you&#x27;re speaking from your experience which is fine and YMMV, but it&#x27;s useful to <i>listen</i> to hers about how she feels. Discounting others&#x27; experiences doesn&#x27;t help. She&#x27;s talking about <i>feeling</i> excluded from tech as a woman of color because tech has made a priority to include more women speakers, but has completely ignored that there are women of color who are ignored. The industry thinking that they&#x27;re&quot;solving&quot; diversity by increasing women, but ignoring women of color are only solving part of the problem. The main point I&#x27;m making is inclusion matters, in the workforce and at conferences. And the benefit of having people of color speaking is being exposed to experiences and P.O.V.s from people of color. There are studies that show that people of color or from various backgrounds are better problem solvers because of adversity they&#x27;ve had.<p>Also, using anecdotal evidence from your circle of friends who have had positive experiences is dismissive of others who haven&#x27;t.