<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=293834.msg14670249#msg14670249">Quote from: Roleplay Frog on 02-02-2019, 21:06:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The DC is pretty insane. The basis is 15+ spell grade as you all know, now two things to keep in mind. Per raw, the feats do not offer any changes to the DC, but also, per raw, you can only identify a spell at all when you somehow observe it or it's effects. That latter bit I find a bit wonky, just slap a greater invisibility on and you are protected from all countermagic? Is kinda meh.<br/><br/>So rather, when confronted with it, I houserule a flat +5 to the spellcraft DC, so for 2 feats I put that at a 25+spell grade, pretty impossible for low level npc's and a hard bargain for everyone else, feel thats fair as spells -are- powerful. I am aware you are likely not going to use it for mean nonsense buuut..<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>In all those years, I have only seen the counterspell option used once....by me... :P But yeah sounds fair. Probably won't matter tho as I can only silent still 2nd lvl spells, so it isn't really abusable.