<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=93696.msg4086479#msg4086479">Quote from: Kate on 04-01-2011, 16:52:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">asssuming 0th gen is the first ... 1st gen is who they made and so on (correct me if i am wrong) then is 3rd or 4th ok ?<br/><br/>concerning points please all adopt whichever points has the highest that is already posted and adopt that - if some beleive its unrealistic or too over powered ... please tell me (remember I am not adopting the system mechanics only be using chararacter sheets for comparitive skill levels)<br/><br/>ok all chat tomorrow oxo<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>caine is 1st gen anything  between 1 and 4 is to powerful for most pcs, most pcs start at 13th gen then can take points (up to 5 in generation to lower it) however if we're playing with the elder rules there's also an age background and a elder generation background age gives you bonus points for how long you've been alive  at the cost of some of your base 15 bonus points and  imposes a -1 penalty on your path per dot of age, elder generation starts at 10th and otherwise works the same as regular gen, but you gain powerful enemies with that with 5 dots of elder gen having 2 major enemies and scores of minor ones.