<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50145.msg2364299#msg2364299">Quote from: Maleficent on 21-10-2009, 19:15:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">With an 18 charisma he's not handsome??? &gt;.&gt; That's a 10 charisma you're describing right there. &gt;.&gt; That's like saying my bard is ugly as hell. 10 is an average face in the crowd.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Charisma means many, many things.  Appearance is not one of them.  It's just a correlation.  You can have someone who's absolutely gorgeous, but about as crass, rude, unlikeable, and generally uncharismatic as you can imagine.  Likewise, you can have someone who's fabulously charismatic and persuasive, but not exactly easy on the eyes; Winston Churchill wasn't exactly a looker, but he's one of history's more charismatic figures.