<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10082294#msg10082294">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 05-06-2014, 16:51:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Then summon literally anything except evil fiends. Good outsiders, neutral outsiders, Evil outsiders who don't have the [Evil] subtype, elementals...there are a zillion different creatures out there, with pretty much every ability you can name under the sun available somewhere. With the Planar/Elemental templates, you can literally summon any creature that exists in any monster manual ever by stacking the appropriate template on them. <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Then point me towards a outsider who functions equal or better footing as a tank than 4 legion devils summoned with summon monster? Or works good in melee like steel devil against spell-casters and their minions (from summon monster 7th list)?<br/><br/>Every summoner guide across net speaks of using evil outsiders because universally evil outsiders are<em>better</em>compared to celestial or elemental counterparts statically speaking. If GM is okay to stat out 'celestial legionnaires' which function like legion devils (or any fiendish outsider which I would wish summon converted to celestial) expect they are celestial entities I am all up for it.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10082294#msg10082294">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 05-06-2014, 16:51:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The premise of the game is non-evil characters, as stated in the recruitment thread. Everyone else obeyed this premise. It's not 'slander' to complain when you insist on doing blatantly evil acts in a non-evil group. If you can't play your character without binding devils and demons left and right, you might need a new character, because you've made one that violates the stated OOC paradigms.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Casting evil spells is nor never has been sole rule in regarding changing your alignment unless your divine spellcaster. Even in book of exalted deeds it mentions casting, repeatedly for centuries, protection from evil (or even gate to celestial plane) does not make evil spellcaster good. Nor vice versa. Of course it's positive belief that every good spell cast by such person (or onto said person) steps them towards becoming good.<br/><br/>What matters more is actual actions themselves (like what for I summoned fiends? Save a baby. Thus act is more good than evil despite using a evil spell).<br/><br/>Also what comes to lawful neutral alignment I follow this; http://www.wikihow.com/Choose-and-Correctly-Role-Play-Your-Alignment-in-Dungeons-and-Dragons-V3.5<br/><br/>Or direct quote;<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>Lawful Neutral:</strong> Lawful neutral people tend to be dispassionate and calculating. They have a set of behavioral guidelines but these guidelines allow for some good and some evil behavior. A lawful neutral character tends to care a lot more about the letter of the law than the spirit. An ideal judge would be lawful neutral, making all rulings based on the letter of the law without an eye towards helping or hurting others or their personal feelings.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>So my char is non-evil but he is also non-good, game asked for non-evil and allowed neutral alignments. I have taken note that casting planar binding for second demon or devil breaks the party and thus I will not do it as party cooperation is more important than single spell. I took the discussion in advance so I know not even plan to do so.<br/><br/>But with succubus around it also limits my options for planar binding as angels nor eladrins will ever work with succubus (and both have detect evil commonly in use). Not to mention my familiar is imp and thus that can cause problems if my binded celestial spots it and thus hell breaks loose (pun intended).<br/><br/>If it would help, I could enter Malconvoker (http://dndtools.eu/classes/malconvoker/) class and I meet requirements for it already. Also it would help quite a lot in my summoning stuff (and if asking why I use fiendish creatures? Just tell I lie to my summons and deceive evil). That PrC proves a point though that only clerics or divine spellcasters worry more about alignment of their spells and summons than arcanist do.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10082304#msg10082304">Quote from: MistressVoluptas on 05-06-2014, 16:54:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br/>xD but still ~ Feed me Seymour~ I needs mai hugs!<br/><br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>You heard her; succubus who works for hug salary! Bargain I say!