<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=160006.msg7491532#msg7491532">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 05-01-2013, 23:57:21</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Don't forget to stack price modifiers. Choosing wall materials is Step 2, and Final Price is Step 5, so we can apply the Lyre's 30% discount to the cost of the walls as well if we have to. Location also matters - the Plane of Shadow is definitely a Lawless area, so that's another -10%, and if we build it near a monster lair, we can get more discounts...11% if there's a Nightwalker living nearby, 13% if there's a Nightcrawler living nearby instead. These will be necessary to counterbalance the +15% premium for an Exotic location. Liberal use of Fabricate can make all the components a bit cheaper as well.<br/><br/>Can Tristana pull off the UMD check necessary to activate a Bead of Karma? That's +4 CL, bumping him to CL16 and giving us all that Iron for free.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I think I can use the Bead of Karma.  That would basically let me do it in half the castings. (when we could get it half off with 220 castings, we can get it free with 440).<br/><br/>Iron walls are 6,000 per SS. - 30% from Lyre they are 4,200, then if I'm doing providing half the iron with magic (11 castings per ss to do so - 22 per ss would make them free) it goes down by a further 50%<br/><br/>so 2,100 per SS. Plan for 40 SS  = 84,000, if we are only doing pouter walls though (a 40 space stronghold has 50% outer-walls) than -50% = 42,000.<br/><br/>Now boosting my CL to 17 with a bead of karma by the formula they seem to be using in the book will let each time I cast Wall of Iron count as two castings.<br/><br/>I'm already counting the lyre in the wall cost figure I quoted you. I really acts like fabricate so I doubt it stacks with the bonus for casting fabricate. Plus you'd have to get someone else to cast it since with the lyre I don't need to use crafting skill checks, if we use fabricate I would (and don't have the skill to do so).<br/><br/>----------<br/><br/>Okay so I think the initial plan will be Bind a Dao get and get a free 10 SS size stronghold, made of 100% stone, to use for now while we gather everything we need on site. Now we have a place to work from even if is just the basics. One of the 10 SS's will be our crafting station and another the pain pit. ( 12 could work fine too. It doesn't HAVE to be 10)<br/><br/>When all the materials are finally on site we take the magic equipment out of the small stone house and have all the materials that made it go toward making the big one. Nothing is wasted, and we still have something to work out of for now.<br/>---<br/><br/>Edit: You called him Tristana! His name is Tristeria, after a ritual performed by the Maenads of the cult of Dionysus. With the Pale Enchantress having a character named "Tristana" i can't help but...<br/><br/>Tristania - Pale Enchantress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMJyNnnR1TE#)