<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11332109#msg11332109">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 08-06-2015, 02:35:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">As Atroxica pointed out some lords minions might be higher then other lords. If anyone sides against me I'm not doing it. As I said the only reason im okay with Lockpick taking this to pvp is because I'm nearly guaranteed to win and he's the one pushing for it.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Possibly, but that (as he sees it) is the extension of being the minion of a higher-ranked lord to begin with; a minion's standing in itself means nothing as long as it serves another. If a more powerful lord decides to let its minions mouth off to weaker lords, it's as if the lord themselves is doing so, which is expected and normal; so if Atroxica's minions are being flippant and rude to a demon lord, that says that either Atroxica can't rein them in, or that she considers herself to be Methu's superior. Plus, it's rude to Vholdran, since it's abusing the guest-right he has granted all of us.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=229541.msg11332122#msg11332122">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 08-06-2015, 02:38:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So what am I supposed to do now? Say fuck you all and move to the hells? Now Im finally getting very upset OOCly. Lockpick and I talked about this earlier and I said it wasn't an OOC problem because of certain factors. Now all thats changing and this is getting very upsetting<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>You and Lockpicke, sure, but this is a group game, and none of the rest of us had any idea this was coming. I'm certainly not going to initiate PvP, in part for OOC reasons and in part because it would be demeaning from an IC viewpoint, but Aerophobos would be very wary of allying with Atroxica under any circumstances for the above reasons.