<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=298603.msg14616510#msg14616510">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 08-01-2019, 14:15:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">+16 Bluff and +16 Sleight of Hand. ;) <br/><br/>I think she could manage it :P Besides, if she's trying to work out if Kiyoni is lying, she'd have to roll a Sense Motive :P :P<br/><br/>Also...if she only saw the fangs before Kiyoni shot it in the face, how would she see the fang size and eye colour? :P<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>First of all, I could have sworn I had sense motive to see through filthy vampire lies, but guess I did not. I guess she's a bit gullible. But I needed climbing to deal with flying vampires and swimming for flowing water traps...<br/><br/>Bluffs have severe disadvantages and advantages for being more or less believable. I feel like lying about a living person being a vampire to someone that dedicatd a fair bit of their life to dealing with the same, is at least a -5 penalty. 'Why didn't he turn into a gaseous form when you shot him?'<br/>Considering further that Astrid -could-might- detect undead for lingering traces of undeath if uncertain and wouldn't find any, that'd raise to an even higher penalty.<br/><br/>That said, I appreciate that you want to cheer up Astrid so dedicatedly. Perhaps shoot 'em and make sure they fall off of the train from the blast to avoid suspicion. :P