<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=126755.msg5680111#msg5680111">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 05-01-2012, 21:00:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Well, disguise skill could work but not much overall. Illussion disguises (veil, disguise self etc) would work as those can be resisted or pierced by mundane means. Altough save DC for will save can be high but some effects also ignore illussion appearance.<br/><br/>It's overal physical alteration of the form which is the issue.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>...I see.  In that case, might I recommend a different tactic?  For the moment, let's forget about trying to give any sort of in-universe justification, and instead approach this from a completely OOC point of view.<br/><br/>Why, exactly, is overall physical alteration of the form an issue?  What sort of situations are you worried about coming to pass if you allow magical shapeshifting?