I think the friction is because of the different views of each camp about what is important for members of the other camps to do! Like, I would put myself in c &amp; d but I think that D people often ignore important things like noise and robustness to starting conditions and frankly run their bloody deep network 100000 times and choose the best outcome for their paper. It&#x27;s really striking when someone like Lake and Tenenbaum produce a paper where they stick big sharp pins in any mithering critique that&#x27;s anyone would have. Hats off and all that! But it&#x27;s striking and it shouldn&#x27;t be, it should be the standard.