<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=157135.msg7251909#msg7251909">Quote from: victoria4 on 20-11-2012, 16:56:05</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I see - I just looked at the differences, and yes, I can see that.  Although from the extensive discussion on mirror images, I see the "adjacent" requirement in Pathfinder introduces some silliness, though I understand the need for something like it.<br/><br/>Asking as someone new to cleave, do I have to declare the cleave before beginning my swing (which makes sense), or after seeing the first blow hit (which could, ambiguously, be interpreted from the wording at d20pfsrd.org)?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Pretty sure it's used as a standard action, so you have to declare your use of it before rolling - if you use a standard, you can't make a full attack.