Ty, I think we disagree fundamentally over what the purpose of the Extreme board at Elliquiy is and how it should be used.<br/><br/>I do not agree that a game should be rated as 'extreme' just so that 'people can do what they like'. To me the extreme rating isn't an extra part of the playground to allow overspill if people want it. To me the extreme section is there to<em>specifically</em>include various kinks that are considered too 'out there' to tastefully be included in the other parts of the site. Given that reason, if people want to do extreme play it should be discussed beforehand and the<em>actual material</em>they intend to bring into the RP should be specifically mentioned and agreed. I believe a GM should say (for example) "this game is going to include scat and watersports, please only join it if you are comfortable with those fetishes," or two players might want one of their characters to dismember and eat the other while that character is still alive (vore), in which case those two players should mention this in the pre-game planning and make sure that the GM and all the other players have agreed to its inclusion prior to players committing time and effort to their planning.<br/><br/>If it is agreed that the game will include vore and bathroom play that does not then mean that necrophilia (for a further example) can be suddenly introduced later on 'just because' the game is in the extreme section. All these kinks are serious offs for many people and when you go into this darker end of the roleplaying spectrum the guidelines about respecting others wishes and boundaries grow<em>firmer</em>and must be respected so much<em>more</em>because you can seriously upset someone if they come across the subject without prior warning.<br/><br/>I also read every thread of a group game I am in because I think I owe it to the group to do so. I believe every player of a group game owes it to the group to do so. Separate threads may contain useful character or plot information and if we all do not read all the threads some of us might miss this information to the detriment of all our playing experiences because a continuity gap that disrupts the game might open up for example.<br/><br/>This is why I don't accept that some extreme content can go into its own threads within group games. The whole game should be extreme rated and the specific kinks and fetishes agreed beforehand or none of the game goes there.<br/><br/>I think there has also in recent months been a big increase in the percentage of games played at Elliquiy that are put into the Extreme board. I think some players see it as somehow 'better' or more impressive if their games go there without them really thinking through the issue of 'do I actually need this?'<br/><br/>Ty, my disagreeing with you has nothing to do with our ages or whether any of us here are mature or not, since we all stated that when we joined. My maturity has nothing to do with the fact that I find watersports, scat, vore, gore, cannibalism, snuff, necrophilia, paedophilia and non-sexual torture all unpleasant and I hope you weren't suggesting that just because my views on what I find kinky differ from yours that I'm somehow less mature because of it.<br/><br/>Looking carefully at what I think falls into Elliquiy's Extreme rating - you can add bestiality to the list above; that's the only one that doesn't squick me out - I can't see that anyone, in this perverted school setting, would<em>need</em>to use ANY of those in order to have a complete blast in this game. Therefore setting the game in the NC board won't in fact cramp any of the players and will actually have a positive effect in that it allows us to relax and enjoy ourselves knowing nothing squicky will be around the corner.<br/><br/>If the game remains in the Extreme section, sadly and much to my disappointment and annoyance (since two of your players have specifically planned to play opposite my characters) I will withdraw.