The defense I kept telling Schneier et al to post, but haven&#x27;t seen, is how susceptible our dirty Congress is to blackmail. Probably have to be a closed session to get the honesty there. We can present it less like they&#x27;re scumbags and more like &quot;we know how the world works so let&#x27;s be real about risk to you and therefore rest of us.&quot; I heavily pushed on different blogs extrapolating the Hoover precedent to NSA-level capabilities.<p>I think it&#x27;s the best route as it&#x27;s in their self interests. I think getting the business and international elites on board might be helpful as well. Unfortunately, they often push for surveillance or police states since they&#x27;re good for business at various levels. However, even a minority push might hold back the worst legislation while letting whatever passes contain a loophole big enough for them and maybe some of us. Plus, they have the money to fund key solutions in the stack.<p>So, those are two ideas I&#x27;ve pushed in the various debates.