Draiss got a feeling V'elen was being itself to the other one, and while most of the exchange didn't translate, he did get the impression that it considered the E'Lune to be a sniveling coward, and needed to take a few risks to get ahead. It was also summarizing its notes on what the other beyonders were doing, and while Draiss didn't get the full report, he got the impression that V'elen was no longer as impressed as it had been with the constructs. And it hadn't been impressed at any point. The rest of the conversation was simultaneously dragging and whizzing by, but he shook it off, before grabbing on the main point he could hold onto. "If you have a problem with materializing, then just use a host like myself and V'elen. Of course, you would have a great deal more time to integrate, and not have to be trying to rebuild the host as you merge, which is part of why it was so rough for the two of us. I think. Hell, with your power, just have one of your priestesses 'conceive' your future host, and you can build it up as it matures. You have enough followers/subjects that you can keep from killing it by twisting the wrong bits, and if you ask for help, I am pretty sure they would do their best."