*sigh* That<em>does</em>tend to be a problem with trap - the more you try to make them  androgynous and slender, the more they start to appear to skirt the shota territory.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=267119.msg13294776#msg13294776">Quote from: RedPhoenix on 23-06-2017, 05:40:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also welcome back AA, sorry about your father. :(<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Thanks Red.  It's a little bit tough, because I'm more used to seeing him looking strong and healthy.  He had a stroke, which has given everyone quite the scare, but there doesn't appear to be any lasting damage, so there's that.  Hopefully now, he'll take everyone's advice to start taking life easy (he's a workaholic)