Not the OP, but I&#x27;m in a phd program right now and can see the light at the end of the tunnel. My experience has been great, my advisor has given me a lot of freedom to do the things I&#x27;m interested in. He has also taught me a lot ranging from technical stuff to big picture research issues to career advice. Obviously, our relationship has seen ups and downs, but show me a 4+ year relationship without ups and downs.<p>I hear about people with dysfunctional phd experiences and one of my friends is experiencing one right now. To be honest, the students are to blame at least partly for this. IMO the people who get most exploited are those who are most desperate for a phd. Like someone said in the reply to the linked comment, you shouldn&#x27;t tolerate abuse, you need to do your research before you sign on the dotted line and you should be prepared to walk away if things do go south.<p>Sure, there are jerks in academia, but I&#x27;ve worked for a few different tech companies and there are plenty of jerks there too. We never think twice about getting out of a shitty job situation, but somehow people don&#x27;t do the same in a phd program.<p>I also don&#x27;t know what people are talking when they mention 80 hour workweeks. I do something like 40-60 a week. Some weeks are closer to 30 than 40, and the 60 hour weeks are rare. The people who do 80 hour weeks don&#x27;t seem to know when to stop working, and they don&#x27;t seem to be able to accept that there are others who are way smarter than them and working harder isn&#x27;t going to make up for that. I realized very quickly in my phd that there were people here who were in a different league from me in terms of ability. If I&#x27;d tried to compete with them, I would have lost both the rat race and my peace of mind, so I didn&#x27;t. What I do know is that my work is interesting and important and clearly people appreciate it, I&#x27;m satisfied with that. I&#x27;m sure I could be winning more awards and publishing 4 papers a year instead of 2 if I worked 20 hours more every week, but really, I don&#x27;t want to do that.