<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg14037562#msg14037562">Quote from: Kunoichi on 31-03-2018, 05:23:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I thought the same thing, but looking over the official source for the Vampire Lord template (http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mm/20021018a), the section on Create Spawn doesn’t actually contain any language for removing the HD cap from the regular Vampire template.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>There is nothing written about removing the cap, but there previously<em>was</em>no cap (for Vampire Slaves) -- because a normal Vampire doesn't have control over any Vampires they make (only Spawn). That made me read the new text about how Vampires are enslaved until the Master dies as if it was establishing a new rule, and less about transferring the previous Spawn Cap to full Vampire Slaves.<br/><br/>Honestly, I admit it's fuzzy -- I'd respect either decision; I could see the ruling going either way. With the whole generational vampire control work-around/shenanigans anyway -- removing the cap just sort of keeps things more thematic/interesting.