<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=108508.msg4788399#msg4788399">Quote from: Genbu83 on 15-06-2011, 05:08:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">They are good, though I don't see the cause for the cost of two channeling atempts. Most Channeler's are charsima starved anyhow. Also these feats are a free class feature of the holy vindicator. So yes getting them independantly of the class is nice, but the cost is a bit high. Removing the two uses would make them more useful, considering you already have selective channeling as a prerequisite. Though these feats are nice, you could technically do the same thing by taking the the shape spell like ability from one of the old monster manuals. Overal it's useful if you're going to focus on being a cleric or a channeler, but at the same time, that same channeler should be nueatral or worship a nuetral deity or cause, take versitile channler to channel positive and negative then go holy vindicator and keep taking channeling feats.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Thanks.. I only have like another person who plays Pathfinder in real life. The input I got from him was that the shape would make it VERY helpful in a fight..