&gt;By discussing these issues and being open-minded, pragmatic, and rational, and by evaluating them on a cost&#x2F;benefit basis.<p>And that&#x27;s exactly what I&#x27;m doing.  It sounds like you just want to discount all of the arguments of one side for being &#x27;ideological&#x27;. That&#x27;s a specious argument. Freedom is as much a good as environmental cleanliness and the lack of congestion. Why should it be excluded from your cost&#x2F;benefit analysis?