Thrown weapons still use str, but weapons like bows and whatnot would apply dex to dmg. Still have to take a lot of feats to make ranged attacks useful, like precise shot to avoid the -4 modifier.<br/><br/>Also for the rogues case, they knew that you were tricky with your hands, due to some reputation on your part. They made sure in your case that your bindings are wiggle proof, and even tied your arms to your ankles, hogged tied. So even taking 20 wouldn't get you out by your own devices.<br/><br/>I didn't get into that much detail with the original post, since Kate is going to free you anyway, if she chooses too or not. It's rather irrelevant.