<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10082197#msg10082197">Quote from: Ghostwheel on 05-06-2014, 16:12:04</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Making creatures that tank instead of me makes my job pointless, and it would have been better to make a different character if it were going that way.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>And thus you feel how I feel; I made conjurer specifically to summon creatures and call and bind them to my services. I became even<em>focused</em>specialist and thus choose three forbidden schools for me (Evocation, Enchantment and Necromancy). I sacrificed all debufs and offensive powers to able use summoned monsters, buff party and perhaps throw some fiery spheres via orb spells.<br/><br/>So all this slanter in regards what I can or cannot summon or planar bind is same as forbid play my character. I am capable summoning celestials, I used lantern archon to counter vampire dominate gaze vs the party (thanks magic circle vs evil it emits). I binded succubus because it was something I had wanted to do for +15 years as a gamer. Now my suggestions about legion devils as tanks or using steel devils or other fiendish outsiders is because there are no Celestial Codex I nor II, but Fiendish Codex I and II.<br/><br/>There are more evil outsiders which are more versatile and useful than celestials in lower levels in summoning/binding list. To able call any meaningful angel I need the 12 HD planar binding or greater planar binding.<br/><br/>Also this game is meant to be zombie apocalypse sort scenario (or should be) and there will come point where having two tanks or merely summon mobs to pin down a zombie horde is ideal. Example we need guard north and south gate but we got only one tank. So I summon creatures tank north or south gate and thus your char is not pointless Ghostwheel nor mine. I could summon creatures both south and north gate but it means I deplete more resources which could be spend more wisely later in the day (and leave your char not do anything if we are not attacked in middle also).