<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=35227.msg1833445#msg1833445">Quote from: Voichin on 27-04-2009, 08:09:44</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">What actually annoys me is not the social combat. It is the great triangle's assumption, that someone will stay there and listen to him. He can throw an unexpected social attack, no one can stop him, but if he decides to use a regular one, more importantly one enhanced with charm, there is a good chance that he will roll for join battle instead of join debate.<br/><br/>Offensive solar charms are rough equivalent to lethal weapons. Using charms to change an ally's mind isn't much more polite than using Heaven Thunder Hammer to move him a step aside and can quite often provoke the same response. The stick in "speak softly and carry a big stick" is there for a reason, and one trying such tricks should better have one.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'm working by the same assumptions. It looks at least strange for a high Compassion character to be using charms to influence allies that he cares about ;).<br/><br/>Of course, since he<strong>botched</strong>his Join Debate roll, and these are long ticks, I wouldn't even need to spend my Willpower to leave - I can do it before his action ever occurs, and with Temperance 1, I have all the IC reasons I need to do so. I don't<em>need</em>to, though, so I will rely on my Conviction instead ;D.<br/><br/>Also, everybody, please from now on, remember what the GM said: you<strong>don't</strong>evaluate your own stunts. The GM does, and she rolls them adding any additional successes to your action and giving you any additional benefits - you only roll the basic skill dice.<br/>Also, consider this a personal favour to me - make your rolls with the dicebot, put a comment what you are rolling for, and link to them in the text, or I wouldn't accept your rolls, personally. You can count on me doing the same for you, and I'm pretty sure Blaze was intending to ask the same, but I don't want to speak from her name :P.