... and don't forget the greed. Looked at where stuff is made recently? I see a ton of stuff around me that comes directly from China. We like to buy stuff cheap from China, and we like to ignore the fact that China is not a free society. If we cared we would vote with our wallets, but we don't care. And in my opinion so don't a lot of Chinese (I didn't say all, or even most, but a lot) as long as it brings in the cash and the BMWs.