<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=263393.msg13167310#msg13167310">Quote from: Laughing Hyena on 01-05-2017, 03:30:38</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">First check is for anyone with a martial class, to make a wisdom check with <span class="bbc_u"><em>proficiency</em></span> or survival check as an alternative.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Um... Did you muddle up Pathfinder with 5th edition DND... What IS a proficiency in pathfinder? Base Attack? A skill?<br/><br/>Perception 10, Proficinecy+Wis 13 + my proficiency... 15 if it's Base Attack.<br/>17 on Craft Armor - I'd like to know a little more about the bodies and the armor they wear. Since that will establish a certain level of wealth, insignias and just the materials used. Also... It helps with Maxine's inner monolouge. So help me create a more creative, detailed post with a few details? @paws@