You're right, and Daniel Tenner is right. That happens sometimes.<p>Yes, Hacker News is not a great market to extract money from. Yes, most of the people here don't want to pay for software.<p>But Wakemate did screw this up. Simple example: there's some form I'm supposed to go fill out now. What? If I don't, where's my $5 going?<p>I think Max Klein's gone a bit over the edge on this one (I understand the perception that buying v1 is going to get you v2, I totally believe Wakemate played into it, and I don't care --- people should get used to paying for added value).<p>But I think Max Klein's point about getting this stuff straightened out on Hacker News before straightening it out with the broader market is <i>very well taken</i>. Worse favors have been done to companies than to give them a Model Irrational Customer to practice on.<p>I'd like to know what happened to my pre-order, Wakemates.