<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14220819#msg14220819">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 20-06-2018, 17:03:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">When I said "camp," I meant where the rest of the party was presently located.  The camp is approximately 500 feet from the southern end of the ruins of the Emerald Spire.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Ah, ok...and we've gone around the tower and are looking at it from the North? So we are currently on the other side of the ruins from the rest of the part?<br/><br/>(So it goes<br/><br/>Us<br/>I<br/>I<br/>I<br/>Ruins<br/>I<br/>I<br/>I<br/>Party<br/><br/>?<br/><br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14220819#msg14220819">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 20-06-2018, 17:03:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If there are no sentries on the towers, and there doesn't appear to be any, it's conceivable that a party could sneak up without being spotted until arriving to the top-most square of the switchback image.  Afterwards, there is absolutely no cover.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>By "Topmost" you basically mean "Grid A2" on that picture, right? Just making sure :-)<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14220819#msg14220819">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 20-06-2018, 17:03:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">You can see the southern cliff face.  There are no defenses there, except for the cliff and emerald wall.  A lot of the rocks on the cliff face do not look like they are able to support weight.  A person with a single rank in climb would realize that such a climb would be very dangerous.  Climbing it would be a DC 20 check.<br/><br/>Cassidy spotted what looks like a back entrance to the ruins here.  It is along the south-western edge of the ruins.(https://i.imgur.com/iri4HAU.png)</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Does it look like this secret entrance is at the top of that dangerous climb, or is a way around it? Or would we have to move closer to investigate where that passage lets out and what it's like?<br/>Basically, would we have to perform the DC20 Climb Check to get at that secret entrance, or does that secret entrance appear to bypass the climb altogether?<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14220819#msg14220819">Quote from: PhantomPistoleer on 20-06-2018, 17:03:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">This stair case is in utter disrepair.  It would require a 15 DC climb check to climb it.  However, it's a more direct method, and there is plenty of cover-to-cover for a stealth approach.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>That's the northern staircase, right?<br/><br/><br/>Also, additional question:<br/><br/>On any of the aforementioned climbs, how easy do we think it would be to stealthily throw a grappling hook and rope up there, thereby making the climb easier?