My point is simply that you can't generalize and say MS sucks at web because they've had no success at search - they have multiple platforms that are or are close to market leaders, just not search.<p>Can you imagine anyone writing about how Google should just admit they suck at web because they (also) only have a few actually-significant properties on the web?<p>There's 3 MS and 5 Google properties on this page of the top 20 web properties according to Alexa - 
<a href="http://www.alexa.com/topsites" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/topsites</a><p>Neither sucks at web as a whole.  But MS sucks at trying to dislodge Google from search and Google sucks at being anything <i>but</i> search (and YouTube, which was already massively successful when they bought it).