<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50216.msg2363033#msg2363033">Quote from: Kate on 21-10-2009, 06:52:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You can't protect the party from all flanks, doing so is impossible - you can't do it, would another warblade be better ? Maybe, warblades to have a culture - loose yes but one that likely you will rp (Btw in the write up of warblades its mentioned you respect fighters but ooc is different) </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'll let most of the topic drop, though there are a couple things I have to respond to, and this is one of them.<br/><br/>Class is invisible.  Completely.  Characters don't have glowing class designators over their heads.  If you line up a dwarf Warrior, a dwarf Knight, a dwarf Fighter, and a dwarf Warblade in front of King Olaf, he doesn't see a warrior, a knight, a fighter, and a warblade.  He sees four dwarven warriors.  If you line up a gnome Wizard, a gnome Psion, a gnome Beguiler, and a gnome Bard, he doesn't see a wizard, a psion, a beguiler, and a bard (unless, of course, the Bard is, in fact, a bard).  He sees four gnome mages.<br/><br/>There is no Warblade culture.  There are<em>characters</em>.  Characters who are skilled warriors, but their characters would still be the same whether they were represented as Warblades or Fighters or Barbarians or Knights.  As such, a Warblade culture does not exist, in any capacity.  There may be organizations and cultures of warriors, but not of Warblades.<br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50216.msg2363378#msg2363378">Quote from: Odin on 21-10-2009, 11:22:25</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The thing is, about the Warblade, or any marital class, without specialized builds they don't really stand alone well. You can search the web and find the ultimate broken fighter Build where you get like 51 AC and become a damage eating tank that can stand out there with DR and high AC and just cause a shit storm. <br/><br/>But my concern in this game, more so than the characters stats are personalities, I'm kind of co-DM and I think that good role playing is at least as important as good roll playing. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>But again, characters actually being good at things they're supposed to be good at does not, in any way, conflict with roleplay or personalities, and in fact can contribute to it precisely because the character is<em>actually good at what they're supposed to be good at</em>.  You can have spectacular characters and personalities and interplays and<em>still</em>have mechanically powerful characters.  There is no detraction there.<br/><br/>And to the point of AC being useless at higher levels?  That 51 AC you're probably not gonna get until level 20?  The Tarrasque has +52 AB on its secondary attacks, meaning it can throw in some Power Attack and still hit on a two.<br/><br/>And the benefit of Warblade is you don't<em>have</em>to make some twinked out super-niche specialist build to make a viable character.  That's precisely the paradigm Tome of Battle breaks.<br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50216.msg2363473#msg2363473">Quote from: Zylvyn on 21-10-2009, 13:27:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You have to get married?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I think there<em>is</em>one marital class.  Knot Binder of... something or another.  From the Book of Erotic Fantasy.