<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=237290.msg11716509#msg11716509">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 11-10-2015, 20:32:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>Idlewyld:</strong> You added defense combat mastery twice on your defense roll. The defense combat value <em>already</em> has that attribute calculated in on the modifier. So your value in defense roll is +9 (not DCV 9 + 4).<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Right - that should be 5+4, which is still the nine I actually used. Thanks,