<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=293834.msg14576030#msg14576030">Quote from: lusciousonly on 18-12-2018, 21:08:34</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">They also fall very heavily into points #3 and #5 of the above link. Torture and murder (as opposed to death in combat) are both pretty big-E Evil, especially when done for pleasure. Inflicting pain for the sake of pain is pretty Evil by most interpretations, no? Genuine question in case I am misunderstanding something<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Torture is universally accepted as evil. Pain.. eh, there are masochists, you know. :P<br/><br/>Also, it's nice that Zaer as neutral party kinda echoes what I told you on CE in pm. :P That whole scene paints Harriet as at best Ce, going to Pandemonium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemonium_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)), not the Abyss.<br/><br/>... but paladins are extreme advocates of their alignment.