<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=275524.msg13571739#msg13571739">Quote from: Ontan on 03-10-2017, 09:07:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><ul class="bbc_list" style="list-style-type: decimal;"><li>Do the rules also preclude an invasion + raid? </li><li>If I recruit, but a same-turn enemy raid destroys the rice, is the recruitment cancelled appropriately? Or is the metal just wasted?</li><li>This one is purely for roleplaying: are Clan Orders and big map movements (e.g. battles) presumed public knowledge for all PCs?</li></ul></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>1.  Fuck me sidewise I've read the rules and see no RAW to indicate not.  I'd say yes but honestly that sounds like it's going to quickly become bullshit, constant raids on all border territories etc etc.<br/><br/>My ultimate ruling, as now added to the rules in the recruitment thread, is thus:<br/><strong>Invade, Raid, and Defend are all mutually exclusive actions and only one may be taken per turn.<br/></strong><br/>2.  You get the Units but imagine, if you will, the turn as a slip 'n-slide with a top and bottom.<br/><ul class="bbc_list"><li>Top of the Turn:  before any player actions have occurred, metal and rice are reckoned and accounted for (metal increases if it's the new year).  <strong>Here is where any excess Units would be disbanded</strong>.</li><li>Middle of the Turn:  Players take their actions.</li><li>Bottom of the Turn:  Combat and diplo is dealt with, changes to the strat map and the transfer of resources\items are finalized.</li></ul>Raids occur at the Middle\Bottom depending on if someone was defending the territory and has slightly complicated the roll now.  However, the effects are not "made real" until the top of the<em>next </em>turn.  So you'd have those Units for any combat you were hoping to participate<br/><br/>3.  Yes, with the<strong>notable exception</strong>of those Invade orders made as part of the special ritual available from the Kabuki which masks the invaders' destination.