I started with Ruby, and Python, so I like open and clear reading/writing, but even Ruby/Python tends to lay it on thick. It's like the developers think they have to add all this syntax just to be popular.<p><pre><code>  define fib_seq with (x,y)
    ..
  end
</code></pre>
I guess what I really want is a programming language that's really fucking easy to teach people.<p>C/C++ and Java are absolutely not it.