<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=303515.msg14847342#msg14847342">Quote from: Odanrav on 03-05-2019, 17:37:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Maybe we use that logic for all Tieflings? Like the innate hellfire within them makes it very hard for semen from other races to survive. To extrapolate Tieflings subtract instead of add their modifiers when being mated by a different race? So for Orlith her Fertility Check might be 1d20-4 (Doubled less fecundity)-Proficiency Bonus and her Acceptance Check 1d20-Constitution Modifier-Proficiency Bonus. That means even with a 19 or 20 it would require a DC 20 Conception roll by Isabella to knock her up. <br/><br/>Also, DC 10 on Acceptance checks seems low to me, so I might raise that to 15, or eliminate it entirely. Not sure. Then again, that would mean Orlith would have to roll a 19 or 20 in order to keep the pregnancy.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Well the reason I suggested having a -9 on fertility checks, was so that anything besides a critical would be infertile entirely. I don't want her to be entirely infertile, but I still want it to be near impossible through normal means, keeping the initial idea in tact. It's not really about her race in general, I wanted to be a specific condition for Orlith. Given that you're giving Isabella buffs to her conception rolls, I don't think it'd be too hard for her to beat a DC 20 check, especially given how much sex the rp will involve in general. So I wanted it to be hard for her to even get to roll in the first place, which is why she would want some magical means to remove said restriction. I think trying to factor in all the extra math of bonuses and ability scores is unnecessary, at least in Orlith's case, because it's a very specific situation.