Same here. About twenty years. Started programming with emacs and cvs on DEC Ultrix machines. Learned UNIX the hard way. Good old Dave sitting in the corner, hacking away on imake, and when asked about something answered &quot;Try man something. Don&#x27;t know what man is? Try man man&quot;.<p>Been on and off with emacs, but never really got into elisp. Only after having to learn Scheme&#x2F;Racket for a Fluxus project, I read elisp with different eyes now. Really whish I got into Lisp earlier.