@Victoria4: I agree, to me, even spell casting while in ferocity is kinda iffy thematic wise. Spells needing consentration and such, but RAW lets you get a way with it. Same goes with stabilizing Feral orc.. pretty insane rule-loop but.. And the could actually try heal checks to stabilize themselves ... making it even more broken.<br/>And Ferocity is not an feat anymore, it is an racial EX ability.<br/><br/>@FragarachZ: Im sure no one of us though differently. They are disposable goons nothing more.<br/><br/>Anyway, more action less iffy ruling. And PLAY MORE GAMES!<br/><br/>