<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=75955.msg3319259#msg3319259">Quote from: Black Orchid on 19-07-2010, 07:49:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay then, would it be uncharacteristic of a wolf, if my wolf submit to the alpha male, meaning he's strong enough to be a Beta male, but he doesn't care to take the alpha position?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>On this point I'd say yes, and no. Most of the fleshing out of the social structure would be bascially by contest. Submitting without contest would be more likely to push you further down the social ladder then someone who even put up a token attempt at taking the position. However, assuming the Alpha asserts himself strongly, it would be possible that none of the other males would challenge him, making the Beta simply the generally accepted next-strongest.