<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=199515.msg9814136#msg9814136">Quote from: SGTDan on 06-04-2014, 19:07:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">He <strong>wasn't challenging her, just asking her</strong> to respect the the wounded. If she takes it as a challenge then he will roll with it. Ma'am was intended to be respectful not to be a challenge. Warner isn't exactly the people person anyway so it's not surprising he pissed her off. Now I intend to force her hand Cold, any rolls I need for my post?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"Ma'am, get your vultures off the wounded!"</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Is neither a question nor a request. It's a command. He gave her an order in front of her people, and it was an order to do something her people won't like. They're<em>savage</em><-- This is an actual in-game characteristic (p.250). Whether he meant it as a challenge or not, in the eyes of everybody present except possibly Warner, it's a challenge.<br/><br/>I'm going to recommend that you think about what it's reasonable in the world view of a raider/road pirate to do under these circumstances, and then you break out the AW handbook and look at pages 161-162 and 206-207 for future reference.<br/><br/>If you force someone's hand in AW, you suffer the consequences. In this case, the consequences are a shotgun blast at very close range. Forcing someone's hand when they Go Aggro on you automatically means you're going to take harm. Cool doesn't enter into it. You're very lucky, since Rez effectively had the drop on Warner at close range, that he's getting the benefit of his armor bonus instead of taking 3-harm to the face.<br/><br/>And unfortunately, IC, it makes no sense at all for Rez to shoot someone, then smile and walk away while letting him climb into a heavily armored vehicle with a heavy machine gun on it. Especially when that someone is clearly crazy, has threatened her authority, and has a truckload of really dangerous stuff. Appeals to 'enlightened self-interest' in this case come down to 'It was in Rez's self-interest to cooperate with the guy with the big armored truck and the big gun so long as he was useful and helpful and not a threat to her authority. The guy is now separated from his big armored truck and big gun (and his small guns, too, apparently) and a threat to her authority.' She cooperates with Marco because there's serious benefits on both sides. She's got a place to get patched, poked, and relax a little with four solid, hard walls around it, and he gets a bunch of raiders who keep other raiders and hardholders in the vicinity destabilized and less likely to be able to mount an attack on him.<br/><br/>But if Marco gave her a command in front of her people it'd get at least this ugly anyway. Probably uglier since they both have gangs, and while the Vultures' first reflex is to watch the two top dogs fight, Marco's gang is more of a private army and would probably attack, bringing Rez's gang into the mix as well.