&gt;most Wikipedia source nazis seem to insist on a major mainstream publication like the NYT<p>That is another basic wikipedia policy. Some sources are more reliable than others. Most people would agree that NYT is more reliable than the Drumheller Mail.<p>&gt;It&#x27;s like insisting there is no astroturfing on HN, reddit, or Facebook<p>I didn&#x27;t say it doesn&#x27;t happen. I&#x27;m saying it&#x27;s not a significant issue, because there are more editors than PR people on each page. Can you give a <i>single</i> instance of this being a problem on a current wikipedia page? I&#x27;ve already asked DanBC for specific instances of problems, and he hasn&#x27;t managed to come up with anything either.<p>There are lots of people complaining about wikipedia, but very few if any instances of actual problems.