<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=111187.msg4910349#msg4910349">Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on 11-07-2011, 03:19:18</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Ahaa, I see. So lunars are atop sidereals and where abyssals fit in the tree? No idea about alchemicals at all though.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Abyssals probably fit just below Solars and Infernals and above everyone else.  Their Charms are Solar-level, but they're incredibly focused on things like 'murder' and 'zombies' so they're not especially diverse.<br/><br/>Alchemicals are weird.  Their Charms are more expensive and individually less powerful that Solar-tier Charms, but their ability to swap out Charms means that they can become hyperfocused if they need to, and more cheaply than other characters.  It's hard to place them because of it.  Their Charms are Celestial tier, and I guess about on par with Lunars (if not below them), but they get a lot of use out of cheaper (4 xp) Charms that can be swapped out of their Charm Slots (6 xp).  Where a Solar with 80 XP just has 20 Charms (10 to begin with, 10 more on top of it), an Alchemical with 80 xp enjoys more like 30+ Charms, only 10 or so which they can use at a given time.  It means they have more room to specialize, but they lose out on immediate versatility.