Well, if we convert to Pathfinder I think we would end up rebuild our chars based on system in pathfinder (and some cases convert the monster types as all have not been converted officially to pathfinder system). So in that sense I agree it would be big hussle to convert every detail and easier to restart in pathfinder and build chars anew (either same chars or different char altogether).<br/><br/>Anyways waiting update on abyssal/demon front.