Yeah, but charm person does have this bit:<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You can try to give the subject orders, but you must win an opposed Charisma check to convince it to do anything it wouldn't ordinarily do. (Retries are not allowed.)</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>So I'm just wondering if it would work the same as Suggestion in that case, just require both a will save and a charisma check to actually work.