;s not inherently bad...<p>And talking about seasoned kernel devs, name one time that there wasn&#x27;t a minority of kernel devs bitching about a new feature! Every change is going to make some people worse off.