Draiss nodded, and then gestured to the notes. "That is why I wanted those. All beings, with few exceptions, are conditioned to 'go with the flow'. You can't have a discussion without some people holding back their thoughts to avoid offending or upsetting someone else. I am hoping that this discussion can avoid that. What is going to completely upset everyone is that everyone is correct, and wrong. We are correct in our understandings of our perceptions, but I don't think anyone, including Serena and myself, gods of magic if one will forgive the hubris in that, really understand what magic is.<br/><br/>So, first things first, lets see if we can determine what the most basic idea of magic is. We could try and start elsewhere, but that would be building off the assumption that our basic idea is correct. And I want to avoid that as much as possible."<br/><br/>He paused and then sighed in frustration. "What I really want is to get a bunch of beings together that don't care for each other, and want to one up each other, but most of the other gods seem content to ride the status-quo. I am not. Of course, part of the problem with that idea is keeping the bloodshed to a minimum, and as Mordin put it, keep everything attached that came in attached. so, I distracted myself. So, what is magic in its most basic sense?<br/><br/>I also want to hear from the others, since most of you only touch magic as a secondary or even peripherally, I am hoping that all of you can give us so-called experts a view we otherwise wouldn't have."