<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=100801.msg4925782#msg4925782">Quote from: Kendra on 14-07-2011, 09:47:24</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">@ Cadavar - oh she knows that song :P<br/><br/>@ bubby - what if during the punishment that's getting carried out Valeria's personal servant goes to waken her, not liking one bit how all cosy Livia and Manius are together. When she enters she seems Ammon there or just leaving - she discovers her Domina is dead and raises the alarm not giving any thought to Ammon at the time as she is genuinely upset. <br/>The punishments to the gladiators are curtailed though the slave who murdered Bastian gets a far worse ordeal - a slow painful death instead of a quick one as Manius attempts to deal with the news of his wives demise. The personal servant is called and quizzed and only then does it come to light that Ammon had been in Valeria's chambers. <br/>He is not asked whether he is innocent or guilty but considered guilty from the onset and Manius organises that he fight the following morning, not just one other great gladiator from the Ludus but if Livia allows it, her own champion. He wants Ammon dead.<br/>Perhaps while the fighting is going on, the reason for Valeria's death comes to light and the news is passed to Manius just as he is about to give sentence on whether its thumbs up or down for Ammon or whatever gladiator fell.<br/>(we can always have the gladiators roll a dice to see which of them will win )<br/><br/>sorry it's early morning, I've had no coffee and my muse is being a biatch  :-\<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Love the idea too. However, how does Ammon get from the sands unnoticed by everyone to the chambers? Since no posts were done to suggest it happened. Just like everyone else he was ordering to be punished by the Dominus who court him fighting on the sands with the Gladiatrix. Manius only chose three to save and he was not one of them. Don't mean to be a pain here.<br/><br/>However, if he did sneek of that would make manius even more mad. Not only did he hear that he was in his wife's chambers but in order to gert there he disobeyed a direct order. My goodness he would be furious. So for this to work would Darkcide be ok if he started his post with the fact that he snuck away from the line up before the Doctore began to organise them into cages? I can even amend my post to show that Manius could not see Ammon in the cages if you like? :)