Yeah, my char done all five steps for sorcery and she had paid sacrifice for terrestrial circle. So learning celestial circle sorcery when it is actually surpassing her own exaltation......can be very costly indeed.<br/><br/>But yeah, we shall see how things fare. Anyways I had thinked Shizune met Shimmering Lodestar because she was one survivors from Thorns (her mentor wanted learn much as possible from the abyssals which are mystery to sidereals also and my mentor has sidereal colleques in Hepthagram). She goes and meets Shimmering Lodestar and finds out she is anathema and because her cult connections she tells 'truth' about the ancient past and informs DB's usurpation etc.<br/><br/>Then to double check she heads to Hepthagram inform mentor that Shimmering Lodestar was anathema (plus whatever she learned from events in Thorns) but then asks a resident sidereal about what Shimmering Lodestar talked about. The sidereal was gold faction sidereal (could be one players) informed the facts and confirmed them.....and so by shame for what her kin had done in the past she decided redeem her part the past acts and does eclipse (Shimmering Lodestar done it) empowered ancient DB loyalty oath towards solar circle. Being first DB to submit and bend knee in this era and time probably.<br/><br/>At least my cents how she is involved in the past events but how she helped in the city itself.....probably nothing expect perhaps help clean up and deal with undead send in by abyssals (while solars kicking ass as usual).