We kind of agree, but from a different angle. I see a product in its entirety: Technology + Community. The latter should extend beyond the technology-affine end user. As you mentioned, Oracle was always better at that.<p>I wasn&#x27;t alive back then, I only know from listening to the stories. But I&#x27;d say that most Oracle customers are rather happy being Oracle customers, while only a select &quot;elite&quot; regrets what happened back then.