Well, unrefined doesn't mean ineffective. A barbarian can kill up the wazoo, but is he doing it with style? style=refinement. ;).<br/><br/>Then again, I don't think that Lydia saw any of the kills, just some corpses with their pants about their ankles; Lydia faced 3 guards fully aware of her and armed while she was butt naked with an improvised club. So, in her mind, it's a draw. 5 distracted and probably unaware vs 3 guards who was ready for her.<br/><br/>She does have a slight ego when it comes to swordplay. She would never say anything, but she's allowed to think it. ;)