I'm not "arguing for the sake of arguing." I'm trying to explain my point to you, and I'm doing so in a polite manner, which is exactly what I'd expect from you.<p>The weaknesses in SHA-1 make it a poor cryptographic hash, which make it a poor pseudorandom function, which has a significant potential to make it a poor password hash.<p>My point, for the second time, is that you're not "effed" if you use salted hashes.<p>I'm not trying to "prove" anything. I'm stating my opinion on the matter. This isn't a pissing contest, rather, a forum for discussion.