I think I'd agree with that, Peace.<br/><br/>Not so sure about the mistress-ed thing you have mentioned a few times Vin. While the school system is now designed around cultivating arrogant/superior/assertive/mysogynistic traits in males and suppressing similar traits in females, ultimately a dominant person exists in the mind outside of exterior influences, so either these poor women suffer horribly as they are destroyed by the system (a father isn't going to know if his 12 YO daughter is a future domme) or they are simply the lucky ones and have parents who put them through private schools where they receive a normal education and their sexuality has free rein to grow into a dominant one.<br/><br/>With the free couple where the male is the submissive, I think in public the woman would still dominate though there won't be collars and leashes etc. No-one 'plays' at slaves in public because a standard collar would easily be seen to be fake, hence my suggestion of an organisation that meets in a club building.<br/><br/>I agree its a whole interesting side to the society of the game but I think I'd rather put effort into expanding the main focus of the RP than branch off into areas that have potential to conflict with or change the mood of the game. There are other games on E for players who want to enjoy sub-male roles. I'm not shutting the door entirely on the idea and such a society could come along later but in these early stages of the game I would like the main mood to be established: rich perverse bastards torturing and abusing sexy cuties who have committed no crime and are victims of an evil system.<br/><br/>@ Chrystal - yes, I agree, I think if we look at the issue long enough we'll see ways to make it so that those relationships work. Generally though they are going to be in a very small minority.<br/><br/>When the law was passed most slaves were 'family' slaves and I would guess (unless you want a comic style game like Erenisch originally proposed that made every guy a mysogynistic, incestuous, sadistic pervert) that almost all the original slaves of a decade ago simply carried on their normal family lives as wife/sister/daughter/aunt. Only in some families would there be sexual abuse, a minority. But gradually over the preceeding decade either more men have become seduced by the new power they have and begun to abuse their close female relatives or many were sold and being totally untrained, were put through the BFAs meat grinder to make them submissive and obedient. During that same decade girls in school as each year went by would have been graduating with more and more exposure to the system.<br/><br/>The vast numbers of 18 YOs (in fact mostly older women) without CMRs on Day 1 of the new law would have flooded the system, yes, and initially training would have either been sketchy or there would have been huge queues waiting training like we get in prison systems where many accused are on remand in prisons awaiting trial. Perhaps in the early years of the law the young BFA did contract out girls to private training centres where no doubt abuse would have been far worse, just like we find abuse of the aged in private care homes for the elderly is often worse than in state-funded homes.<br/><br/>Eventually however the system would have become more professional, more stable, more mature, more and more girls graduated with more brainwashing and more ordinary men discovered the joys of marriage where you could force your wife, by law, to not nag you and also spank her and fuck her whenever you fancied a bit and the days of "not tonight I've got a headache dear" were over.<br/><br/>So, yes, I admit, there's no black and white, its all shades of grey, its just that as time goes on the grey is getting darker and the lighter patches are becoming fewer and smaller so in another 20 or 30 or 40 years time, dominant females would be very rare creatures.