Ah, damn. We only have one person who has ranks in Climb, and that's Edan, from what I can see.<br/><br/>I guess stealth is out of the question, then. To get people safely in, we'd<em>have</em>to use the hooks. And of the people who have posted, only two (Paan and Tem) that I can see have horses, so charging in and causing a distraction is out of the question.<br/><br/>WELP.<br/><br/>We are, in a word, boned ladies and gentlemen!<br/>The only option is to spam posts until we get that sweet, sweet free skill rank. :P<br/><br/><br/><hr/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14220937#msg14220937">Quote from: GunmetalDreamer on 20-06-2018, 18:08:36</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I wouldn't make that assumption based solely on the visual data.  Traditionally "path with a steep slope" =/= "sheer wall"<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I'm not :P I'm referring to the part where Phantom said:<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You can see the southern cliff face.  There are no defenses there, except for the cliff and emerald wall.  A lot of the rocks on the cliff face do not look like they are able to support weight.  A person with a single rank in climb would realize that such a climb would be very dangerous.  Climbing it would be a DC 20 check.<br/><br/>Cassidy spotted what looks like a back entrance to the ruins here.  It is along the south-western edge of the ruins.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>I asked:<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Does it look like this secret entrance is at the top of that dangerous climb, or is a way around it? Or would we have to move closer to investigate where that passage lets out and what it's like? <br/>Basically, would we have to perform the DC20 Climb Check to get at that secret entrance, or does that secret entrance appear to bypass the climb altogether?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>And Phantom answered:<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You would have to climb to get to the secret entrance.  You could also theoretically swing from the slope and unto the cliff-face near the secret entrance, but there is about a sixty foot gap.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>I might have misunderstood, though >.>