<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=126755.msg6099163#msg6099163">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 06-04-2012, 00:26:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok, asking for approvals and stuff for my concept; a martial adept sort of demon lord who embraces his martial heritage.<br/><br/><strong>Base creature:</strong> Valkyrie (book of nine swords pg156), a CR 9 creature<br/><strong>Templates:</strong> Monster of Legend (+2 CR, MM II), Vampire (CR +2, MM), +8 HD (+4 CR), Unholy Scion (+3 CR, Heroes of Horror) = CR 20<br/><strong>Class levels:</strong> Swordsage 2/Master of Nine 5<br/><strong>Total HD:</strong> 19 HD as outsider + 7 class levels = 26 HD<br/><strong>Note:</strong> Counts as to be 26 iniator level and knows maneuvers as valkyrie up to 19 level which cannot be refreshed inside combat but it counts towards maneuvers and pregs what valkyrie gains as swordsage/master of nine. Uses unarmed combatant version of swordsage. Uses Tana'ri subtype.<br/><br/>Also question/proposal; in valkyrie's race entry is said their HD count as swordsage levels what comes to gain/progress on maneuvers and they know egual amount of maneuvers what a swordsage would able to ready. However they have only one stance and it's a 7th level. A something which no iniator level 10 person should not possibly possess. I am okay for fact that their list is limited to three disciplines only. Just that they should know more stances based on their swordsage/HD.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>After careful consideration I am going to allow you to stack the racial and class sword sage levels--just stick with the number of stances for the actual two character levels.<br/><br/>Sahariel