I know that part, but I was hoping that if it's possible to talk them into it at a penalty without magic,<em>charm</em>would help somehow.<br/><br/>Oh well.  Plan B is to train some kind of animal to do it.  After all, there are no Charisma worries if the delivery boy is a critter than has no idea it's about to die!<br/><br/>...is there a magma vent anywhere nearby?  We might have better luck recreating Project: Fuck The World.