<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=158503.msg7329539#msg7329539">Quote from: Dracorion on 04-12-2012, 20:45:28</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Fiiiiine I'll stat up Amber properly.<br/><br/>But yeah, what I already knew before is he had App 4. And I was pretty certain he couldn't have a Dodge MDV lower than 3, so Widow lowered his MDV by 3 because of the Appearance difference. Which is effectively the same thing as her having 3 extra sux.<br/><br/>Yeah, I just checked and no one can have a Dodge MDV lower than 3 unless they take the Weak-willed Flaw at chargen and don't invest at all in Integrity. A heroic mortal with 3/2/2/2 virtues have 5 WP, which added to their 1 Essence and divided by 2 would make 3 DMDV.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Can App bonus reduce it into negative values or is 0 the minimum even if your app would normally bring it lower?