<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=158503.msg7329193#msg7329193">Quote from: AK47 on 04-12-2012, 19:50:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">They only have a 7 in 10 chance of providing an extra sucess and a 1 in 10 chance of providing two.<br/>But what's this? ONE EXTRA DIE? ROLLING THAT SHIT! It's a one :c (http://elliquiy.com/forums/dicebot.php?r=42354)<br/><br/><br/>Also, what was that about getting +3 sux for having a higher apperance than your target? Or was that specific to the Widdow?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Technically it doesn't add successes, it lowers your targets MDV by an amount equal to the difference in APP.  This mechanically works out like extra successes. Appearance doesn't get rolled like Cha or Manip it just modified your and your opponents MDV. The normal Max is +/-3 but we both have enchanting features which removed this limit.<br/><br/>Okay we each got 7 successes right? Assuming you have an app of 5 and serving boy has an app of 4 his MDV is lowered by 1 against you (Which works similar to as if you rolled 8 successes). If his app is 3 and yours is 5 his MDV is -2 (so like 2 extra successes). Widow has an App of 7 giving him a -3 and a -4 to his MDV for him having a 4 or 3 app respectively.