<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=76387.msg3348904#msg3348904">Quote from: DngrMse on 24-07-2010, 16:43:33</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I've read through everything, even the entire collection of illustrated stories Haibane linked, (and it took me...oh...30 pages before I puzzled out that each page was read right side first, from top to bottom, back to the top left, and down again, sometimes separated into panels arranged vertically.  At first, I didn't have a clue what was being said), and this looks like it could be a lot of fun. I like the private club idea, with a large private building/hotel just for the membership, and the outdoors, public areas.  This does give rise to a couple questions though.  All waste is eliminated as urine, which means the pets will have to be walked frequently, And it's double extra humiliating to be forced to pee in public.  Not so much for the guys, I think... but, since I'm on the subject, do the boy dogs lift their legs to pee?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Peeing is up to the players to incorporate in the game or not as personal tastes dictate of course, though we're in extreme section so yeah, but please be aware of the offs of your co-writers on such borderline subjects. Perhaps best to check in the OOC first if such a scene squicks people out and give fair warning before hand so that those who don't wish to read it can avoid it. I don't want to say 'No, we are not having public peeing for the dogs in the game,' but just please be respectful of other's wishes.<br/><br/>To answer your point, yes, I see both male and female dogs lifting their legs to pee, or they could squat I guess but leg-lifting is more humiliating since it exposes the dog more and the act of raising a leg is more visible and people can and will take notice more. And yes the whole idea of making a self-aware girl or boy do such things over a drain in a crowded shopping street would be - for me at any rate - so intensely hot.<br/><br/>We could make the liquid-waste only alteration optional and do public pooping too if you really want (even MORE wonderfully humiliating) but that's even more borderline so if players prefer to avoid such extreme stuff we can do so.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I think it would be interesting to imagine in their partially converted state...no they don't.  It's something they're forced to do in public to appear more "dog like".  Sniffing trash cans, and, well, you know, that whole dog thing.  A carefully staged act designed to humiliate the pet further.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Exactly. The more I think of the possibilities the hornier it makes me. Oh for a chance to live in such a community in real life. I'd be there like a shot!<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Next question, are these mostly converted pets always strangers to the owners?  I imagine having a rival, an enemy, or whatever, kidnapped, and delivered to the same crooked scientists, and converted would be an interesting way in delivering a bit of revenge, or just taking someone out of the picture, for whatever reason.  It might add to the story, or introduce needless complexity, depending on how detailed the back story behind the kidnapped pet is explored.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>My 1-on-1 game used exactly this premise. A young man who confessed to a girl in school and she rejected him only to be later randomly captured and partly-converted and he recognised her and bought her. The original doujin had a built in safety factor in that the cities where dogs were captured was never the city they were sold as pets; the idea of a father coming across his ex-daughter as a dog would be more than a little traumatic (though if he had an incest fetish it would be a very erotic twist in our game), but accidents happen and the devious buyer can deliberately circumvent any system - or the point raised in the doujin was that a family might move house and by luck find a former relative... The revenge factor of my 1-on-1 story was rather yummy, so yes, we can use such a plot-line in some cases if you wish though maybe with just one or two pets, too many like that would be stretching the bounds of believability a touch.<br/><br/>I think we should again be sensible about this and discuss plot ideas beforehand, so that we don't suddenly have two mothers coming across their sons and three young men their former high school crushes all in the same kinky club... so moderation in this will make it better.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Since there are going to be special garments to prevent the pets from being able to use their hands, or stand/walk/run, shouldn't there be something else to prevent them from speaking too?  Say something along the lines of a small, nondescript oral appliance, that can't be spit out, and prevents it's wearer from vocalizing most consonants?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Good point and yes it can be an optional torture device an owner can use if he/she wishes, perhaps some form of plastic clamp or locking retainer that holds the tongue still? Or you could have a collar that administers an electric shock either by the owner pressing a remote or an automatic speech prevention device which administers an electric shock when the vocal cords resonate within a certain pattern which a detector/decoder and microchip built into the collar detect.<br/><br/>I'm happy with a certain level of fantasy hi-tech in our setting as long as all devices are discussed here first so we can keep a rein on how clever the game technology is.<br/><br/>My personal preference though would be to allow the pet the ability to speak but simply force it to endure an existence where it can't because to do so in public will mean it's death or full conversion. Having the ability to speak in the club would be useful too for some duties, like waitressing. The additional mind-fucking comes with a situation such as after a weekend in the club/hotel being allowed to speak is followed by a walk to the shops on Monday where the poor animal must remember to stay silent except for doggy barks and yaps and whines.