"Not all divinations can be blocked by simple warding spells. I do wonder who specifically is responsible for this one. Someone must have had their full divine consiousness do it, and it wasn't me or I'd know already." Astaroth said to Orro. She tried to think of any other potential magics that could block the type of divination she used, knowing they were few in number.<br/><br/>"Oh Lord Orro. . ." Jerion said, biting his lower lip and looking the Archmage over. He had been watching Orro for quite some time. He was such a handsome older man, so rugged and masculine, especially for a mage.  "I think we will have more problems by upstarts and egotists among our so called allies trying to make our goddess settle with less of mulhorand than she deserves. So the real battle might not be until after we've won. Also, how do your roses grow?"<br/><br/>Jerion once gave Orro a bed of roses that could move on its own due growing out of a slop of reanimated human and animal fetuses.  It did smell a bit since preservative magics or oils would have killed the roses, but it really was a magnificent creation.  It was meant not only as a gift but as a way for Jerion to announce his feelings. Orro hadn't responded to the unspoken overtures of Jerion's affection yet, but Jerion knew in time all would work out. Perhaps in the future he should just leave gifts as surprises rather than give them to the Archmage directly.<br/><br/>And Orro was looking for a mate? Oh how uninspired. He and Orro could have children, they'd just have to steal them.  Using magic could work too, Jerion would be happy to impregnate the Archmage as long as it didn't bother their sex life.  It was rather disheartening that Orro would consider taking an other mate after all they'd been through together.  Perhaps he just needed to encourage Lord Orro to not be so romantically stunted in his desire for producing an heir.<br/><br/>"Touch Lord Orro's robe with the tip of your staff" Jerion asked of The Forbidden One.  It was a simple gesture, easy to not seem out of place. The immaterial twin attempted to entwine it's malevolent presance out of the staff and into the robe.<br/><br/>"When someone tries to take from The Goddess we simply obliterate them and consume all they had as the spoils of war. It is a poetic justice that they lose it all trying to gain at Astaroth's expense." Caligula said in his rich gravely voice. Many had fallen to him because they believed him just a dumb but powerful bruiser. He enjoyed the glories of battle and war but he was also the genius behind Astaroth's "Thought Police". It didn't matter that he wasn't here on his official capacity, he never stopped doing his duty to his mother.<br/><br/><br/>He turned to Nashandra, casually asking "Im sure even you see clearly how foolish it would be to plot against the Goddess, don't you?"  Before he spoke he had already covertly manifested his ability to read Nashandra's thoughts. Even if Astaroth trusted the Archmage there was no insurance that all was as it should be.<br/><br/>With all their extravagance, the group entered the main foyer.<br/><br/><br/>OOC:<br/>Mindsight would indeed allow Orro to sense Jerion's presence when he is *ethereal*. When he's actually possessing something gets an INT based hide check to avoid notice. So Orro probably doesn't feel the other consciousness at the moment, but he has been around at times to feel it when Jerion is simply trailing along in ethereal form. So he would know something is often around her that cant be detected by most others, and even if he cant detect it at the moment he might suspect that it could be around still.<br/><br/>Okay. Orro, Will save DC 27 to resist Jerion possessing his robe.<br/><br/>Caligula Bathory rolled a 35 on his check to manifest Read Thoughts without a display against DC 17 (success)<br/><br/>Caligula Bathory manifests Read Thoughts, and looks into Nashandra's as he asks her the question he did.  DC 21 will save to resist.<br/><br/>Edit: Since Jerion has to make a hide check to avoid detection rather then it be automatic. What would the DC of Orros mindsight be if it allowed a save?  Jerion rolled a 35 on his "save", so if the psudo dc is lower then that Jerion avoided detection.