<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923455#msg2923455">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 10-04-2010, 01:37:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Having played Scion for a while, I wouldn't call it broken. There are a few things need tweaked, but they seem to have been identified on the forums, and a few commonly adopted house rules sort the worst offenders.<br/><br/>The style is high power play though. You don't have the usual "hide the weird stuff" vibe, if you choose not to do it. Admittedly our own group has tended to do that, but it's not a requirement of the game. You want to take over your own country, you can do it. But you'll be in the public eye then, and there is always something nastier than you. :)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>As I said, never played it. I was just told that it is more broken than Exalted, and decided not to invest in buying the corebook. Exalted is broken enough for me ;). Sure, house rules can fix that considerably, but even with houserules that make the PCs much tougher, I found that I just need a Paranoia Combo.<br/>I'm fine with the high-powered vibe, although I'm more experienced with low-powered games. But that's more because I like historical games and the like ;D.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923455#msg2923455">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 10-04-2010, 01:37:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I like them all :)<br/><br/>L5R is a samurai themed game. 4th ed is on the way, if you're thinking of looking into it more. MY longest running campaign was 3 years doing the City of Lies for L5R. Technically we finished the main part of the campaign 6 months before the end, but my players wouldn't let me stop til they'd solved all the mysteries :)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Well, my default samurai game is GURPS 4th ed with Martial arts and GURPS: Japan, or just a book on Japanese history. If you are familiar with GURPS, what are the advantages of L5R for Japanese games, if any?<br/>Either way, I'm going to look into it after the next edition is out. I know who's going to buy it, persuading him to loan the book to me might be more of a problem ;D!<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923455#msg2923455">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 10-04-2010, 01:37:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Pff .. like you need to read the rules to get started ;)<br/><br/>Tell me, have you tried Scion, or are you going on 2nd hand info concerning the rules? I'm curious as to what you think is broken.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>As I said, I haven't. The GM of the Exalted game had, and I tend to believe him when it concerns mechanics.<br/>I think he mentioned something about Epic Dexterity, but on the other hand, I might have read this in a forum. As I said, I'm not attacking the game, just remembered the process of choosing the next game. Scion didn't get many votes ;).<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923455#msg2923455">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 10-04-2010, 01:37:20</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Oh yes, quite familiar with this :)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I thought you would be 8-).<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923473#msg2923473">Quote from: MadPanda on 10-04-2010, 01:42:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Funny you should say that, Thufir.  I prefer Scion (warts and all) to Exalted.  Something about streamlining parts of a crunchy process.  But then I'm a light system sort of Panda.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Again, I really can't comment on that. Personally, I do both light systems and crunchy ones. But then, I also believe that when you understand a system, it's light to you, and you can explain it to others in a really condensed form. As an example, I explained GURPS 4th edition to a guy tonight, and it took me less than a minute. But then, I usually use GURPS to introduce new players, just because I have the basics down, and you can run the game by the basic rules.<br/>I couldn't do that with D&D, so it's too crunchy to me. But I don't claim that D&D is a bad system, just not a good fit for me.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923473#msg2923473">Quote from: MadPanda on 10-04-2010, 01:42:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">In re: system vs. freeform, I do both.  They both have advantages and disadvantages, depending on what you want to do.  Trying to use a system for a light and fluffy romance is...not quite right.  ;D  On the other hand, trying to freeform tactical combat?  Ow.  Ow ow.  Ow ow ow.  Trying to use Phoenix Command, or RoleMaster?  Fuggedaboudit.  I'd rather play Advanced Squad Leader...<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Well, I seldom play just "light and fluffy". I want a conflict in order to get interested. With that in mind, my preferences are not surprising, aren't they?<br/>By the way, what about Shooting the Moon? I thought it's all about love triangles.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52106.msg2923473#msg2923473">Quote from: MadPanda on 10-04-2010, 01:42:56</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Tes, Tomb of Horrors is a party-killer.  No, none of us survived.  It didn't help that the DM hadn't actually read the module before starting it.  So sue us.  We were eleven.<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>So, it's as dangerous as I have heard ;).<br/>But why should anyone sue you? If you had fun, it was a good game!<br/>The reason we are not using modules is, by the way, there were almost no available modules when I got into RPGs. We just had to learn how to GM without them.<br/>And once you learn how to GM without modules, and you make it work, why should you start using them?