<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=143885.msg6568961#msg6568961">Quote from: Mathim on 10-07-2012, 20:35:54</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Vel, you're a comic guy, can you answer a question? My friend I saw the Avengers with said it annoyed him that there was that 'council' appearing on all those TV's that Nicky Fury was answering to because it seemed cliche. Did that council really exist in the comic or did they just add that for the movie?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>It really depends on which comics he's read. While the SHIELD acronym has generally described a specific agency within the Marvel Universe... the letters in the name have changed multiple times over publication history. It really annoys me when people who are comic fans (or at least of the comics they have read) get irritated when things change. Because they have to change. Characters have passed through various authors and artists over the years, because people get old and they move on, etc. Mainly though, the reason I get annoyed with anal comic fans is because the true origin of all comics was writers and artists finding an avenue of expression that the general public and young adults could relate to.<br/><br/>Teens and young adults don't sit down and read the morning paper - and a big way they are able to relate to global news, events, and the changing times is through comics. Comics helped people get through the rough times (like the Veitnam War) and helped create some fantasy and intrigue and depth to something that seemed otherwise pointless to so many Americans. The beauty of comics is their ability to take real events and real settings, and make them relative to the younger generations. Over the decades even comic book characters slowly change with the culture, with revised costumes, new story arcs, etc. When I watch the new movies that come out, I don't look to see if they got it straight with the comics - because that wouldn't be relative at all with our culture (and really wouldn't sell well enough to warrant putting money into making a high-quality product).<br/><br/>I look to see if they captured the character properly, what kind of person they are and what they fight for. What they battle changes with the years, but each character generally has an identity and a specific battle they fight. I look to see if they got that right, and if the story doesn't seem too superficial - because the best comics always had several layers of depth to them. While children can appreciate the art and interesting characters and action in comics - I think adults like them because of the sophistication and the creativity of the artists and writers to make them feel believable - like it could actually happen in real life. If the movies can do that... then to me, it makes for a good comic movie.<br/><br/>Now to actually answer your question, the council used in the movie was supposedly the UN authorities from the powerhouse countries that have a voice in SHIELD - which over the years has always been a type of super-global government agency. For a while it was protrayed solely as an American Government Agency, but what it did often went beyond U.S. jurisdiction or realistic capabilities... so that's why it had more of a global feel. For the movie, to give SHIELD the type of power it actually operates with - in today's world it would have to be something involved with the UN - a secret agency of the UN... which is why I was kind of confused when the went with the Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division... instead of  Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate or Supreme Headquarters, International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. The last one was probably too cheesy... but the one they used seems too American Only. With the word 'homeland' in it. I would have gone with the Hazard Intervention and Espionage tag, because that's basically what they were in the movie - especially putting them under the UN's jurisdiction.<br/><br/>They were just trying to make it fit with todays world. The same way the movie Iron Man was about Tony getting capture in Afghanistan and escaping when in the comics it was Vietnam. Comic know-it-all's will cry and complain that what they are seeing isn't bringing the knowledge in their head to life... but someone that truly appreciates what a comic is will like these modern movies like the Amazing Spiderman, Iron-man, and the Incredible Hulk even though the way the characters got their powers is completely different from the comics. The essence of how they got there powers hasn't changed, and they did a great job illustrating the character's personal battles and the real core of the character. That's why I liked them. That's why I think the new Spiderman movie was pretty amazing. It was like a brought-to-life version of what any new Spiderman reboot would be like.<br/><br/>Anyhow... enough of my ranting. I think that the Avengers and the new Spiderman were awesome movies, even though they were completely different then the comic history - they successfully infused the true characters into our modern culture and current world events. The same goes for X-Men First Class. I thought most of the X-Men movies were terrible, because they jacked up all the characters... but in First Class they really captured so many of the characters true identities, and did a great job of placing them in a meaningful and influential place in American History - the Cuban Missile Crisis. Sure they weren't the ORIGINAL X-Men. But it was a good movie. And Magneto finally wasn't an old and past-his prime pussy. He was vicious, violent, and had an agenda that people could relate to. Rather than just being another weird bad guy who wants to take over the world. He was a very likeable character in the movies, and that's what he was in the comics. He's more of an anti-hero than an evil villain. He's just torn between doing the right thing by ALL people, and by protecting his family (mutants) first and foremost - which is a choice regular people actually have to make in real life at time.<br/><br/>Okay... I'm really done ranting now. Unless you ask me more questions... X.x