Yeah, I'm just intent on setting the record straight about:<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=189056.msg9176977#msg9176977">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 11-11-2013, 03:53:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, in Thay very least tieflings are not social outcastes usual cases (if not count background quirks like Ghaazala). In practice some tieflings are even red wizards (although PrC in DMG and faerun books say 'humans' but it should also count tieflings just lore wise).</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>...because that's just not the case, and the behavior of the Red Wizards is a big part of the FR background. Thay is THE big bad evil empire, it is definitely racist, it is definitely oppressive, and most tieflings in Thay are definitely slaves...And that's all straight from the books. And those books are what Ghaazala is based on.<br/><br/>I am totally fine with Zaer's character being a fluffy good-aligned "Not a real Red Wizard but kind of trained the same." character! That's totally cool with me!<br/><br/>But I am not fine with any suggestions that normalize Thay as a nice happy place where the Red Wizards<em>aren't </em>racist bastards with a fiend-blood eugenics program and where tieflings frolic among butterflies and rainbows...Because that cuts into not only my character background, but also the setting background itself. I'm all for adding things to the setting, new towns, villages, cults, secret societies, what have you if that helps someone manifest their character...But not with subtracting major elements from the setting. Thay may seem a long way away from Waterdeep (as far as it is from London to Kabul, along the Silk Road which the Golden Way is based upon), but the Thayan enclave in Waterdeep is one of the largest such in the West, and there have been struggles between the Thayan magic-item merchants and the Waterdhavian ones already, because the Thayans tried to undercut them and crash the market.<br/><br/>And that is the Thay which has shaped the way Ghaazala behaves, and why she is slow to trust, and why she is blatantly hostile to arcanists with Thayan accents wearing tons of red. (And she is hostile, not snarky...If the party isn't feeling like maybe they shouldn't leave these two alone together in a room, maybe I'm not doing it right...And it should be pretty obvious to anyone in the party why Red Wizard + free tiefling might be a hazardous mix. The Thayans and their slavery and the rumors about their diabolic experiments have reached every corner of Faerun.)<br/><br/>She can't be this much of an asshole all the time! Inanna apparently likes her. ;)<br/><br/>EDIT: Okay, just saw the 'mixup' post, Zaer. It sounded a little bit more like 4E 'denatured' tieflings, but I don't know. Even in Mulhorand tieflings aren't exactly respected citizens. But yeah...If anything surprises him, it's probably that a tiefling with Thayan tattoos DARES to be this openly hostile, instead of frightened. We'll see where these two go, but it's bound to be a rocky road for a while. ;)