Ershin - Toria was indeed at the bottom 'T' (her position after moving under the 2nd, just-dropped druid), I forgot to erase the top one (her previous location.)<br/><br/>(In fact the eagle-druid would've fallen right through Toria's square - hmm, I wonder if there are rules for freefalling creatures hitting other ones. In any case, it doesn't weigh much as an eagle, and she could probably dodge it.)<br/><br/>If she moves toward the east-fleeing archer I believe she would indeed come w/i range of Whelm on this same round. She can see it and the trees don't give the spell an extra miss chance. (Spells with attack rolls, like Scorching Ray, will have miss chances from concealment, or face AC bonuses to targets with cover. Other targeted spells are not impeded by these - although 'total concealment/cover' prevents using them. Area spells can be used against things with total concealment/cover, although the target may turn out to not be in the square where you thought it was.)<br/><br/>btw, is Whelm 'Close' or 'Medium' range? And does it allow Spell Resistance (they don't have it, but sooner or later she might use it on something that does.)<br/><br/>I have a request for everyone - whenever you use a spell or special ability (for the first time) that's not at the SRD, please please post some sort of transcription of the spell description or its relevant parameter. For example, IIRC whelm is the Enchantment school and has the [mind-affecting] descriptor, so for example an Elf or a Monk-3 would have a bonus on the save, which I may not know otherwise.<br/><br/>(It's not that SRD stuff is 'better', but rather than it takes only a few seconds for anyone else to google.)<br/><br/>This may seem like extra work but it actually saves a lot of time in the long run, esp. if you use the spell/ability repeatedly - and may save time for your fellow players, if it prevents me having to ask for extra information before proceeding, or waiting to post until I can reference things myself.<br/><br/>Even banging out a spell description word for word only takes about 2 minutes, and I've done it many times (probably takes less time than it would for someone else to look it up again themselves). And, if you have the manual through certain, shall we say, alternative channels, you may even be able to copy-paste...<br/><br/>Also in my experience this will help your own tactical thinking, as it helps you notice things like whether the spell is in range, etc. And it will help with teamwork, since if your allies know the parameters of the spell they can better act accordingly.<br/><br/>If you expect to use a spell repeatedly, you might put the parameters here in the OOC thread, since it's generally lower-volume and thus easier to find old stuff on.