<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=297867.msg14609274#msg14609274">Quote from: Conundrum on 05-01-2019, 03:54:11</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You can offer build advice.<br/><br/><strong>For me your average human has a 6-7 in what they do.  3 from their attribute, and 3 from being trained to do their daily job. </strong> Something like an HRT is looking at more like a 5 in the attribute and 7-8 in the skill.<br/><br/>So having around 12 at chargen I feel is usually fine.  You should usually be able to get a little more karma before butting heads with an HRT.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>For the bolded bit, I feel both camaraderie and love towards our GM.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=297867.msg14609237#msg14609237">Quote from: Phaia on 05-01-2019, 03:30:47</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Wow!  :o<br/>17 dice! I push to get 14 unless I use improved ability improved attribute! Very nice! why would ya need more then one passs to drop a target...burst fire or full auto]<br/><br/>I thought about taking automatics instead of pistols. I may still but I really liked the 8dv of the heavy pistols and the colt agent and other colts.<br/>I can do +3 acc [enhanced acc, laser sight +personizaled grip]<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Since you're on my mind and in mention, the easiest way of getting some extra dice is to take Attribute Boost Agi, and only one rank. It rolls rank+mag in dice, hits raise your attribute up to the normal limits in this case, it lasts, and the drain is based on your ranks. If you have the karma and nuyen, I'd suggest getting it as a qi focus. That way you can turn it off and get rid of it for minimal cost if you ever build up to the point where you don't need it.<br/><br/>Berserk's also a not bad combat boost, but it's harder to pre-load any.