<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=160006.msg7487213#msg7487213">Quote from: TheGlyphstone on 05-01-2013, 02:01:17</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">The Lyre will cut labor costs by half, so a 15% total discount on the fortress if we're not already using totally free labor, and we still have to pay for materials even if we're harvesting and processing them ourselves. The Stronghold Builder's Guide is weird sometimes, though I love it anyways.<br/><br/>I'd suggest Iron as the material personally. Iron and Stone are the only sturdy solid materials that can be permanently created by magic...by the book, casting Wall of Stone at CL12 is -50% to all stone components, and CL16+ is all hewn stone walls for free. Presumably that would be the same for being able to cast Wall of Iron, since the two spells create walls of identical proportions per caster level.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>The Lyre will not cut labor costs by 1/2 it will eliminate labor costs and speed building up. One hour of play guts it by 15% two hours completely eliminates labor costs. 4 hours ends up getting the job done in half the time. If I play 8 hours every week we have no labor other then me needed and I end up getting the job done in 1/4th the time.<br/><br/>Hmm Outer walls of iron with a wooden veneer to make it prettier on each side would work. Thats a lot of walls of Iron for me to start casting though GAH! I need The Belt of the Dread Empress ASAP for that shit.