Alright I can see people have been pming each other. First off I never debated that Wales was conquered, I debated that it was not called WALES at that time. It was inhabited by Celtic Britons. Never being established as the current WALES until after the Roman empire left. I know the damn country didn't vanish over night and appear after the romans left lol. I am simply stating that it was not known as Wales, in other words a character mentioning he is from wales, when it was several centuries after the romans left that Wales finally had a king, and was considered Wales.<br/><br/>Also as you said it Pearl:<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=100801.msg4614381#msg4614381">Quote from: PearlRuby on 09-05-2011, 01:08:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Marcoth, I just want to clear something up, since your last post confused me a bit &gt;.&lt; <br/>If you're playing your character quite dumb around the whole Rome invasion in Wales, then fair enough. But if you're letting IC stuff confuse OOC stuff, please let me help clear that up. Especially since we have 4 Welsh character in the RP. So to say that Wales hasn't been invaded is kinda erm... false. I think it would be pretty common knowledge that Rome sent some armies to Britannia in general, and the slave market would definitely be reaping the rewards of it. For everyone's benefit I've posted some historical facts about Wales under Roman ruling.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>That quote from your ealier post states that Rome sent armies to Britannia.....thats what the whole island was called. They were simply, again as you stated:<br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=100801.msg4614381#msg4614381">Quote from: PearlRuby on 09-05-2011, 01:08:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><span class="bbc_u">Facts</span>: Historically, Anglesey has long been associated with druids. In AD 60 (this RP is set in 62 AD roughly) the Roman general Gaius Suetonius Paulinus, determined to break the power of the Celtic druids, attacked the island, destroying the shrine and the sacred groves. News of Boudica's revolt reached him just after his victory, causing him to withdraw his army before consolidating his conquest. The island was finally brought into the Roman Empire by Gnaeus Julius Agricola, the Roman Governor of Britain, in AD 78. The foundations of Caer Gybi, a fort at Holyhead, are Roman, and the present road from Holyhead to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll may originally have been a Roman road.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>You notice that it never says anything naming that region as Anglesey, Wales? My point is not to call anyone an idiot, but rather to say yes it was inhabited by Celtic Druids, that is correct, but if they were from Wales, wouldn't they be called the Welsh? That is my point to my arguement, sorry to piss off everyone, but it was a minor detail in a false statement, but it was also changing the entirety of the history of the Roman empire. If Wales was in fact Wales, then they would have conquered the Britons and the Welsch, not the Britons and the Celtic druids who so vigorously defended their homelands and isles.<br/><br/>Again I am not arguing that geographically, yes it was Wales, but was it called that in AD 60? As far as my research on the subject matter shows, not it was not. If I am wrong then I do apologize, but I have since confirmed this on three separate sources, not just WIKI which is rather fun, but unreliable in honesty, i used it for quick reference i must admit.<br/><br/>If this is still a problem, then I will bow out of the RP since I obviously have stepped on peoples twos by bringing up historical errors, though we don't have to be spot on, we should at least stay within centuries of a country being named. Also if you have a problem with my post Pearl, then please pm me, as I have been instructed to do, and bubby has brought up in this very OOC thread, not but one page before this post.<br/><br/>Are we done with people trying to argue? Because if my post holds some very tragic mistake, then do let me know, but as far as I can tell I have toned him down to a big bitch as much as I can and will not change him anymore so that he doesn't offend.<br/><br/>ALRIGHT! Now that I have vented my frustrations as Pearl obviously did earlier, how about we all just sit back and continue, unless again I am too much of a problem and I will bow out to make everyone happy as I stated earlier.<br/><br/>Also I am not angry nor offended, I am simply stating the facts and offering a solution if everyone so wishes it. Oh and one last thing MC please do pm me if you want to debate a fact that only you and I discussed. Do not start talking to the entire group and then not comment as pearl did on your own accord. Thanks all and enjoy the reading and posting.