<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=324562.msg15577056#msg15577056">Quote from: Blinkin on 31-08-2020, 04:31:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ok, so it takes 2x con before a con or fortitudecheck, for an average NPC, that's 20 rounds... too long to ever make it worth the effort. That drops to half in combat, so 10 rounds. In a prison with active guards? But, a garrot does 1D6 per round, so it should take last time... of course, if the guards are level 7ish, the HP will be in the upper 40's... 8 or 9 rounds to kill. and I'm just trying to knock her out for a couple of minutes.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Yeah<br/><br/>I’d treat it as trying to breath without a chance to hold your breath but it still takes took long that way. I’m not sure of a better way to do it.