<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">((I think that my speed skill negates the function of your spear to able act first duirng charge, I have skill which allows me act always first while I am charging or I am charged upon. I asume this how the skill works so I will make my attack&amp;wound rolls and also my parry roll incase of counter attack. Also I roll dodge in advance because I know you have three attacks in total. If the skill does not function as I asume then make freely your attacks, I have made at least my defensive rolls Smiley.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Yes in that case since to opposing item/skill allows both to go first.  Zaer would go first.  Not because he had the skill lightning reflex.  The spear would still counter it.  So then it go down to the chars profile  ( I ) which was each 2.  So then who had won to who goes first would act first.   Since Zaer had won to go first with his character.  He then gets first strike.