Ninja, Dave doesn't need to grovel.  He (as well as you if you wish to stay, and if not I understand and hold no ill-bare feelings) just needs to except the way of things.  And the way of things in this universe is that soldiers, like he are expendable in the bulk compared to soldiers like Paige.  Paige gets the system, she gets that a person isn't their individual value, it is the value to the whole.  And those are vastly different things compared to what we hold now.  Whether it be soldier, former soldier or civilian.  In most cases I believe.  I could very well be wrong.<br/><br/>But this is a dictatorship, a very strong, a very powerful, a very cruel dictatorship.  At the same time, it provides a reasonably fair system of justice for its civilians.  On a whole (considering the entire expanse of the Empire, which is massive I assure you) it provides peace and stabability.  Most Imperial Citizens go their whole lives without worrying about orcs, bugs, xenoes and whatever else we may cook up.  Our characters however are the not the peace indulging, worry free civilians.  They are soldiers.  Soldiers in a universe where they are treated on a very biased, and very controlled scale.  One where, unlike today, public opinion has no meaning.<br/><br/>So Ninja again I understand if you wish to show yourself the door, I really do.  At the same time, despite what has happened, I guarantee I can find a place in this unit for David and in this RP for you.  I am a chauvinistic fuck at heart you want the truth of it, and any time I call a girl, 'hon' 'sugar' 'darlin' etc in a none blatantly flattering way, it is patronizing.  Because I am a son of a bitch like that and I assume any man who talks like me is the same.  May not be fair, but no one said life was fair.  If you can except the reasoning for me talking as did from that, and all is well with other players, I see no reason you can't stay.<br/><br/>I see David as an interesting character and I see you as being an interesting RPer, but if you don't think it will work, you don't think it will work. All I got for now, so consider what I said please.<br/><br/>On a side note I did consider sending this in a PM to talk with Ninja directly, but figured it could give everyone more incite to how I am conducting things.  If anyone, absolutely anyone has issue with that, PM me and we will discuss it privately.  Same goes with any topic.  You send me a PM and we talk, it will not show up here.