<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=328236.msg15698366#msg15698366">Quote from: RSGAlex on 28-12-2020, 19:23:01</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The actual major loss is that you need to have at least some system mastery or a good amount of focus to not spread too thin. Having to do any assensing in person and in the meat can easily be taken care of with a spirit or watcher (and govi in that last case). Plus while you can't quite chase an astral form, if it's sticking around enough you can zap with a mana spell and that was usually the better choice in Astral Combat if you didn't have very specific builds. And if you go by FA's strange changes, there's the enchanting loss. It takes too much investment for Advanced Alchemy and most of the tricks that you can do with regular alchemy and a Vault of Ages are just too swingy. <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Playing a street thug that tries all the stuff she can and uses what works so losing alchemy/enchanting aren't to me too big a loss. And while coming back from a projection to find ones body put in odd poses/situations could be amusing I'm not one for astral travel no matter the system which is why I started looking at Mysad in the first place.<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=328236.msg15698523#msg15698523">Quote from: Annaamarth on 28-12-2020, 21:45:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Mystic adept is usually weaker early with more potential for power later. I usually go pure Mage for stronger earlier cast and summon, and to ve able to astral with my spirithomies, but either way works. When I build MystAd, I tend to emphasize one half or the other and treat the other side as long-term growth potential. Unrelated, you should look at the Euphoria spell. For lewding.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Given you keep all your spells and such how are the pure mages stronger casters? Especially since Cyber's going to cut down a point of magic already. As for Euphoria... Oh yeah. That, Chaos World, and Swarm are three was thinking about. Just gotta figure something out for sustaining since SURGE III takes up so much karma.<br/><br/><br/>@RSGAlex Seems like going with stream may be better for your character? Especially with chrome and/or plans to get more chrome. The decker option... well looks like we all get good commlinks for free so we should be fairly safe if we're not stupid about it?<br/><br/>