I would think that possibly and quite easily we all could work in pretty close with a thieves organization.  My primary will at least do work for the organization and find some of you others thru my contacts that way.<br/><br/>Nim, will be glad to work with your character.  Since I will be going with shadow magic, it will be very decent addition to your character, should that be to your liking.<br/><br/>Dark Clown and I can also meet this way, possibly he suggests to Nim's that she wants to work with me on the magic/meditative aspects.<br/><br/>I do not want my mage to be inept in martial skills.  I want him to be a good hand to hander.  I will curtail some of the magical studies if necessary.  Possibly a dual class sort of tie in so he can be border line monk bad ass.  As always, mister dm sir, you will have the final say on just how lethal the non magic stuff will be.  Definitely want to be a mage first.  All else comes second.<br/><br/>I have always liked shadow magic.  If you do not want it to be tied to a plane, that works well, Xan.  Let me know how we can discuss this further.  The Drow will have a deeper knowledge of this magic, which will be my leaning towards studying there.  Even becoming a Drow.  I will specialize in shadow creatures.  And shadow fire.  So quite possibly, shadow fire elementals.  I would love to be able to dip into where ever the shadow energy comes from, giving me the best possibility to over come my targets defenses.<br/><br/>W/o taking your story away from you, Xan, will characters one and two know each other?  If so, second will be a mage contact for primary.<br/><br/>Third will be a female Paladin.  ^.^  Thats all I need to say about that for now.  Obviously the counter point to my primary will be quite obvious.<br/><br/>I will use this image for my Drow incarnation.  Thank you for the help, Cassi!<br/><br/>(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd225/ancientaction/Drow.jpg)