&gt; I don&#x27;t think reddit&#x27;s problem is harassment, I think it&#x27;s groupthink, extremely low quality&#x2F;uninformed discourse, and brigading.<p>HN isn&#x27;t immune to these. It suffers just as badly as Reddit. It&#x27;s just that the cultures are so different. HN is elitist and thinks technology will improve our lives, Reddit is racist and thinks pictures of cute kittens and in-jokes will improve our lives. Both are filled with ignoramuses who get upvoted to the top of a page for catering to that website&#x27;s niche the most (HN = most elitist comment, Reddit = funniest comment). Anyone else barely sees the light of day, and get downvoted to smithereens. As long as there&#x27;s an upvote button, I don&#x27;t think any website can truly solve this. HN tried to fix it by using more algorithms on top of upvotes, but it just doesn&#x27;t work.