&gt; Are you replying to me?<p>Sorry, yes HN apparently has a limit to nesting of replies, so I cannot reply directly. I&#x27;m sure that replying a level up is bad etiquette, so this is the last time I will do it.<p>I will leave it at this. My position is that there is no sound  philosophical basis for positive rights (the claim that one person is entitled to receive something that must be produced by another person). On other words, my rights are only to be left alone to satisfy my desired ends by my chosen means without force or coercion by another party.<p>This speaks nothing of what &quot;society&quot; or one&#x27;s fellow man &quot;ought&quot; to do. Rights to no involve &quot;ought.&quot;