I confess I've been stalling for time while I look for my south book.<br/><br/>I'm not familiar with Chiaoscuro's "undercity", but the general idea of taking a district or two of the city--preferably ones that would benefit most form aggressive proselyziation --and asking Madder too do so without expanding beyond those limits is something I'd be quite in favor of.<br/><br/>When i was still trying to figure everything out, including what I and others were playing, I thought Madder was taking this "Undercity" and nothing else.