<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=3906.msg153719#msg153719">Quote from: Vandren on 30-03-2006, 20:55:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Jacob may have also (had he entered the Umbra).<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I don't believe he can.  Don't Gurahl have a harder time with that than Garou?  (I believe there's a Rite for it or something, and the only Rite he knows is Talisman Dedication.)