Thats why we have rules, dont we? and DCs for skills like listen? But all in all, where did I post that Amiko did actually hear anything? except she made an note to herself, that Tiefling was aggressive. Your assumption that Amiko actually hear´d anything was big nono as yourself so eloquently said.<br/><br/>Sorry, but your initial post was so patronizing that it made my blood boil. Should you want everything been rolled (like listens, spots, etc, Im game, but that sucks the very life out from RolePlaying, and places it into category of RollPlaying in my book.)