More issues came up from tyr's post than any of ours. As tyr's posts conflicted seriously on several marine laws/protocols which have excisted centuries on sea vessels (I think post had been made from lack of knowlegde of such things). Which has resulted in Ugly getting into writing block in regards his own char response to it.<br/><br/>Also it's still bit mystery what for we rolled initiatives, so far my bet is on 'boat is sinking' :P