I often tell the joke that even though vampires are the most social, their penalties mean that werewolves and mages have a much easier time of out-socializing them without the use of powers.  Werewolves going into frenzy at either dealing or being dealt an exceptional success of damage makes them the worst at physical, and I forget what the one was for mages but I think it had something to do with how everything is so secret that most of them never have enough info to go on.<br/><br/>But yeah, I can whine for weeks about what a piece of crap the system is if it's not beaten into submission by a talented ST.