<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=233481.msg11528294#msg11528294">Quote from: eternaldarkness on 09-08-2015, 00:52:46</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Doesn't matter anyway. The action was probably invalid, and even if it wasn't Orro is 200% prepared for this situation.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Actually I believe you're the one who made the invalid action since Jerion would have waited until the beginning of the next round to use ally or enemy (a free action) then curse you (standard action).  Jerion is not limited to huge size (he can go up to colossal) and the floor of a room or even bare earthen ground is specifically listed in the FoP entry as a valid target. I believe your total save is 14 + 14 = 28 -2 = 26. You fail. Its not mind affecting and you don't have the opportunity to move DOOL save bonus to will.  Also due to the nature of the ability im not sure someone knows when they are under the effects of ally or enemy, but that doesn't matter in this case.<br/><br/>If thats a problem for you let me know because I'm only doing something you told me you *wanted* me to do.  I'm not into PvP, this is something you and I planned together. If you changed your mind you should have let me know before now. I can go edit Jerion's interest in you out of existence.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=233481.msg11528069#msg11528069">Quote from: Miroque on 08-08-2015, 23:33:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">@PaleE: What did the spirit thingy do again ? And how? (I meen its easier to put game effect/ability in spoilers, so there will not be missunderstandings. (as there might be some immediate actions etc that would activate. And/or contigencies, traps, etc, to make a few. not to mention immunities) and this place, might have wards aswell.. I would not go as far to assume doing X will go unnoticed by Y. (X = anything, Y= Everyone/anyone/gathering caller)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I thought it was obvious, but ill more specifically spell it out. I would assume no one noticed since I am unaware of ways someone could notice. If someone has such a rare or custom ability than we can backtrack assuming they do anything about it.<br/><br/>Jerion uses Posses (noncontinous) object on the floor of the room.  I know of one ability in the entire game that could stop that. If Gilgeam is using it than add the following line.<br/><br/>Jerion is perplexed at his inability to merge with the floor of the room. He waits a moment to gather his thoughts again and instead possesses the air in the room.<br/><br/>Next Round<br/><br/>Jerion uses ally or enemy to lower Orro's wis by 4 (free action, possibly swift action). It's specifically a -4 penalty to wis rather than ability damage. I should have mentioned that part as it makes a difference.<br/>Jerion uses Curse (dc 27) to curse Orro into having heightened sex drive but being unable to climax with anyone but him.<br/><br/>- - -<br/><br/>However, as I said even though Orro should be affected by what I can tell. This is something Eternaldarkness and I discussed OOCly and he said he really liked the idea of me doing it.  If he changed his mind he needs to let me know, in which case none of this even happened.