<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg14040792#msg14040792">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 02-04-2018, 00:25:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I approve change idea for Connoisseur of Life to turned so that people cannot recover negative energy/drains but those immune to it still suffer HP dmg and it is a vile dmg (meaning uncurable even when outside 60'ft range). <strong>Those slain by vile dmg rise as wraiths.</strong> Vampire spawn and such form with negative energy drain and spawn template can be applied to anyone as norm.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Can we clarify here?<br/>A) Does it have to literally be that Vile damage that kills them? Or any attack that also deals that vile damage?<br/>B) Are we saying they count as being 'killed by energy drain', but can only be raised as Wights, not as Vampires?<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg14040792#msg14040792">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 02-04-2018, 00:25:19</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">A uncapped vampire control asks own ability (like Anansil has). Could connected in creating own brand of vampirerism.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Applying the cap from base Vampire is fine. To be clear though, I wasn't asking to 'break the cap', I just misunderstood that it was written to include the cap. All the arguments presented make perfect sense though, and I'm totally on board!<br/><br/>I also feel a lot better after I found the Monstrous Vampire template from Ghostwalk. I admit to also being a little interested in the whole idea of 'Kas Vampires' -- so I'm a little encouraged in taking a quality (down the road) to create tweaked Methu-Specific kind of Vampire (not an entire rework of the template).<br/><br/>I'm also going to be switching some Feats around once that fight ends!<br/><br/>EDIT: I wrote Wraith -- I meant Wight. Methu can't create Wraiths.