Ok, understood. Neither me nor Widow had broken celestial monstrance and so would need retcon it. More as tell that 'deathlord can swipe and kill us by throwing our monstrances down to oblivion but such act would be bat shit insane among even craziest deathlords because it would mean a permament loss of a abyssal'. Meaning they at moment want us badly killed or tortured and transformed to soulsteel so they get our shards free to be deployed to new host.<br/><br/>Only if we would grow become actual personal threat to said deathlord (good enough kill them off permamently), then they would zip asap to monstrance, then drag it to Stygia and throw it down.