You are among the rare people which are willing to learn, again and again. You'd be surprised how much people (outside HN :-) just won't learn. They are Blub programmers. They will be stuck with whatever Blub language you give to them, even C++. I'm glad you didn't, because I'm not sure I wouldn't.<p>EDIT: Maybe there no such thing as a Blub language (right tool for the job etc). However, Blub <i>programmers</i> do exist: half of my co-workers and maybe even myself (to some extent).