<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=275524.msg13604322#msg13604322">Quote from: Faeli on 16-10-2017, 05:57:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">No I'm not, I'm one person.  The other bandits aren't even THERE.  I'm sneaking into the battle and seeking out their general.<br/><br/>Look, I get what you're saying... but the EXPLICIT reason I took this action is the rules stated that the only requirement was to be able to get to the battlefield.  They said absolutely nothing about having to wager bandits.  I -need- to rebuild my bandits and so to, instead, lose both bandits and morale because the rules are blatantly lying to me is pretty damn frustrating :(<br/><br/>Edit:  Also, you can't really be like "You approved them!" when I approved the rules as written, not as they existed in your head without being written that way :P<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>"Look, I get what you're saying... but the EXPLICIT reason I took this action is the rules stated that the only requirement was to be able to get to the battlefield.  They said absolutely nothing about having to wager bandits.  I -need- to rebuild my bandits and so to, instead, lose both bandits and morale because the rules are blatantly lying to me is pretty damn frustrating :( "<br/><br/>I understand where you're coming from and I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer, but you have in your hands a very powerful ability--if you had won?  You'd basically have GG'd Clan Oshiro.  I understand you may elect to let the generals go free, but that's your freedom to do so, as-is you could keep them for some time.<br/><br/>"Edit:  Also, you can't really be like "You approved them!" when I approved the rules as written, not as they existed in your head without being written that way :P"<br/><br/>With the RAW at the time, "single person combat" meant two people throwing units at each other in the combat section.  This is the context within which they existed.<br/><br/><hr/><br/>At some point the question becomes "what is the point of the bandits?"  Amount does not really matter for raids, for example.  You need them for self defense, but you do not control territory the way other Clans do so there's not really a point in annexing and fighting over land.  You steal shit and kidnap folks.  I'm not trying to rain on the parade here, but I thought the banditos being involved made sense because you're having to take a general in the heat of battle: they've probably got some dudes around them.<br/><br/>I confess, if I'd taken a few days to make this game, none of this bullshit would be happening--but none of the group games I've put thought and effort into have ever taken off.  This is the only one.  And it's the one where I just kinda quickly wrote everything up in an hour.  I do not know why or how this worked out to be the popular idea, maybe the Japan connection, but it did.<br/><br/>Changes mostly matter insofar as they effect the game for others.  I can't really make it easier for you to kidnap folks or the game could get fairly gg no re if\when the battle shifts to Gunba's territories as the front line.  Every time you attack you could simply ride in and try to jack their Generals.  Try enough times and you'll succeed by virtue of probability.  Something has to limit you, yeah?<br/><br/>I would be OK with you simply<strong>contesting them in Warfare directly</strong>: you'd roll against their opener for the combat and if you won they'd be forced to make a Hard Escape Roll.<span class="bbc_u">However</span>, you'd only get to do it once/year.  The issue there is<em>what will you do with your bandits besides defend your castle</em>?<br/><br/><hr/><br/>You're not alone in being dissatisfied with the ruleset, but the more I shift the more peoples' presently lain plans can get knocked out of alignment.  Folks are counting on a certain way of doing business within the world of Shindo, and while I could probably tear down and replace the current rules with something far more functional, there would be players plots-in-motion that got totally fucked by my doing that.