Charisma measures four things, any one of those things can carry the score all along. I don't see how this is something to argue so hard over. If the man's talking skills and force of personality are 20 and he's only about 12 in the looks department, it would average out to about 17.3. The point I am making is that Charisma is a measure of all the things put together.<br/><br/>Now to who ever said that if a Sorcerer is disfigured do they lose the ability to cast as well? Yes. In the book of Vile Darkness disfiguring things lower Charisma. But Charisma isn't solely about looks. The Dretch isn't low because of looks alone, its a horrible creature and no one want's to trust or be around it.<br/><br/>On the subject of Charisma, in real life, when it comes to women physical attractiveness goes up on account of other things in their personality. At least it does for me. You have girls who look like Megan Fox but I find totally unattractive because of their shitty personality. This doesn't mean they look any less attractive, it means that, like in this case, part of their Charisma, sometimes a larger part is decided on things other than looks.<br/><br/>You all really need to calm down though, its not like this is that serious.