<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=156288.msg8123894#msg8123894">Quote from: LunarSage on 27-04-2013, 00:01:41</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Perhaps, but Tony's methods made him a fascist asshat in that storyline.  His 'if you aren't with me, 100% you're against me and you'll be arrested and tried without due process' style (Speedball was held out of country with no due process by SHIELD, who isn't even an American organization), or the 'You dare question me?  I'll take away your powers!' thing he pulled on She Hulk with nanites in an Adamantium tipped dart.  He approved using a murderous cybernetic clone of Thor (using a hair he kept from the actual Thor) who killed Black Goliath and even after that he had no issues with using Clor again.  He even tried pulling that crap on Thor when he came back from the dead... Thor kicking his ass was all sorts of beautiful in my eyes.<br/><br/>Our game's Tony is a hero... the Tony in Civil War was way out of character and truly was a fascist asshat.  Marvel ruined him in the 616 universe for me.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Fair enough; his totally 'the ends justify the means' thing was a bit...Damaging to the character (to put it lightly)<br/><br/>But just goes to show that route of all true evil is...AA!  If Tony had just been allowed to have a bloody drink, none of that would happen!  The wagon is evil, evil I say!  ( have no idea if this is true, just sounded funny,)