<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=121193.msg6627128#msg6627128">Quote from: Ghostraven on 21-07-2012, 08:28:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Actually I looked it up it <span class="bbc_u">is</span> opposed Charisma checks.<br/><br/><strong>Multiple Mental Control Effects</strong><br/>Sometimes magical effects that establish mental control render each other irrelevant, such as a spell that removes the subjects ability to act. Mental controls that don’t remove the recipient’s ability to act usually do not interfere with each other. If a creature is under the mental control of two or more creatures, it tends to obey each to the best of its ability, and to the extent of the control each effect allows. If the controlled creature receives conflicting orders simultaneously, the competing controllers must make opposed Charisma checks to determine which one the creature obeys. <br/><br/>http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm)<br/>Its at the bottom of the page.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Oh well... I still say it doesn't make any sense but that's that. Still I<em>did</em>get a natural 20 so maybe I'll win after all, otherwise I'll just have to give her commands that don't<em>contradict</em>the devil lady's... which doesn't mean she won't be basically useless in the fight anyway if I play my cards right! ;D<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=121193.msg6634783#msg6634783">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 23-07-2012, 00:04:29</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So how much more pre-combat are we waiting on? Ill just go with the group initiative Zaer rolled, I think that's the simplest thing to do. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I think we're just waiting for Zaer to get back from his trip so he can tell me if I succeeded or not and I can make my post and then it should be time for everyone else to go.