I was reading the disguise skill which is ambiguous in at least two ways on that. I was actually using a wotc ruling sparked by someone in a similar situation (I believe it was a succubus and their alternate form to appear as another race) I'll look for it right now.<br/><br/><br/>Edit: Ah found it. it was actually dealing with alternate forms in general.<br/><br/>(Copy/pasted) A creature in an assumed form is effectively camouflaged as a creature of the assumed form's kind. It gains a +10 bonus on Disguise checks it makes to appear as a creature of the assumed form's kind.<br/><br/>This aspect of changing form causes some confusion. If the alternate form power makes the creature look like some other kind of creature, why is a Disguise check needed at all? Usually, it isn't.<br/><br/>To the casual observer, the transmuted creature looks just like a genuine example of the creature whose form it has assumed. If someone is paying close attention to the creature, the viewer can attempt a Spot check to note something odd about transmuted creature's appearance, as noted in the description of the Disguise skill. Use the +10 modifier on the Disguise check rather than the modifiers shown on the first table in the skill description. The Disguise check the masquerading creature makes reflects how accurately it has reproduced the assumed form. If the creature uses alternate form to pose as a particular individual, anyone studying the creature might get a Spot bonus as noted in the Disguise skill description.<br/><br/>Okay So on rereading it if someone is really studying Abduxuel that actually do get a spot check to notice something is amiss, though they don't actually see through anything. You said Zekolyn cant see through it anyway but i'll roll it for the current day in case anyone else tries. (you can roll rather than take 10 if you like)<br/><br/>Disguise Check = 28<br/><div class="spoiler_container"><div class="spoiler_header" onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">At 2012-04-30 20:12:50, PaleEnchantress (uid: 7336) rolls: 1d20 Result: 15 (http://elliquiy.com/forums/dicebot.php?r=37650)  + 13 = 28 </div></div>