<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=332893.msg15861548#msg15861548">Quote from: ererruz on 21-05-2021, 18:43:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The 'first' was only meant chronologically as a way to give some kind of 'importance' to the connection they might share -- even if, religion-wise, it bears no importance, I think it adds some kind of layer to the relationship.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Ya, that's what I was thinking too. First in the chronological sense. I think it does add a good layer to the relationship. But Zhar definitely has no consideration for seniority among his children. Time is but another dimension.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=332893.msg15861548#msg15861548">Quote from: ererruz on 21-05-2021, 18:43:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I imagine deception will be our main tactics to win over new worshippers for Zhar -- would you say it makes sense that might also somehow fit into one of His commandments? I was thinking about my cleric's domains and would like to take the Trickery/Deception domain/subdomain combo but I want it to fit the message that Zhar wants his cultists to spread. There's a number of ways Deception can be worked into His portfolio -- for example, "deceive the heathen for they are not worthy of knowing His infinite wisdom".<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I think trickery/deception could definitely be one of His domains. His children will have to be quite clandestine for now, so general subversion would definitely fit his portfolio. And lying to others is definitely a helpful strategy He would approve of for His children.<br/><br/>Zhar doesn't have conversion as a primary goal. He doesn't care if other gods are worshiped or if people don't believe in Him. That said, He does desire power, and having many followers to do His bidding does help attain that goal.<br/><br/>So I don't think, "Deceive the heathen because they're unworthy," but I definitely think he would agree with something more like, "Deceive the astray, so that they may realize their insignificance, and submit to Zhar's unfathomable wisdom."<br/><br/>Zhar's domains:<br/>- Chaos<br/>- Protean<br/>- Madness<br/>- Truth<br/>- Trickery<br/>- Deception<br/>- Innuendo<br/>- Void<br/>- Dark Tapestry<br/>- Water<br/>- Oceans