<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=47567.msg2266526#msg2266526">Quote from: WyzardWhately on 23-09-2009, 23:45:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm pretty sure that the Troll part, by itself (sans the half-dragon template), means that you take Six, which is your hit dice, and then <em>add the plus five level adjustment</em>, to get an effective starting level of 11.  That sounds sick, but it's actually kind of reasonable given your massive Str. bonus, regen, rend attack, etc. etc.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>That's news to me.  I've always done it this way (ever since 3.0 came out).