<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=233176.msg11499903#msg11499903">Quote from: FragarachZ on 30-07-2015, 09:04:52</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm with you hellrazor, partially. I'm not a historian so I may not use those terms accurately, so I apologize and ask that you look at the intention behind them. As I said it was not my intention to cause drama with this, only to keep a game in an age of information control, secrecy, censorship, opression through fear, from quickly degenerating into people factually discussing lore that even in the old republic pretty much only jedi masters dealt with.<br/>As for my bias, I am a huge fan of both jedi and sith, but I especially wanted to play a dark times game where they wouldn't be around for a change and see what the everyman or a kid raised in the opression of the empire was going through (which is why I decided against the force sensitive character idea I had ultimately). If you want I will discuss different layers and interpretations of the movies with you in IM but I don't want to bog down the game with my alarm bells having gone off any further, so again sorry. Also, trying not to turn this thread into a geek debate on star wars lore because there's enough of those already :P<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>No worries, healthy spirited debate is what I live for and why I became a historian. One of my mentors in one of my minors (philosophy) had two rules in his classes, 1. Understand before trying to be understood and 2. It is OK to agree to disagree, but do so agreeably. I try to live by those rules to this day---I'm human a fail sometimes--and it is a shame more people can''t seem to. So I am glad folks seem to adhere to them.<br/><br/>And I did not mean you in particular even non-historians can benefit from defining their terms, though in my line it is critical. I once sat on a jury for three days and the main bone of contention was the world knowingly in the indictment. We were not allowed access to outside sources, even a dictionary and everyone on the jury had a slightly different nuance on the meaning of the word. That experience and the discussions we had thought me a lot about the process of defining terms. We had to learn how each person defined the word and make our case for why we though it did or did not apply, some minds were changed over those 3 days--mine included.<br/><br/>That said, I see what you mean and agree, no one should be talking about deeper Sith Lore as you say, but I have no issue with them being mentioned. Even my character as a former youngling only has views of the Sith she would have learned in Jedi History classes, which were biased and partially wrong given the belief that the Sith were extinct.