terribly sorry about the absences my car just broke down and life has been well... hectic at the least.  So what are your thoughts or opinions, I know book is in rage-eat-all-the-faces mode and I had plans for that (If I didn't carry silver what kind of butler would I be?) however, you are correct in that Valoren is not dead, he is not bullet proof in this form by any means however, hence blood.