<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50145.msg2364514#msg2364514">Quote from: thebobmaster on 21-10-2009, 20:14:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't know why I'm getting involved in this, but Maleficent...you do realize that that same handbook you spend all your time quoting from says, and I quote, "This ability represents actual strength of personality, not merely how one is perceived by others in a social setting." In fact, that sentence comes directly after the one you keep quoting. Tell me, how do looks fit into "strength of personality"?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Strength of personality: You can have a golden personally and appearance to match, as soon as you change that personality your appearance changes with you. People look at you different to how you act. As soon as you have a jovial disposition you become beautiful to people. We all know people judge by appearance in the real world.<br/><br/>You apply Charisma to the following skills:<br/>Bluff - Who are you going to believe more? A good looking person or a rat on the street?<br/><br/>Diplomacy - First impressions I'd say, the more appealing the person is to look at might wield more information.<br/><br/>Disguise - Obviously you're changing your APPEARANCE with this one.<br/><br/>Gather Information - Goes along the same lines as diplomacy I'd say.<br/><br/>Handle Animal - Ok you got me on this one.<br/><br/>Intimidate - Your appearance can help with the words that you spew out of your mouth as threats.<br/><br/>Perform - Would you rather watch some hot skinny stripper or bertha the 2 ton elephant giving a pole dance?<br/><br/>Use Magic Device - Don't ask me why you need charisma to get shit that isn't animate to work, if you can say please it should work for you.<br/><br/>Now back to the original statement of what the definition of charisma is:<br/>"Charisma measures a character’s force of personality, persuasiveness, personal magnetism, ability to lead, and physical attractiveness. This ability represents actual strength of personality, not merely how one is perceived by others in a social setting. Charisma is most important for paladins, sorcerers, and bards. It is also important for clerics, since it affects their ability to turn undead. Every creature has a Charisma score."<br/><br/>The first sentence gives you a list of things charisma is made up of: "force of personality, persuasiveness, personal magnetism, ability to lead, and physical attractiveness." I don't see the word "Or" in there to make it an option to use those break downs as the only thing a character is good for.<br/><br/>If you really wanted to show your character has a silver tongue or is good at speaking, pick up Perform: Oratory.<br/><br/>Now would you rather shag a Dretch<br/>(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/thumb/4/4a/Dretch_-_Chippy.jpg/240px-Dretch_-_Chippy.jpg)<br/><br/>or a Nymph?<br/>(http://www.iwozhere.com/SRD/images/MM35_PG198.jpg)