<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg14013727#msg14013727">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 20-03-2018, 18:44:42</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I say the wording indicates the event creating either bone or corpse templated undead is <em>accidental</em>. So overall I allow the templates but you need sort influence the chance it making such creature (there is no hard coded method but I say base chance is 10% and grows based on bolstering the spell, environment or ways how body is treated before spell is cast and doing rituals etc).<br/><br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Zaer, Read the Templates in the BOVD. Bone and Corpse creatures can be made with Create Undead spell. (NOT Animate Dead). They are made purposefully like any other undead type from create undead. SO it's not random.  *However* like any other create undead type you dont control them. At least not automatically like you do with animate dead. There is the big issue of why Anasil wouldnt want to make a corpse creature some things because they will remember she killed them (if she did) and are free willed intelligent undead.<br/><br/>I suggest you review that and, if you please, let LizzyV know how it actually works. One thing with your random 10% chance of making such a being, thats odd because bone and corpse creatures arent made from Animate Dead, the spell shell be casting they are made from create undead. Something most necromancers dont cast at all. At least not very often. So if you go with the % chance thing are you changing it so bone and corpse creatures are made with animate dead, and not create undead like it says? If they are from animate dead are they automatically loyal and do they count as part of the d hd per CL of undead Anasil can control from Animate dead? (as it explains in the animate dead spell)<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=283008.msg14013754#msg14013754">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 20-03-2018, 19:04:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I wasn't talking about outsiders - Pale's mention of elementals just made me wonder about stuff like Fire Elementals, who don't leave bodies behind no matter where they die.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Well Zaer answered the question you asked, but I thought i'd make it clear. I meant a Marilith with the fire elemental template which is an outsider with the fire subtype.