&gt; Your claim was that innocent simply meant not found guilty, which is incorrect.<p>What I said is: &quot;by definition, the people being tortured, not having been found guilty of any crime, are innocent&quot;. Which is not incorrect.<p>I&#x27;m going to assume you know the principle of <i>innocent until proven guilty</i>, since it was in my last reply, quoted from Cornell&#x27;s Law site.<p>&gt; the law assumes they&#x27;re in that state until proven otherwise. That doesn&#x27;t mean everyone presumed innocent is innocent.<p>Okay, point me to a legal principle akin to <i>innocent until proven guilty</i> that instead states <i>might not be innocent even if they have not been found guilty</i>.<p>&gt; The word innocent is problematic for reasons I&#x27;ve explained.<p>That it&#x27;s problematic for you does not make it problematic.