&gt;the first Antonovs were downed using ATA missiles (read: fighter planes),<p>no, rebels had never had such capability, i.e. planes and Russia didn&#x27;t ventured the planes in.<p>&gt;although I can&#x27;t read them<p>There are also some tweets in English down on the twitter page i linked. Also you can Google translate it. The capture of the BUK systems was well communicated on both sides - in Russian and Ukrainian news at the time, before the MH-17. There was also another Ukrainian BUK battery captured in Luhansk, though there weren&#x27;t much traces of it after that.<p>This is BBC <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-europe-28299334" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-europe-28299334</a> on the second AN-26. I remember how in those days we were amuzed at the stupid propagandist version put forward by Ukraine that it was a SAM from Russian territory - it would have needed at least a C-300&#x2F;400 missile which would be recorded by all the NATO radars&#x2F;satellites.