<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=318561.msg15394494#msg15394494">Quote from: AribethAmkiir on 02-05-2020, 07:31:53</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Normally, around a table the GM will prompt players to "roll perception".  <br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I think this kind of miscommunication comes down to personal experience. Dm's you play with may very well do that. The group I play with we typically specify whether or not we want to just use our passives or roll. Getting the benefit of both is seen as kinda cheating the system. Essentially you can never roll below your passive.<br/><br/>It's a matter of conscious choice to take the blanket chance with the passive or roll for your fate each time. And again if it's not specified that 'i'm keeping an eye out for x' that super high passive just takes kinda takes all the mystery out of things as every time you walk into a room you instantly see everything that might be hidden. If you're not actively paying attention to, and searching for traps it stands to reason you may not see it when it springs, even with a high natural perception.<br/><br/>So if you all want to be relying on your passives, great. Let me know what you're looking out for and i'll use your passives.<br/><br/>As for rolling perception, again sometimes the Dm prompts it, sometimes it's up to the player's intuition to decide where and when there might be a trap, or something else worth looking into. If you really want to roll perception every post than I guess I can't stop you.<br/><br/>This specifically was a trap that sprung if A). the player didn't notice it with a passive or active roll (but either way the player had to specify they were searching)<br/><br/>and B.) the player failed their DC 10 dex check.