<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=257737.msg12757723#msg12757723">Quote from: pdragon on 05-11-2016, 20:15:23</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Alright then, taking this in a different direction, if AJ were to reach out and touch Akiyama's chest right now would that be considered harassment? Seeing how that would be his own chest he's touching? Because I feel like it would inherently contradict if you tried to have it both ways, does either original ownership or current ownership establish body rights?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>The last question is misleading, in my opinion, as it conflates ownership with possession, but both are not the same thing. What you call "current ownership" is possession, but that does not constitute ownership, as no "ownership rights" have been transferred. if someone steals your phone they gain possession, but they do not become the owner of your phone. As long as ownership is not handed over in some form (e.g. a contract), the original owner retains his/her rights to the object (or body part) in question.<br/><br/>So, lets say AJ touches his own chest currently on Akiyama. That's not harrasment because he can not violate his own ownership rights. If Akiyama were to get a tattoo on that chest while she has it, that would be a violation of AJs rights, just as AJ touching her breasts while they are on him are a violation of her rights, as ownership includes a final say on how the things you own can, or can not, be used.