What Elina giveth, Elina taketh away...<br/><br/>Yup I was wrong on Shiva. So very wrong. Teaches me to look at westernised art as what a deity should look like (and leave it to us gringos to put tits on the cosmic dancer version of Shiva). Sorry about that. Thanks for the correction.<br/><br/>As for holly  - Siva, via Elina, just spread...what not to read for greater religious understanding. And even a drunk could do it...the name calling hurts. Right in my soul, ka, atman, katra.