I&#x27;m Australian too, you know. But my politics often lead to me being mistaken for an American Libertarian. Flattering, I guess :)<p>You&#x27;re conflating several issues here though. Kleck was simply looking at one scenario: attempted rape by a stranger, when the victim had a firearm and used it. The stats on that are very, very firmly supportive of the idea that handguns are a good defence.<p>I&#x27;m actually agreeing with you on the other social costs of an armed society, mind you. I don&#x27;t think you read my post very clearly, and attributed to me a bunch of common positions (for Americans) that I don&#x27;t actually hold.