<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=50145.msg2364307#msg2364307">Quote from: Katina Tarask on 21-10-2009, 19:18:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Charisma means many, many things.  Appearance is not one of them.  It's just a correlation.  You can have someone who's absolutely gorgeous, but about as crass, rude, unlikeable, and generally uncharismatic as you can imagine.  Likewise, you can have someone who's fabulously charismatic and persuasive, but not exactly easy on the eyes; Winston Churchill wasn't exactly a looker, but he's one of history's more charismatic figures.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>This is not 2nd ed where they BROKE it down into 2 sub stats in the skills and powers. This is 3.5 where Charisma IS how well you look as well. >.< Go read your damn books again. I was a sanctioned wizards of the coast judge for over 8 years. I've ran more modules in 3.5 then any other system I know.