Bob, I'd like to point out the following. Between Lethiel, Trakas, and Roland (whom Trakas can still speak to, Speak With Animals has a 10 minute duration and it's MAYBE been five since he cast it), we have the following at our disposal:<br/><br/><ul class="bbc_list"><li type="disc">See Invisibility</li><li type="disc">Scent</li><li type="disc">Spot and Listen +18</li><li type="disc">Will +9 and +12 (disbelieve illusions)</li><li type="disc">Spellcraft +21 and +15</li><li type="disc">A whole slew of other Knowledge checks</li></ul>And yet, you are telling us that, while the two of us are standing<em>directly adjacent</em>to Alice, she and two other characters (including my animal companion, who is trained to make noise when he detects new creatures) have literally just<em>vanished</em>into thin air, and we have<em>no</em>idea why?<br/><br/>I ultimately can't challenge Rule 0, but that doesn't strike you as a little off/unfair?