&gt;<i>In the absence of growth the only way for an individual to get more resources is to take it from someone else.</i><p>Part of my point is that there are more than enough resources, what&#x27;s needed is better distribution. Plus some scaling down the over-consumption of crap.<p>Besides this &quot;taking it from someone else&quot; is already the case with the growth model, were not only a tiny fraction of the population has a huge percentage of the world&#x27;s wealth (debt aside, I know those arguments too), but people can be making $1000 Armani suits for 12 hours a day in the third world just to have the same, or even worse, quality of life as they did before their country was forced into globalization.<p>For centuries the growth depended on plundering the third world, as colonialists, neo-colonialists, slave owners, democrary-bringers etc, plus heavy internal forcing of people (e.g. the rural population) to become factory workers.<p>Now we&#x27;ve come to the point technologically that we don&#x27;t need all those people anyway -- not even the service industry which we invented as a stop gap to have people employed.