<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=199515.msg9759022#msg9759022">Quote from: Riveda on 24-03-2014, 15:21:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nope. You can get the moves <em>fortunes</em> and <em>leadership</em> but you can't get the followers or holding that make them meaningful unless they're called out on your advancement list.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Sorry about that, but yes, of course I mean the Q's player.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=199515.msg9759022#msg9759022">Quote from: Riveda on 24-03-2014, 15:21:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Nope. You can get the moves <em>fortunes</em> and <em>leadership</em> but you can't get the followers or holding that make them meaningful unless they're called out on your advancement list.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Technically, the rules on advancement on pages 181-182 kinda disagree with you. He could get a gang and Leadership, can get followers, or can even become a Hardholder (I'm not sure whether my presence is blocking this, but I wouldn't mind).<br/>But as I said, I'm not presenting you the case of the Q's player. It's up to the GM, for all I'm concerned.