<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=126755.msg6136813#msg6136813">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 14-04-2012, 12:55:12</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok, I am fine with demon prince and archdevil templates. Just note that everyone gets tana'ri subtype AND the template. Common template features between tana'ri and obyrith is the resistance and one elemental immunity, poison immunity and telepathy. So include those things to both templates.<br/><br/>Tana'ri get summon monster which is usable once per day (summon other demons) but obyrith get dozen interesting stuff; immunity to mind-affecting effects, Form of Madness, HD based FH value and True Seeing as constant effect. So no wonder obyrith is lot better subtype.<br/><br/>So everyone should get one unique ability which replaces one template or subtype granted ability (like my familiar charm vs all valkyries replaces standard unholy scion feature). Then extra stuff from demon prince template.<br/><br/>If we follow the format from obyrith subtype then one feature must be somekind non-elemental based immunity (check exchisting immunities from Fiendish Codex from demon princes to get ideas), another must be somekind FH or Regenration (Regenration is powerful so it must be less than provided FH and could be optional choice between the two). Then there must be somekind of common 'power' shared between all player demon princes with the template (like fear aura or other effect meant hinder or harm foes) and then finally a passive constant effect which is eguilevant of 5th level spell or lower (a non-stat increasing self-buff, not bull's strenght but something like true seeing or haste etc).<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><br/>The Demon Lord and Arch Devil templates will contain all the features of Tanar'ri and the Baatezu templates--plus abilities to offset the power of the Obyirth templates.<br/><br/>I will post both once I have completed them. Like I said if you want to submit possible templates that's fine, just PM them to me.