<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=297867.msg14593468#msg14593468">Quote from: Phaia on 29-12-2018, 00:22:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay...I can see I am way behind the curve. I love the setting but last time I played was in early 4th with some 3rd!<br/>Years ago! I only have a PDF copy of the core book and Run and Gun. <br/>I have been reading a lot and finding some websites that help a bit but there is so much I am behind on like what Kill Code is... a source book I am guessing!<br/><br/>I have played with several builds but cannot get anywhere near the dice pools I see. I mean wow 25 dice on defense is a huge tank! I was thinking 12 was good!<br/>I am not even sure how to get the 16-18 dice pools all the sites say should be able to get at char gen. I am hitting 14-15 with specialties and a non essence smart link!<br/><br/>Oh let's not even talk about how the core is laid out! I have it twice and still have to go searching!<br/><br/>Anyway thanks for listening I may just drop to deep standby and figure things out. <br/><br/>Phaia<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I'm an SR fan from back in 1st ed, so I feel your pain.  I found Chummer easy to use as a character creator and it does all the calculations for you.  Don't let the numbers be the deciding factor.  You should consider roleplaying more important than (dice)rollplaying.<br/>