<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">And as for the warform question, no, I wouldn't particularly mind you attacking me in your war form if I knew you could only do it twice a scene without using charms. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Social combat is not limited to twice a scene without using Charms.  You can easily find another angle to come at the issue, and continue to force them to spend Willpower or accede to what you want.<br/><br/>Consider this example:  Cynis Kage really wants a presence in Cynis Sakura's vineyard operations, which he knows is an Intimacy of hers.  He has the upper hand and the better stats, so starts off by negotiating trade rates to get his hands on her raw product.  What he proposes isn't favorable to Sakura, so she spends two willpower to completely rebuff his suggestions.  Normally, he'd have to back off, as she's obviously not going to budge.  But he gets a bright idea, and starts pressuring her to build a heliotrope tower in order to improve her facilities, and surprise surprise, he has all the materials she would ever need to do so and can offer her a discount on the maintenance teams, which he also owns.  She refuses, and spends another two willpower.  That's now<em>four </em>Willpower drained in pursuit of the same goal without needing to resort to Charms.  And if Kage can find yet another angle to come at her with before she realizes she's in way over her head and retreats from social combat, he's eventually going to get what he<em>really </em>wants.  All on the merits of his base stats alone.