<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=289327.msg14264141#msg14264141">Quote from: Vergil Tanner on 10-07-2018, 12:40:48</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Yhup. Unless you're using something like the Daylight spell, Darkvision is your only option for seeing further than five feet.<br/><br/>Unless you have a fuckton of torches that you can just layer the ground with, I suppose. :P<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I thought that Darkness spells 100% quelled non-magical light? So if you're 5' from a torch, you can see the torch, but if you're 10' from it, it isn't generating light at all so you don't get any benefit from its presence. So layering the ground with torches would do nothing. And even weirder, because the torch isn't technically a light source inside a Darkness spell, low-light vision doesn't help you, either. It doesn't let you see 10'. You're still stuck seeing only 5'.<br/><br/>Or am I misunderstanding?<br/><br/>I confess I've never seen this many area disadvantages stacked against the players in a game before. Darkness plus difficult ground is nasty. :) But then again, there are a lot of us.