Fred laughed "ah well ye win some ye lose some thank ye anyway." His business was of a different kind than most pilots and people didn't often need a navigator though he was fairly good with logistics he didn't see any need in pushing the topic but he did decide to ask "what sort of.....jobs ye need done aside from pilots iffen ye don' mind me askin?" Now he was just being conversational there was no ill intent nor hint of pestering in his tone.<br/><br/>The appalachian navigator was used to being turned down despite his past exploits after all who needs a new navigator when the old one works fine right?