<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=347850.msg16369573#msg16369573">Quote from: TFcommando on 31-12-2022, 20:37:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Vis a vis the above example, some skills are trained-only, which includes Vehicles, so you’d need at least 1 rank in it to use it.  Also, normal civilian driving doesn’t need a roll.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Doh.  :-[  I suspect that was what I was half-remembering: 'routine' driving of common vehicles (including cars)<em>can </em>be attempted untrained (as many drivers on the roads demonstrate!)... but by definition 'routine' doesn't include responding competently to a crisis.  ;)<br/><br/>Still, the general point (mostly) stands, I hope!  What skills a character does and does not have will help to define them.  :D