&gt; The irony is that right now, I can tell the current crop of &quot;ninja&quot; web-developers (who rightfully rejected ASP.Net and its ilk) are starting more and more to look like this generation&#x27;s VB6 programmers: Unambitious. Untalented. Unprincipled. Web-standards? Whatever works, and this works on my machine.<p>Anything which is commoditized will see a dip in quality. Including programmers for popular languages&#x2F;frameworks&#x2F;etc.<p>There were a lot of very talented VB6, ASP Classic, and similar programmers. There was also a lot of corporate programmers who didn&#x27;t care and just did what needed to be done.<p>I think the same is true now. Ultimately you get what you pay for, if companies want the lowest bidder and want it down quickly rather than correctly then they only have themselves to blame.<p>I will say that I do hope frameworks save us to a certain degree. If they&#x27;re targeting JQuery, Bootstrap, or similar it will give them Edge&#x2F;Firefox for &quot;free&quot; even if WebKit is their primary target.