Yeah, lets not and say we didn't.<br/><br/>Quen's diplomacy check would be a straight D20, no abbility bonus, no class skill, no ranks... not even a random mod... We may not need much... hell, a good intimidate roll may do it.<br/><br/>Please don't remind me of an elf who decided to attack an old man in an inn because he dared to think himself equal to an elf when he spoke to said elf...<br/><br/>And if that came out clear, I have some swamp-side property in New Mexico for sale.... yeah, it's different than ocean front, huh?