- Just because that they can, doesn&#x27;t mean that they would.<p>- The list lists <i>Ukrainian</i> aircraft lost during the conflict, not the separatist&#x2F;Russian aircraft.<p>- Yes, separatist-held territory is Ukraine territory, and separatists are (at times) Ukrainian citizens, although Ukraine currently cannot guarantee the safety of its, or other citizens in the separatist-held territory.<p>- As to the last point, who knows. Who produced what, and sold where in the post-Soviet world is a lot harder to debunk than the publicly exposed news.<p>Russia never took on, and still does not take on its moral obligation to proactively control its border with the conflict zone. Similarly, Ukraine didn&#x27;t take appropriate action to ban flights over the conflict zone. Ukraine did take action - when will Russia? Both are &quot;guilty&quot; in the case of MH17, due to their inaction.<p>&quot;There are risks and costs to action. But they are far less than the long range risks of comfortable inaction.&quot; - John F. Kennedy.