Both of them are actually a lot different to the MW4 designs; their legs are a lot further back, the<em>Cat IV</em>has a broader, flatter torso, the<em>Vulture IV</em>is broader as a whole ("Like a<em>Vulture</em>and a<em>Shadow Cat</em>had babies" said one guy) and so on<br/><br/>I must admit that I'm not a fan of most BT fan products and "Alternate Universe" storylines. Most of them seems to smack of "better then canon" wankery and/or butthurt over something bad happening to player X's favourite faction. Not saying that's the case here, but experiences have left a bad taste in the mouth.<br/><br/>With that being said, hasn't TRO63 been in development hell since forever?