Savage Species is 3.0, so that's out of the question.<br/><br/>For what it's worth, here's (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UlAw2IywwKsY7HCTcLL3eUS-wcqM9jZR3BKdvmV_jpc/pub) an example of an updated progression (to 3.5) we could use, gaining all the benefits of the 3.5 Succubus at various levels.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10077419#msg10077419">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 04-06-2014, 15:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Now, if we go savage species progression and she being counted as my cohort (despite not having leadership feat) then she must use PC char generation rules for her stats as well instead of default monster manual stats for succubus.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Actually, that's only if she's an actual PC. If not, she'd probably use the NPC array (13 12 11 10 9 8) or elite array (15 14 13 12 10 8). Even cohorts are still NPCs.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10077419#msg10077419">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 04-06-2014, 15:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also in higher level she can use unholy blight once per day plus all greater succubus powers at-will (greater teleport, ethereal jaunt, charm monster) and has 10% chance to summon balor. Also be immune to electricity instead having just resistance for it. It gains DR 10/+2 in level 11th but I assume this is cold iron/good DR instead.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Again, 3.0 stuff. Doesn't really belong in a 3.5 game.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10077419#msg10077419">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 04-06-2014, 15:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Now what comes in regards 'one PC having too much power' take account I am conjurer and conjurers work with specifically using minions (either summoned or called). Also you talk it from 'PvP' perspective which should not be case when speaking party balance.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>So spend actions/resources in combat to do so. Any high-level caster (or someone who picks up a candle of Invocation) can bind creatures. That's different from using your actual class abilities. If you *do* want to do that, follow the binding rules, and have a chance of getting screwed over by a vengeful succubus who's frustrated with being brought into the material realm, and forced to help in the fight against evil instead of corrupting people and spreading Evil throughout the world. I don't think you have any risk of that happening if a person is playing the succubus.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10077419#msg10077419">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 04-06-2014, 15:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If we take MistressVoluptas as player character using savage species progression, she should get PC wealth very least (even if rule technical stand point she is my cohort despite lacking feat to do so also which makes things hairy and thus makes twist is she NPC or not). As PC she should be 9th level succubus in savage species instead 7th.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I agree; if they become a full player, they should follow the progression (3.5,<strong>not</strong>3.0), and should get full WBL according to a PC of their ECL, with an ECL equal to our current level. But that's of course, IF the Dm wants to take on another person, and a succubus at that.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg10077419#msg10077419">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 04-06-2014, 15:51:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Overall whole issue has become more complex than I would had ever desired it to be and even MistressVoluptas is confused and wondering is this normal for DnD groups argue about hair splitting about the rules and no longer sure what stuff should be in her charsheet :P.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Only when it comes to people using rules that do not fit what everyone else in the entire party is playing, or where the Leadership feat (and similar abilities) is concerned :P