The ogres' Move Silently results are 8 and 6 respectively.  I actually rolled pretty well, but they're in half-plate and wearing heavy shields and have no ranks in it, so that's what you get.<br/><br/>Let's assume they're 10 feet back from the door, so that's +6 to the DC, or an equivalent of 14 and 12 respectively.  However, they also have the advantage that they're already in position and not really moving except incidentally, so if that's worth +3 or more to the DC, the rogue hears nothing.  Otherwise she does.  I'm not sure how much that affects their tactics, really.<br/><br/>Either way, Jera, your move.