We do not demand you get a jury verdict before using lethal force on someone threatening lethal force, there&#x27;s no &quot;alleged&quot; from my viewpoint if someone is pointing a gun at me.<p>Which, I should point out, isn&#x27;t punishment.  Which 15155 never said we could do, he only talked about what you can do in felonious acts, defend yourself, and about a value system that puts criminals above the law-abiding.