<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14222798#msg14222798">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 21-06-2018, 16:50:35</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This is true. The problem is, for Level 1 Characters, DC 20 might as well be a "Try somewhere else, fuckface." xD Hell, even Second Level Wizards have Levitate as a spell, but 1st level characters? It's either grappling hook or go fuck yourself, sonny. I mean...hrm. <br/><br/>Another possibility would be to have the two sneakier characters try to sneak into the ruins from the North Entrance and then dart their way across to lower lines, but neither of the Sneaky Motherfuckers have the Climb Skill to reliably conquer a DC15 Climb Check, which...untrained, is a straight Strength Check, which for Tem, at least, means that she has a 52% chance of failing. And if she fucks up her Sneak Skill, then she has to deal with the entire fortress on her tight, hot ass for several rounds before her mates can get there to back her up.<br/><br/>Basically...Switchback Charge, with a simultaneous grapple hook from a different side is basically our only option here. Unless somebody who can Climb would be willing to take the risk of a DC20 Climb, which even with a +5 Strength and Class Skill would be a 50 / 50 shot.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Edan also has stealth, plus the trait I just took gives a stealth and knowledge planes bonus<br/>Edit: or would skill bonuses for stealth and knowledge planes be considered seperate racial features? They're both listed together under skilled, but adopted only lets you take one of a races traits<br/>Edit edit: just realized it's from a third party book anyways, so nevermind<br/>Edit edit edit: nevermind to the nevermind, it is in the bestiary 2 as a playable race, it just also has a third party book about it specifically.