<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=157589.msg8025014#msg8025014">Quote from: kckolbe on 09-04-2013, 02:07:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What would be the roll for persuasion without lying?  I don't see an expression skill.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Well convincing someone without lying seems to be rare in the 'Verse so I emphasized the lying aspect of the skill, but it can be used for fast-talk and some other forms of persuation as well. Go with manipulation+subterfuge on this one.<br/><br/>Satan_Klaus