<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=260005.msg12922466#msg12922466">Quote from: Sessha on 21-01-2017, 22:42:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"> The other thing to consider in this whole affair is that while yes the series did come out in the early 1980s it's almost always a good idea to go with the fact that we integrated both men and women into roles as combat pilots. Mostly largely based on the fact the series proper takes like in 2009-2010. Also with how multi-national the support was I can't really believe the fact that women as pilots would be left out. Case in point was another series that was done, Southern Cross Calvary. It came out not too long after Macross. Not only was the main commander of the tank unit a woman but one of the BEST pilots of their air forces was also a female.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Oh yeah not like it is a big deal for the game---again the historian in me comes out--- by the 90s, in the real world, many air forces around the world hand integrated. During the 80s you could count them on two hands. Funny, how sometimes, with notable exeptions, some Sci-fi from that era looked to the future when it came to tech but not socially. Or I should say TV Sci-fi because it had to appeal to a mass audience with the predominant values of the time it was aired. Other media like books presented alternatives all the time, The Forever War, the works of Heinlein, Piers Anthony, and many others challenged these norms. Even in Japan things were challenged with an assortment of character with fluid gender identities, as in Genesis Climber Mospeada. As I said Anime had has a long tradition of Kick-ass females in combat roles, for many a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s anime may very well have been the first or one of the first exposures we had to a woman who could kick ass, outside of comics that is. I know Miriya/Milia was my favorite Robotech/Macross character. Yeah, I saw Robotech first like many from my generation, anime was hard to get in the 80s and a single VHS tape with 3-5 episodes of a series ran between $70 and $100 in 1985 (that is about $220 in today's dollars).<br/><br/>Anyway, I only asked to make sure it was allowed since female human combat pilots in canon Macross sources are so rare. Though I do enjoy a good debate, I think it is healthy so long as folks are civil (which all here have been).