<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=141836.msg6520037#msg6520037">Quote from: Haibane on 01-07-2012, 13:14:38</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I don't see a Free man owning a slave who can dominate if that woman went through the standard slave system of education and BFA training, the women's minds are completely reconditioned.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I agree.  If she went through slave-ed and/or BFA training, she's a slave.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">If a Free dominant woman somehow fell foul of the system, then she too would pass through the hands of the BFA and her fall and breaking would be especially cruel, lengthy and traumatic. The BFA reconditions slaves, it has no interest in sending out dommes into the market! If a woman proved to be completely unbreakable I imagine she'd be terminated or kept permanently in the BFA dungeon and abused by the trainers for fun, which would be a terrible fate for such a person.<br/><br/>The only way I can see such a relationship working is if the woman is Free and a dominant and willingly enters into an agreement with a man for him to buy her after she lets her Freedom Tax remain unpaid, but I have to ask, why? Why even bother?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I agree that a free dominant woman that lost her freedom would not work either, because the BFA training would break her.<br/><br/>I also agree that a free dominant would not give up her freedom to become a dominant slave.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I am sure there are plenty of truly domme Free women in this RP world who either privately have male subs just like our world (usualy these are their husbands or boyfriends), or who run establishments where sub males go to pay for their fun, but it would be extremely hard for the owner of such a place to buy slaves to staff it, since all slaves are effectively broken and have been made into subs and having them play a role of a dungeon domme, even for a few hours, would need a special slave with a special mindset, which would be extremely rare - and how in heck would a lady owner of such an establishent find such girls?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>True.  A dominant free woman could hire other dominant free women.  In our game alone, we have four such women.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think such establishments would be like so many we have today that have websites - owned and run by a single (Free) dominatrix working alone.<br/><br/>I don't see Richelieu's having such a set up.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Unless Kaelyn hired Nereza or Darya or someone like that to work at Richelieu's.  Or Nereza hired Kaelyn or Darya or someone like them to work at her stable, Mes Poulians Petits.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I also don't see this game appealing to those kinds of male RPers either so I doubt it'll get played out in this setting, interesting though it would be because the couple can't go out in public and everything would happen privately behind closed doors.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>One male player in the players wanted thread seemed interested in being a male slave.<br/><br/>And one female player wanted to own a male slave.<br/><br/>I would be interested in seeing that relationship play out.<br/><br/>Sure, the male cannot be a slave legally, but he can submit in spirit.<br/><br/>I think it would be an interesting complication in this world, having to have a switch relationship, the female being truly a domme behind closed doors and acting like a slave in public.  They have to hide their true relationship to fit in to the world.  The male could punish the female in public and the female would return the favor in private.<br/><br/>At the very least, I find that kind of relationship more interesting than a male character being anti-slavery in this game, who has to be convinced to dominate a female slave before they actually dominate a female slave, when they can just go straight to dominating a female slave, which is the point of the game.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Again I think these girls would need to be Free women, not slaves. Slaves have had their minds and wills broken too much. Such a group of men could well run/own a society or club that was so well organised that membership involved fees and with this money, the men could offer to pay the Freedom Tax for a Free woman, making it worthwhile for her to take up residence and 'look after' them all. The club might even stretch to have several dommes if it was big enough, or the patrons rich enough. Monaco would definitely be the place for such a set up, in terms of the disposable cash being around and the rich and well-educated being the biggest perverts (which I think is a social trueism).<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Let's take someone like Kaelyn.  Ten years ago when the law was passed, her grandfather paid for her freedom. If the law were passed when Kaelyn was going to school, maybe her grandfather put her through a mistress-ed program, so that he could keep her free and she can keep being dominant.<br/><br/>The same goes for Nereza, Linda and Marie-Claire.  Instead of presumably private traditional education, maybe they could have gone through mistress-ed.<br/><br/>Parents have a choice in the daughter's education - slave-ed, traditional and even the special no-knowledge-of-the-outside-world education so that when they become slaves, they're in for a big shock.<br/><br/>Perhaps a master-ed program for girls could be available, too.  After the girls were done, they could be freed and dominant.  Or they could be enslaved and treated like slaves (which would be<em>really</em>dark).<br/><br/>If a game in a school with slave-ed and master-ed programs ever happened, there's not really going to be a place for those dominant female players as students.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It's not really up to me to say what character image people use unless it's <em>completely</em> inappropriate (like a Japanese guy covered in Yakuza tattoos being suggested as the image model for a character who would be the Prince of Monte Carlo) but of the three sets Chrystal suggested the 3rd one is my least favourite. Rather <em>too</em> dangly for my tastes!<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I was kind of feeling Nigella or the second choice myself.<br/><br/>I looked up actual mother-daughter combinations.  Desi Foxx and Elli Foxx are a mother-daughter combination that have done porn (even in the same scene), and I don't think they really look alike.  I also found a mother-daughter combo for a Miss England pageant or something like that, and although they were both hot, they didn't really seem to resemble each other much face-wise either (but both had tall, slim builds).<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">That set me wondering - is there a public Slave Decency law in Monaco? Is there a certain level of appearance a naked slave must conform to? Can really old, wrinkly, gross or overweight slaves be taken out nude in public? I think there is a decency rule in operation, I just wonder how its policed! You'd need the police to do it and their judgement is always subjective. A tricky one.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Decency laws for regular people could also be enforced on slaves who have a DMV below a certain value?<br/><br/>There could just be social rebuffs instead of legal ones.  I could totally see Nereza saying to an owner in front of their ugly naked slave something like, "Would you be so kind as to put some rags on that... thing.  The ugly cunt is making me lose my appetite."<br/><br/><br/>