<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=175013.msg8452665#msg8452665">Quote from: Eliza on 24-06-2013, 03:05:02</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><div class="spoiler_container"><div class="spoiler_header" onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">I don't mean to be specific, but after reading your Event post, Moraline, I can say that the most probably place where the plane crash lands is on a stretched of highway 101 that has three lanes of traffic going west- and eastbound (might be called Central Freeway on some maps). It's actually an on- and off-ramp that connects with interstate 80 at an eastern junction. With the information that the mall is a half mile or so from the freeway where the plane lands, the best place where the mall would be is south of the freeway. We can just implant a luxury hotel there but not the Transamerica Pyramid (the pointy building in the picture). I'm guessing from the mall, people can see the luxury hotel as it towers over smaller hotels and motels and smaller shopping centers. People will have a good view of the plane's terrifying descent, if they are high enough, like on a exterior balcony on the shopping center. Most likely, our group will be inside and first hear colossal noises, followed by the sound of glass breaking and stone cracking, finishing with a vibration that mimic a small tremor which in actuality is the plane making it's impact with the freeway and finally resting beside the freeway, possibly into a warehouse or strip mall nearby, followed by the explosion. Hope I painted a fine picture for everyone.<br/><br/>EDIT: I think I misread something. You'll want to implant the luxury hotel sitting beside the freeway and the plane lands and careens straight into the hotel, obliterating everything above the third floor. The resulting explosion would shatter what was cracked two floors up and down, leaving the lobby and first floor of the hotel relatively intact, save for falling debris from the ceiling.<br/><br/>EDIT: Or you can scrap the above idea and look at Union Square, San Francisco, which is real-life shopping centre, yet is an outdoor plaza and not a mall. The nearest highway from this area is 80, going southwest-bound from the bay bridge. The traffic will probably be more packed on a weekend, resulting in many more property damage from the plane crash. Plus, there's a lot more bigger buildings than the place I had in mind in South Market (see above). Also, the trip back to Russian Hill is roughly one mile to a mile and a half.</div></div></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I'm not really aiming at specifics.  We are at a generic Moroccan themed shopping centre. The plane was not really making an aimed landing, they have little control with no electronics of any kind - They just sorta aimed at a road (better then a building).. and the plane came down and cartwheeled as they usually do when out of control.<br/><br/>The hotel and the plane are now a fireball as described. How much of the hotel is standing or not standing is largely irrelevant to us.<br/><br/>It was a flavor piece and just there to give us more to work off of. I was growing the disaster.<br/><br/>I removed the image of the Hilton hotel and that pyramid thing in the background to avoid any confusion for those that are familiar with the city.<br/><br/>Any other questions?