Ollap haves slight smile on his lips but inside his mind he is bursting in laughter about irony of the subject what Ibix chosed talk about! Ollap replies and the strange peacefull but dangerous mysterious wave motion continues around Ibix while Ollap talk; "Hmmm, intresting, your style focus on endurance and hard strikes. While mine focus on elusiviness and severall counter attacks. I am more skilled dodger than stand in way of the blow but I can endure pain more than most folk would.<br/><br/>Hmmm, intresting debate you chosed, but somewhat fitting to wedding scenery *grins*. In this case the religious texts would be heretic Mano's ramblings about 'true self' vs Immaculate basic texts. Mano was a outcaste Immacuate monk who believed that to reach true self state invidual haved to experienced every sin what mankind can think and then endure the guilt and so reach 'higher' state of divinity because person in question is experienced. While Immaculate text says person must endure the desire do sin than instead do sin and endure it's guilt.<br/><br/>Of course this is not likely exactly what you wanted, but this is closest texts wich comes to my mind. You would only need hint about the text and show that once some Immaculate have thinked about this and so show that the religious debate is accetable according Immaculate teaching standards. Basically if you find religious text writen some philosopher or Immaculate wich someway invovles your debate, you can debate almost any subject. Of course your reasoning to follow this rule or actually breaking of it is to provide families well breeded offpsrings yes? So would this rule apply all dragon-blood Immaculates or only those whit higher breeding?"