<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=170330.msg8021303#msg8021303">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 08-04-2013, 14:05:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, work with a elf char as said there is plenty of time to roll and make the char. But Lilitu would be fine, but there may need some stat adjustment with it (mostly less spell-alike abilities and more focused with their powers). There is Alu-demon (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/demon/demon-alu) which would be good candidate to be member of Aryvandaar higher houses (like first or second generation fey'ri, just add elven racials in and remove one bonus feat from alu-demon to fit her in although getting racial bonuses need bit math).<br/><br/>Succubus (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/demon/succubus) is not bad either but would need class levels to make her CR 12. But she would had been planar ally/planar bind brought to the Aryvandaar so you need establish connection with a PC or NPC is your summoner but you would be left mostly own devices. Or that your directly connected to Malkizid himself.<br/><br/>Anyways same as PaleEnchantress I will post later changes to Hathran and Lilitu demon race (workload just keeps growing -_- ).<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Hmm.  Comparing the Lilitu to the Pathfinder Succubus, I don't think it would be too much work.  For the spell-like abilities, remove Quickened Suggestion and Symbol of Persuasion from the 1/day abilities, and remove Disguise Self and Fly from the at-will abilities.  Make Detect Good and Tongues constant, same as the Succubus, and that's done.<br/><br/>For skills, condense Spot and Listen into Perception, replace Forgery with Linguistics (which I believe is used along with Bluff for forging documents in Pathfinder), and add Use Magic Device as a racial skill.  Then, for the special abilities, remove Item Use and add on Change Shape (same as the Succubus).<br/><br/>Finally, for the spellcasting, the domains would be Chaos and Trickery, and the Lilitu would presumably get access to domain powers, as a 9th-level Cleric. (Or you could alternately just cut the domain access, as with other monsters with Cleric casting, but since the Lilitu's big gimmick is pretending to be a Cleric, I think keeping the domains around fits a little more.  It's also balanced out by the fact that it's only 9th-level casting, not 12th.)<br/><br/>Tada!  Pathfinderized Lilitu. ^^<br/><br/>Ah, and while I'm not expecting to get a free Leadership feat anymore, since I'm not playing a noble, the thought does occur to me that Kimera could also get the chance to play a demon if he were to play my cohort.  I could spend one of my regular feats on it, pick up that one Heroes of Battle feat that would let his maximum level be 11, rather than 10, and he could be, say, an Incubus with martial adept levels, or something like that.  I imagine he could take Crusader levels and make a pretty good fake Paladin to go along with my fake Priestess.<br/><br/>Edit: Oh, yes, and having been summoned and bound to serve Malkizid does bring up a good opportunity for introducing the character into the game.  Pale's stated that she wants her character to be fairly influential within Aryvandaar, and is presumably going to be ambitious and looking to increase that influence even further, so it could be that my Lilitu was sent over to Eisheth's court by Malkizid.  Supposedly, she'd have been sent as a gift, but in actuality her job would be to serve as the fallen Solar's eyes and ears in the court, helping him keep an eye on a potential rival.<br/><br/>I think that that makes for a good way to introduce all sorts of interesting plots. ^^