The bag of holding has changed significantly since 2nd ed then. Back then, you had to call a specific item to find it in a bag of holding, and there was little physical difference between a bag of holding and a bag of devouring... making it difficult to tell them apart because you didn't know what was in the bag. That ws part of the interesting thing about finding a bag, you didn't know what was in it until, unless you started looking for specific things to see if one appeared. One of my character spent a month searching a bag that he had found on a dead thing and had quite a pile of stuff by the time that he was done... Including a dead kolbald. You couldn't turn the thing inside out to empty it back then, although that makes sense in a way... It just seems wierd to "look" into a bag of holding, or handy haversack and see several dozen items clearly even thought the space that you can actually view through is only about a foot square.<br/><br/>So, which is it? Bag appears empty, empty at some point, or you see 80 pounds of junk in it at a glance? It'll effect how Wren reacts.