Ahaa, I see. I do know Kimbery is along with the gang as among Lintha's there is one infernal who serves her but he is perhaps too devoted to her to be much use (her own mistake really when she designed his urge). But I am aware other urges or even outright charms can come from yozis who were not the original five who created infernals. As reason for even share charms for infernals is that if they become inventive with given charm; the knowlegde of newly evolved/invented charm transfers to the yozi who taught the charm.