&lt;15W TDP is enough for just about any notebook. Any 5W &quot;fat core&quot; CPU is mostly a scam at this point, and they aren&#x27;t really viable until at least 10nm. They throttle too much (in the ultra-slim devices in which they are put), but Intel wanted to sell them anyway (Broadwell Core M was a <i>complete dud</i> because of this). And Core M is also eating a big chunk out of manufacturers&#x27; profits. It&#x27;s more expensive than a Core i5.<p>Zen will be competitive at all levels in terms of performance, price and power, not just the low-end. Now, if Intel makes the highest-end Core i7 Extreme Ultra Edition chip for say $800, and AMD only makes a highest end chip one that costs $600, then yes, I would imagine Intel would still be the &quot;winner&quot; in &quot;peak performance&quot; in the PC market. But that&#x27;s an out of context comparison.<p>The price metric should always be included in the context. What I want to know is if I have to spend $200 on a chip and for a TDP of 15W, which one has the best CPU at that price point? AMD or Intel? What about at the $300 price point and a 30W TDP? If it&#x27;s AMD, then I don&#x27;t care that Intel can make a 5% faster one for $350.<p>I only said the Zen-based E-series, which will go into things such as $200-$300 Chromebooks, will <i>destroy</i> Intel. And I&#x27;m not sure what you mean by &quot;there&#x27;s no mid-range&quot;. The average price for a notebook is around $500.