<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=126755.msg5617464#msg5617464">Quote from: Snake on 20-12-2011, 21:00:55</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And probably quite a bit of asskissing too. XD<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I thought this said 'asskicking' at first. Not sure which is more appropriate.<br/><br/>Incidentally, which MM vampire were you using? The examples are a Vampire template on a 5th level fighter and a Vampire template on a 9th level monk/4th level shadowdancer, plus the Vampire Spawn as a creature of its own. None of them have the option of advancing by undead HD instead of class levels.