<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=104036.msg4742654#msg4742654">Quote from: Christopher28 on 05-06-2011, 05:53:03</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, we already know that Mars Pattern Macrocannons and Titanforge Lances are available for sale without checks... so that simplifies things slightly if we're willing to just go for some of these.  (they're not the best weapons in the world, but they're pretty darn good.)  What would the actual acquisition test for them be?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>5/100, like I said. If we try for things that aren't macrocannons/lances, the odds drop even further because of the need to find them first.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As for our chances... well, I'd say they're better than you think.  Darius can use his 80 intimidate to haggle... Sarah can actually add her +10 to get ship's components to Darius's +10 to get weapons for a +20 (if we feel we need it... we might want Sarah to use her first acquisition to get us the Salvage System!<br/><br/>It would require one acquisition from each character, but it'd be worth it.  If we're worried about our chances, Baromir could "Wheel and Deal" and spend a 100 achievement points to raise the odds by another +10... but I wonder if it'd be needed.<br/><br/>If Sarah does help, we could also go for poor quality weapon systems for an addition +15 to the check... (a total +35, or +45 if Baromir assists.  Each person who assists could make their own haggle checks, so between Darius's 80 intimidate, Baromir's 73 Commerce, and Sarah's 51 Trade Voidfarer, we'd almost certainly make our chances very good indeed!  Yes, it would take each of their first trades... but it'd be an almost certain success, if we roll even halfway decently, I think.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>And I'm pretty sure you're vastly overestimating our chances - those Haggle attempts could help us, but even one degree of failure would basically make it impossible to get the item. I don't think we can 'pool' our Haggling or acqusitions like that, either - though I may be wrong there.