<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=11726">Quote from: Angzyn on 24-01-2011, 20:41:40</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">(http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb395/Angzyn/Untitled.png)<br/><br/>If she gets her way about making a camp sight that will last them a few weeks until they get something else built up it will look like one of these two. First one with just the Taxi and Car, try and make some home made torches and line the openings (To keep animals away sense most wild life stay away from open flames), having their camp in the middle. The second one is like the first but with the SUV in it. I mean they might be a little broken but all five of them might be able to push them where it needs to be like covered wagons in a wild-west movie. Not saying this will happen before night fall. Making it a safe Temporary Camp Sight.  <br/><br/>Another thing she would want to do is get an inventory of everything they have so the group will know what they have to work with, using one of the cars a "Safe" to keep everything locked up. <br/><br/>I like your idea about how they will make it past the first night with the clothes and the SUV (min-van). They just need to get it out the tree slowly. <br/><br/>Also we should think one or all of the cars will have first aid kits and a road side bag. The Taxi would most likely have both. <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=753">Quote from: thymoit on 24-01-2011, 21:45:45</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Looks reasonable to me.  I agree most wildwife will stay away from fire - if everyone practices good sanitation.  If people start throwing food trash around, you'll draw wildlife, despite the fires.  The problem with the fires is they'll take a lot of fuel to keep them going and someone will probably have to tend them in the night.<br/><br/>You might want to consider the presence of the bridge as well.  At the lowest end the roadway is three feet above the prairie.  The top of the bridge is about two stories above the surrounding land.  That's pretty safe from predators.  However, it is also more exposed to the northern wind.  The first night camping on the south side of the embankment might be attractive, but after the first day the flood plain will start turning into a pond.  Tough choices all around.<br/><br/>Once the water level rises, the bridge will be surrounded on three sides by water, making it a good choice for a permanent camp, but until they can build walls or at least stack up logs to make a windbreak, it is going to be exposed and cold.<br/><br/>Also if this is early spring, is the bridge high enough when the melt hits and the stream goes into flood?  Two stories high?  Probably, safe, but it still a concern.<br/><br/>I also like your idea of using one of the cars as a safe.  That's smart thinking.  Especially since some of the food from fat dead guy will be raw meat.  With a high in the 40s it will keep a few days, but it is almost begging predators to come around.  Not to mention the corpse - what are you going to do with 400 lbs of dead guy?  The respectful thing is to bury him, but they had better bury him deep.  Wolves and bears can smell corpses in a shallow grave.  Digging a hole will take a lot of time that you won't have to get the shelter ready.<br/><br/>Here is my prospective grocery list.  I'll post this to the wiki later.  I tried to balance it between useful foods and "You fat idiot!  What the hell were you thinking?!"  I'm not sure what is in your army survival book, but I bet the trashbags alone are a godsend.  Stuffed with drygrass they can be insulation.  Punch holes in one, you've got a fish net.  Those are just two ideas off the top of my head. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=11726">Quote from: Angzyn on 24-01-2011, 22:17:43</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That's why I said temp, camp. Most likely 3-7 days until they can build something on the overpass. I was thinking about useing the overpass as a foundation or go old school movies with a tree house...but building on the overpass was my first pick. Because with a small pond under them it would also allow for fishing from a safe place. <br/><br/>As for the list I think adding pototes would be a good idea as would matchs or a lighter for the logs. <br/><br/>For the torch idea if you wrap cloth around a good size stick and soke it in gas ((from the cars)) they last about 2-4 days if you put them out when you not useing them. Also Anico would know all about fire watchs and would handle handing out such task. ((Which might add some emotion to the group)) maybe having to say up for each an hour or so watching the camp from the safety of the suv's front seat while the others sleep in the back.<br/><br/>As for the dead guy....Acino might request they just drag him away from camp, maybe lucking out half way and finding a natual hole to throw him in. But it would take all 5 of them to drag him away.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Thought I would post everything we talked about the camp. Hope you don't mind. If so I'll edit...if you want me to add more of what we talked about just tell me and I will edit.