&gt; [Nikhil]: Or educate men in society that these things are wrong.<p>&gt; [Winston]: You really think the problem is that men don&#x27;t know the raping is wrong?<p>&gt; [ChongLi]: Yes, actually.<p>&gt; [OldManJay]: Are you familiar with criminals who take responsibility for their actions? I&#x27;ve never heard of such a thing, so your implied conclusion seems idealistic<p>Nikhil and ChongLi are doing nothing but regurgitate the faulty feminist narrative that they have fondly taken on to be common sense.<p>Both American and Indian societies already teach its members that rape, murder, theft and other crimes are &quot;wrong&quot;. This is called social conditioning, and is put into effect from childhood onwards. Social conditioning does not of course necessarily stop the criminals like Elliot Rodger (murder) and Mukesh Singh (rape) from conducting their crimes.<p>The narrative of &quot;Teach men not to rape,&quot; that these people ignorantly spit out, is based on the faulty premise that the said men have not been taught not to rape (and kill, maim, and so forth).<p>&gt; [ChongLi]: In an interview from jail[0], one of the men who participated in the 2012 gang rape and murder of Jyoti Singh blamed the victim for the attack[1]! [0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;worldnews&#x2F;asia&#x2F;india&#x2F;1144346.." rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telegraph.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;worldnews&#x2F;asia&#x2F;india&#x2F;1144346...</a>. [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2012_Delhi_gang_rape#Incident" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2012_Delhi_gang_rape#Incident</a><p>With a little intelligence and sensitivity, it is not difficult to prober further into the underlying motivation of these criminals, and without understanding the underlying motivations you cannot effect change. Here&#x27;s a clue: Mukesh Singh (one of the perpetrator of the Delhi gang rape event) had this to say in that interview: <i>&quot;A decent girl won’t roam around at nine o’clock at night … Housework and housekeeping is for girls, not roaming in discos and bars at night doing indecent things, wearing indecent clothes.&quot;</i>.