<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11268168#msg11268168">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 20-05-2015, 08:59:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As far as streamlining special abilities just to run smoother (Since we are on the topic) I was thinking about Lockpicks special ability with energy drain. Its a perfectly find ability, i'm all for it, but I think the execution is a bit cumbersome. It creates a psudo caster level and spell resistance system for overcoming the immunity. That's actually a rather poetic analogy but most such abilities I've seen in D&amp;D tend to work on a system that boils down to "If it doesn't allow a save they get a save, if it allows a save they get a bonus to said save. +5 tends to be a good milestone for the second part." <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I think you might be looking at an earlier version of the ability.  The one on his character sheet currently is just a 120 ft aura that negates both immunity to energy drain and effects that remove negative levels.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also, it may have been updated since I last checked, but did we even cover how it works with undead? They arent immune to energy drain, it affects them but makes them stronger.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Undead just have a flat immunity to energy drain, actually.  They don't get stronger from it, but undead and constructs are also immune to the effects of lockepick's aura.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11268171#msg11268171">Quote from: Mantis Shrimp Prime on 20-05-2015, 09:03:08</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">My idea was there was a layer full of abandoned strongholds where weaker demons hide out and aspiring lords muster forces in order to lead attacks on better real estate.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11268187#msg11268187">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 20-05-2015, 09:15:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Thats the official description, the unofficial and accurate description is "A layer full of abandoned strongholds where weaker and aspiring demon lords muster forces in order to attack any of their peers on the layer that are getting dangerously close to moving on to better real estate, ensuring everyone always fails to do so."<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11268212#msg11268212">Quote from: Mantis Shrimp Prime on 20-05-2015, 09:37:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This layer is known as "The Bucket".<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Actually, that really sounds quite a bit like Pazunia, Abyssal Layer #1 and the 'surface' layer of the Abyss.  Abandoned iron strongholds all over the place, filled with ambitious would-be lords of demonkind who squabble amongst themselves and plot and try to amass enough followers and cultists and souls to take over their own layers of the abyss...<br/><br/>However, it also has portals to other layers all over the place and suffers from infrequent Ba'atezu incursions, so it's an even more fun place than you'd expect. :P<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">(jeez all these requests and alterations... next game I'm doing Archdevils and there's gonna be rules, madame! Rules!)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I should note that Dragon Magazine #360 and #361 have a two-part series of articles in them on the various Dukes and Duchesses of Hell that serve under the nine Archdevils.