<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=272999.msg13466895#msg13466895">Quote from: LisztesFerenc on 28-08-2017, 08:47:58</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">  Its actually only +4, warhorses do not appear to be proficient with their own attack. I'm not sure what to make of that.<br/><br/>  Yeah we will. In fact sorry I forgot about that, go ahead and roll for Ares's haggling. It's DC 17 however, for the reasons Alwyn already mentioned.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I quoted that attack directly from the PHB, it doesn't matter to me what it turns out to be, but it might be easier to just follow the PHB on that one? Of course, you're free to deviate from that as you please. :-)<br/><br/><br/>I'll do a roll for Ares. He already has Guidance up to help with his haggling. I'll post the result of the roll in my reply and you can verify that roll on my profile.