Aw.  Looks like Graak the troll wizard won't be making a comeback in this game.  (Oh well, giants aren't Pokemon anyway.)<br/><br/>Personally I always felt that the cap for nonassociated levels getting the discount should just be "pre-advancement CR," period.  It seemed less troublesome.  And hey, monsters already get to have CR when players have LA (*shiver, twitch*), so there's no real reason why it should have to work for both.<br/><br/>Anyway.  Currently I'm thinking of going with a human RoW fighter, with mastery of the spiked chain and truncheon.  Are RoW feats allowed?