<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50216.msg2365306#msg2365306">Quote from: Katina Tarask on 21-10-2009, 23:03:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">But there's still the matter that you shouldn't <em>have</em> to break the game just to be relevant.  I can make a Commoner who can kick ass through level nine or so by buying and training a hoard of elephants.  That doesn't make Commoner a good class.<br/><br/>And I'd like to see what shenanigans are being pulled to get an AC51 Fighter by level 8.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>It was some crazy feats and other BS. But most DMs don't allow that kind of stuff in their games. Like I said before I usually screen material and a lot of stuff from Exalted Deeds, Psionics, Tome of Battle and some of the other books isn't allowed. It really depends on the game and all.