<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I like the idea of one or more of the women getting coerced, or lied to, or forcibly put into the castle get-together.  What I don't want, however, is for the women to be doing things that are *only* painful and unpleasant for them; I want them to be enjoying it on some level, even if they don't realize it at first or can't admit it to themselves.  Hope that makes sense and matches up with everyone else's ideas.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>That is precisely what I meant. But I think that also falls in NC forum .. not entirely sure though.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">"Lucana's snooty girl suddenly turn submissive" ... hrmm??  Are you mixing us up with another thread maybe?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Sorry<strong>Lacuna</strong>that was a typo or rather I forgot your nick and mistyped from memory in a hurry. What I mean was if she plays a highclass snotty girl, its unrealistic for her to be suddenly submissive rather some sort of coercion, blackmail is natural at the start.