<div class="floatright"><strong>Vholdran</strong> (https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283007.msg13921486#msg13921486)<br/>(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2014/148/5/d/guldan_by_nikolaiostertag-d7k49ht.jpg)<br/><div class="spoiler_container"><div class="spoiler_header" onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button">Quick stats</div><div class="spoiler_body"><strong>HP:</strong> 304/304 <strong>AC:</strong>33 <strong>Ini:</strong>+10<br/><strong>Spot</strong>+21, <strong>Listen</strong>+21<br/>True Seeing, Mindsight (100'ft), <br/>Darkvision 60'ft, Low-Light</div></div></div>As Muramasa listed the details in much more firmer format, Vholdran merely nods at the end of it. As Torahime spoke approaching Red Shroud he adds; "One good way get quick audience with Red Shroud is by presenting a new exotic poison, toxin or venom which she had not come across before. She is after all expert of such things and driven towards mastering said art. Also while meeting her try get feeling is she planning usurp her own mother or support her long term and do her coup later and could she tempted work with us. As if she has interests on Razor Throne as well, it would be profitable to position a demon lord into high position than claim said position ourselves. Form a firmer alliance for long term perhaps. Unless yourself are driven to claim throne of queen of succubi that is."<br/><br/>Glancing towards Echidna he adds; "I presume you want the throne for mere use for some project or two than full time control and possession of it, as indeed such throne can be troublesome to work or cooperate with those lawful bend. As thing is obyrith by design and thus works best in hands of chaotic beings, but if we help promote someone else on throne then asking one or two uses of said throne could be part of bargain struck with Red Shroud."