"It's not for everyone. The thing about it is, you can do a lot with those objects.  You really can hurt someone with them; a leather whip will rip the skin off your back if you use it the right way. But when you do things the best way, their's no real pain.  Just an odd sort of high from the adrenaline.<br/><br/>"I like a girl that can get rough with me. It adds a new dimension to things." He says with a laugh that is slightly nervous. "But I like you, too, Natalie." Their was a lull in his talking as he took a sip of beer, and went to flip the burgers and rotate the hot dogs, so they don't burn. "Kink is just like different flavors of ice cream, you know?"<br/><br/>"I could tell you about quite a few different things. I'm a masochist myself, but I've experimented in a few other areas, like in chastity play, bondage. I've been both a dom and a sub." He chuckled again, this time as if remembering something fondly. "A few things that I won't bring up. Was their something specific you wanted to know about, or should I just ramble for a while?" He had been serious about telling her these things. And he took her answer seriously, too.