&gt; You mean, the total homicides (the violent crime ones) are about half the rate of motor vehicle deaths. Actually closer to a third.<p>Whoops yes I accidentally flipped it around incorrectly weakening my own argument :p<p>&gt; It&#x27;s about 10-15k homicides v 40-50k car crash deaths per annum in the past decade.<p>I&#x27;d still say it&#x27;s closer to double though, there haven&#x27;t been as few as 10k murders since 1965, and as the population was much smaller then (about a third smaller) the rate of homicide per capita wasn&#x27;t much different from the average of the past decade. Meanwhile car deaths haven&#x27;t been 50k since 1980 so 10-15k and 40-50k would include numbers going back 3 to 5 decades.<p>For 2005-2015 though the motor vehicle deaths average about 11 per 100k[0], for murder it&#x27;s about 5 per 100k.[1]<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.disastercenter.com&#x2F;crime&#x2F;uscrime.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.disastercenter.com&#x2F;crime&#x2F;uscrime.htm</a> (top absolute values, bottom per capita values)<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_i...</a> (doesn&#x27;t include 2014 and 2015 but they&#x27;re estimated at roughly the 2013 numbers. Notice the substantial dip right around the recession, I wonder how much of the drop can be explained by fewer miles driven rather than improved safety).