<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=156288.msg7735953#msg7735953">Quote from: Neysha on 17-02-2013, 04:22:13</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Submarines at the very least should be somewhat more survivable if they are at sea. Submerged submarines are very hard to detect with the proper ASW ship or aircraft nearby, which makes sense, considering they are supposed to hide well. US Nuclear Submarines benefit even moreso, since they can stay underwater for long periods of time. But the more common diesel-electric ones are more stealthy in shallow waters. <br/><br/>Carrier groups are pretty big targets however and can be easier to find. I'd imagine they'd be up there target wise in any initial attacks. But there are a lot of US Carrier groups. Ten fleet carriers, plus all of the amphib carriers which have less planes but more angry marines. :)<br/><br/>The 7th Fleet is forward deployed to Japan and has one carrier group which is 50/50 at being at sea or not since half of the fleets ships are at sea at anyone time... specifically just in case of some overwhelming surprise attack. And while the bases on Okinawa and Japan should've destroyed, there's still the submarine and naval base at Guam which is kinda in the middle of the Pacific. They got submarines and a lot of the special naval warfare and salvage and logistical ships there. The latter will be especially useful... since so much needs salvaging now. ;) <br/><br/>Plus there'd be Japanese and South Korea ships working alongside the Guam based ships. <br/><br/>The 3rd Fleet has five more carriers and could be based anywhere in the Western Pacific like San Diego or Washington or Hawaii as a home port. But they could conceivably be anywhere in the damn ocean. <br/><br/>Another thing to consider is that the US has possible bases that they could conceivably use just in case and have teams and personnel and contractors forward stationed in random places like the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore, British Colombia, Taiwan and so forth where there are no basing agreements and it'd normally be politically unfeasible, but if circumstances change, they could be utilized, especially in emergencies. (not sure if the Apocalypse qualifies) <br/><br/>In port, I can't imagine Carriers being very survivable especially in a surprise attack of this scale. But if they're out in the middle of the ocean, they'd be able to escape immediate danger. They aren't terribly hard to find, but a carrier battle group on alert would be a very tough nut to crack. Especially since I'd reckon most mutant style attacks in any conventional sense would have to be air based if the fleet is at sea. The main problem would be the complete elimination of chain of command, especially since Tony Stark isn't exactly in the chain of command. (and everyone knows that he's an Air Force lover, and the ChAIR Force is obviously inferior to US Navy Aviators)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I'll be conferring with the other GMs to see what elements they'd like to add (as far as for human Resistance allies and Sentinels and so forth). On first glance I would say that the largest and most dangerous carrier groups from the US, UK, Japan, and Russia were greeted with a nuclear warhead - teleported right into their midst via by Blink moments before detonation. That would leave them no real defense or countermeasure to prevent it. Smaller military bases weren't primary targets - but they all of the significant minor bases are currently dealing with assaults and invasions by the now-massive army of Apocalypse. So they're likely too busy trying to stay alive to be sending out help or aid at the moment.<br/><br/>As for Sentinels, I'll have to discuss with the other GMs to see what direction to go in. I primarily envisioned this game with a player vs player idea, Vision vs Resistance. Obviously we have many more Resistance members (something I figured would be safe because of the Resistance In-fighting between heroes and villains...). I figured there would be more resentment and squabbling among the Resistance early on, so I didn't account for the idea that everyone would set aside their differences so early. What's happening in Moscow between Doom and Crimson Dynamo is what I envisioned happening in most places around the world.<br/><br/>So perhaps I will add in the element of Sentinels to help keep people occupied with antagonists, since the Villains are currently fewer at the moment (apparently everyone loves heroes...  ::) Lol.) I'll post a GM update after I get some input from the Co-GMs on this matter. Probably won't be out until tomorrow or Monday (depending on responses). I'm right in the middle of my nine-days of work-torture, but I'll be productive as possible.