<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=121193.msg5564534#msg5564534">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 07-12-2011, 07:18:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am saying that you cannot detect them with normal vision, only in blind sight. They are invisible per say. Blind sight only allows tell numbers, generic size and general shape of them.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'm pretty sure what you are describing is blindsense. I have blindsight which is far more discerning.