<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=99096.msg4448108#msg4448108">Quote from: pendarious on 01-04-2011, 02:51:07</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">i'm looking at this from a naval perspective which of course applies to air ships the anti aircraft guns generally provide defensive hails of bullets used to fend off planes or missles if the enemy is dumb enough to get blasted apart by this hail so be it but if not then it's likely only going to glance the enemy and prevent them from making a devistating pass. Also let me say that implying that maneuvering this ship is pointless would be the same as implying maneuvering an aircraft carrier is pointless. Maneuvering big ships like this in combat serves to alter angles and make it neccessary for the enemy to re-calculate their attack while you already have your own plans in motion.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>One thing you forgot is that like aircraft carriers, zeppelins cannot launch planes while doing high speed manouvers.<br/><br/>I'm sure as a navigator of zeppelins Steele knows this.<br/><br/>So the sooner he stops throwing this giant sausage round the sky and does as he's told, the sooner we can launch planes. Keep this up much longer and we'll just all sit and watch this torpedo arrive.<br/><br/>I think there are a number of good reasons why the WW2 aircraft carrier analogy doesn't hold up at all and I still maintain that manouvering a zepp does more harm than good for the defensive gunners, but we'll sort that out after the battle (if we're all still here!).<br/><br/>Also just to cover a point of fact, only the gun crews and the control gondola knows there is a torpedo out there. I'm also discussing with Sel Nar the possibility that the gun crews do not have the means to communicate directly with the people in the control gondola. To me it makes sense that the ship has a gunnery officer somewhere, he may be in the gondola or he might be topside of the ship in an observation post but the gunners would talk to him (over headphones) and he would make the necessary decisions about defensive fire.<br/><br/>I don't agree that the gunners all have radio sets that allows them to shout out information via a loudspeaker in the control gondola because the shouts of 10 gunners in combat would quickly reduce the command car to pandemonium. Like any military unit, everything is compartmented and subordinated so gunners would talk to a gunnery officer and he (if needed) would talk to the bridge. To fly and command a zepp in combat would require as much peace and calm in the command car as possible I think.<br/><br/>The command car does have a couple of observation officers which I mentioned before so no doubt the one on the side facing the Commies with the torp has seen it, so Steele would probably know about it, but I just want to get away from this idea of everyone yelling every bit of information at everyone else so everyone has perfect knowledge. It couldn't possibly function that way.