on the other hand iDefence itself has a conspiratable spooky background of CIA/DoD<p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/app8q/_/c0issy7" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/app8q/_/c0issy7</a><p>The more you poke into it the more it looks like a full scale war