<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=126755.msg6137265#msg6137265">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 14-04-2012, 17:16:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I dunno, let's brainstorm. <br/><br/>Obyriths have Form of Madness because they're basically Lovecraftian horrors who don't live in the Far Realms - operating on a different plane of 'sanity' than even demons or devils, to the point where looking at them permanently scars other sentient minds as a coping mechanism for the impossible. The exact Form varies by the creature, but they all induce a hallucinatory effect related to the creature's "true form".<br/><br/>So what would be a Devil or Demon's primary defining characteristic? Offhand, the first thing that comes to mind for demons is that they are infinite - the Abyss has an endless supply of demons. So a Demon Lord might warrant a form of regenerative immortality the way certain Gods have; they cannot be slain outside their home realm/planar layer - if killed, they instead slowly reform and regenerate back home at full strength.<br/><br/>Not sure about devils, but being the pinnacle embodiments of Lawful Evil - Law perverted to personal ends, rather than the Law-for-the-sake-of-Law that Modrons and Inevitables are - something related to organization or armies would feel thematically suitable. A signficantly heightened Summoning ability, for instance, possibly tied into a unique-by-Archdevil buff or special ability applied to all creatures they summon to aid them.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>I think all True Demons and Greater Devils can't be killed except on their homeplanes. At least that was the way it was in second edition, anyway.<br/><br/>I like the augmented summon ability--how do you think we should work it out from a mechanics standpoint?<br/><br/>I am tempted to go for a Final Fantasyesque Caller Ability with a cool down.<br/><br/>As for the Demon Lords--<br/><br/>What about something associated with blood?<br/><br/>Maybe an offensive ability?