<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=158503.msg7325438#msg7325438">Quote from: Dracorion on 04-12-2012, 02:56:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Darkling: I tend to interpret seduction as a social attack (though obviously I'm not going to make you roll Join Debate here), meaning you'd roll Charisma or Manipulation for it.<br/><br/>Or, to put it another way, if I let you roll Appearance + Presence to seduce someone, you wouldn't get the extra sux you'd normally get for having higher Appearance. If you roll Charisma + Presence instead, you lose two dice, but you'd get 3 sux for having higher Appearance.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>, Eh, ive never been fond of social combat, its fine if you want to have a elegant debate or something, but for one-off actions a simple roll more than suffices. App+presence is the standard roll for seduction by physical beauty (physical appearance + personal presence), though since i was doing a gallant thing instead of shaking my hips, ill reroll with charisma if you want.<br/><br/>I didnt even count the higher app XD, the automatic success on my roll comes from my assumption of dreams and passion, i get one automatic success on all attempts to invoke my chosen emotional context. I edited the note i had for the charm's description in my sheet to clarify.