&gt; Also continuing to claim that in general &quot;thieves win&quot; is as absurd as claiming they &quot;win&quot; under the current laws and system.<p>I have a far more nuanced argument than that.<p>Thieves win in your system more than they do in the status quo, because you somehow think that insurance companies &#x2F; bouncers are sufficient to deter thefts.<p>A public police force is needed to deter thefts on a fair basis.