<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=293834.msg14623289#msg14623289">Quote from: Aenon on 11-01-2019, 19:21:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It was in 3.5 too, but most ppl were just ok with moving half speed with no penalty. What was the dream for rogues was to find a way to handle the -20 penalty for sniping :P But getting greater invisibility was easier (and more reliable)...<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>That sounds about right. step 1 to building a rogue 3.5: get UMD. I even remember a few dedicated rogue players being so deep in denial about the rogues build issues that they waved them being able to use all sorts of scrolls and wands around as a useful ability (y'know, compared to casters who could do that all without spending the golds. :P )