&gt;Revenge is not supposed to be the basis of any modern justice system, we don&#x27;t lock people up to make them suffer, we do in order to change them, to make them not commit crimes again, to make them honor the rules of the society they live in.<p>That&#x27;s patently untrue. The very notion of justice is built upon revenge. To say modern justice systems aren&#x27;t based on it is to say they float in the air, founded upon nothing.<p>&gt;If you really believe this to be true, you have to conclude that it is irresponsible for any country not to try to obtain nuclear weapons.<p>Well, yes, it is eminently sensible in many situations to obtain nuclear weapons for your country. That doesn&#x27;t mean I have to support them doing so, as it is not necessarily in MY interest for them to do so, even if it is in their own interest.<p>&gt; You are suggesting that humans are egoistic greedy assholes always wanting to just conquer the entire world, to grab all the resources and the only thing that prevents them from doing this are the expected costs and causalities of the conflicts.<p>Our domination of the planet suggests this is the case.<p>&gt;It is a bit like suggesting that wearing sexy cloths is a bad thing because it provokes getting raped.<p>No, it&#x27;s not.<p>&gt;So if a dictator forcefully acquires the power in a country, the people are guilty?<p>A dictator cannot gain power without the support of a large segment of the population.<p>&gt; It is immoral if they just try to survive instead of resisting and risking getting killed?<p>Yes. It is immoral not to resist evil.<p>&gt;Is a mother guilty in case her child, despite her best effort, becomes a murderer?<p>What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?