<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14240511#msg14240511">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 29-06-2018, 04:38:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Please don't do stuff like this.  Now I have to review the rules to determine whether this can be done, and that's just a waste of my time.  If you're going to do something wonky, please cite the rules that you're using.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Please excuse me. I didn't have my rulebook here, and the last time I played PF, I guess my GM was a lot more casual about the time frame for 'bluff.' Obviously some take a lot more time than others. A short yell or communication in PF is usually considered a free action.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14240536#msg14240536">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 29-06-2018, 04:49:31</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">So, there seems to be two different things that Shani is doing in her action.  She is trying to (1) deceive the goblins and (2) convince the goblins to flee.  So...<br/><br/>Based on the rule, it seems that Shani will be able to convince the goblins that there is a large force coming up the west entrance.<br/><br/>All right.  For this analysis, this is the closest rule I could find.  Because the goblins would be hostile and the action requires at least one minute of continuous interaction, the bluff to convince the goblins to flee will be unsuccessful.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I was thinking 'large force' was a reason to flee, not a separate issue in and of itself.<br/><br/>The point of yelling in Goblin was in hopes that the goblins would believe it was another goblin, in which case their hostility shouldn't matter. This was not an attempt to deceive someone into buying a bridge in Brooklyn or even to pass a guard by bullying him into thinking you're a higher-ranking noble, just a shout from an unseen source in their known, used language in hopes of sowing confusion.<br/><br/>You are the GM, of course, and I will abide by your decision in all these matters.