<hr/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg13996913#msg13996913">Quote from: LizzieV on 13-03-2018, 17:53:32</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><br/><br/>I've never looked at a skeleton/zombie demon things because a Merilith is an outsider and doesn't leave a body so it's not eligible to cast animate on and probably loses whatever half-fire-elemental does and I never looked at great wyrm zombies because in the srd both skeletons and zombies have a maximum hit dice of 20 so having a huge 27hd corpse either can't be turned into one or only generates a 20 hd corpse.<br/><br/>Plague of undeath sla isn't as useful to me because when it was handed to me it was tossed with a special limit on how much I could control with it so either I'm not understanding what the intent with it was or something else is going on with it. Normally with me animate dead is the better option because I have a special quality specifically to break the control limit on how many undead I can command so I can have an actual undead army where plague of undeath imposes a strict hit dice limit as it was given to me.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Outsiders do leave corpses.  Even if they respawn on their home plane they leave a body.  Outsiders make really good undead since they have high stats per HD.   There was an odd table printed in FC1 that was supposed sed to be an interesting thing to add to demon deaths,  but it really just had the likly unintended effect of fucking necromancers over.  Mariliths make amazing skeletons,  especially with the scissor sword . I'm sure the DMS will ignore that odd flavor table when it's explained that it does nothing but screw anasil.<br/><br/>Dragon zombies have their own template that not only exceeds the normal zombie HD cap but let's them keep their breath weapon.  Check out Draconomicon for details.<br/><br/>For your stronghold spaces make sure you have a desecrated shrine.  That HP bonus stacks with corpsecrafter.<br/><br/>Zaer,  you never answered if Famines eyes came back yet.