<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=204610.msg10079540#msg10079540">Quote from: Ershin on 05-06-2014, 01:26:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Just butting in here because I've been following the thread and love a good rule debate, but spot on, the spell is cast. If said spell is a touch attack, however, I don't believe it would bypass the attack necessary for the spell to be cast as per its description and a separate roll would need to be made. Using your own words, "If there was <em>not</em> a separate roll involved it would be explicit on that"<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>It does not follow common sense, since the melee weapon has to deal damage for the spell stored to trigger. The melee weapon usually needs to touch someone to deal damage, so the requirement for a touch spell to go off is already met.<br/><br/>If the spelled stored us another type of spell, like suggestion, then yeah a will save would go off. Getting hit with a weapon doesn't turn your brain off.