<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg13995143#msg13995143">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 13-03-2018, 01:16:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">From my perspective I don't see how it could be when we have beings like Anasil, Vholdran, Echidna, and Nyag'thon.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>You drastically overestimate me. My death attack has a saving through and doesn't kill anyone immune to death effects, which accounts for most bosses, people who use items, and clerical magic users. If they are immune it's a short duration slow, countered by either making your save, being immune to slow, or just being hasted. In addition of you make the save you're immune to the attack for 24 hours. Most bosses will at the very least make the initial save, becoming immune, if they aren't in the first place.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg13995143#msg13995143">Quote from: PaleEnchantress on 13-03-2018, 01:16:22</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">. <br/>How are your AOE abilities? If something affects his square he just has total concealment, not automatic immunity. <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Ignoring the spell resistance this is what I have.<br/><br/>I can cast a 10d6 fireball, averaging 36 damage, a limited number of times vs an assassin with at least 30 resistance to all elements so any saving throw, evasion or not, renders it doing no damage and on a failure 6 entire damage. I could empower it but that's not adding a lot.<br/><br/>I can hope to hit with maybe a black tentacle spell, although the damage wouldn't be able to penetrate and he could teleport out of it more than likely. He's got a pact on him that if he isn't already immune to stun I could try to do that but the pact would trigger and anything he has to shift into the undead or construct ability he as undoubtedly prepped for his real target and he'll be immune to the stun as well.<br/><br/>I could summon undead and to swarm but the destructive retribution has a set reflex save dc of 15 and he's got evasion if not improved evasion. My strongest undead I can summon is a CR 5 creature that has to roll a natural 20 to hit him and then beat the 50% miss chance and then somehow get past any DR/ability drain immunity/energy drain immunity he is sure to have.<br/><br/>I could try a shadow evocation I doubt anything direct will work on someone who thrives in the actual shadow plane, plus the 1-2 saves he gets for both disbelief and whatever the native save for the spell imitated is.<br/><br/>If he can turn  himself into an undead I can try to spam Command Undead at him to try to get him to run away if I can beat his SR, will save, and opposed charisma check. If he can turn into a construct then I'm down to swinging my sword at him and hoping he dies.<br/><br/>If he starts hitting me with greater dispels or removes the glitterdust I'm going to try to hit him with then I'm basically fucked and will have spent this fight being unable to do anything meaningful in all 3 combats considering the fortress cannon blast is a thing for minion clearing that any of us could trigger.<br/><br/>At this point I'm basically staring at cohorts and minions being more useful than my character in basically every way from single target to AoE. Other people's leadership feats are more useful than my character.<br/><br/>The /minion/ casting an empowered meteor swarm outstrips the ability I have to even do damage to freaking dretches thanks to the resist everything 30 in both damage potential, area, and spell level.<br/><br/>My undead summon/control stuff at this point seems to make fun narrative device but being the person who 'just kills things cause minions can't hurt me but does it slower than everyone else' that doesn't even really need to roll makes me a glorified NPC.<br/><br/>That's basically what it feels like to me right now.