Interesting.  I see what your saying.  I, in fact mean something a bit more extreme than either of your descriptons.  I myself like to minimize my character's weaknesses.  But I have always considered a min/maxed character to be a bundle of stats.  Not a strong character, but a character who has reached the theoretical limit of a game system's power.  One who has taken advantage of every badly worded feat and spell to become a Demi-god, so much more powerful than the othe PC's as to make them feel like his cohorts.<br/><br/>I've seen it happen, and it's sad.  I prefer strong characters.  Not Demi-gods.  (Unless everyone is a Demi-God, trying to take Olimpus back from the Titans!)<br/><br/>Hmm not a bad idea, have to remember that one.<br/><br/>And Isengrad, anyone who can cook is OK in My book.<br/>XD