<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239093.msg12025019#msg12025019">Quote from: MasterOfMyFate on 27-01-2016, 00:30:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">But then being Batman, he would've gone to the finite amount of magical friends to counter Doom. Not saying he would learn magic in a weeks notice, but they're many items of enchantment that could wade Dooms power exponentially for him to be sucked into the Phantom Zone.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>This is<em>Doom.</em>Considering they both have the same amount of prep time, do you really think that Doom wouldn't anticipate an attempt to sap his magical powers? If Bats is allowed to go to his magical friends and get artefacts that he wouldn't normally have access to, then Doom is allowed to go to the various Magical villains who "owe him one" or who he has made alliances with in the past to get an artefact that blocks such attempts; we know from the comics that such artefacts exist in both universes, so to think that Doom could get his hands on one is not really all that far fetched. So they'd cancel each other out.<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239093.msg12025019#msg12025019">Quote from: MasterOfMyFate on 27-01-2016, 00:30:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I'm not the guy to ask for Magic in comics, but I do know that Zatanna, Constantine, and maybe even Dr. Fate would have a lot of insight on Doom to give to Batman.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Not really, actually...Doom keeps most of his full capabilities under wraps, and since he's never encountered Fate and Constantine and Zatanna, they would have limited information on him. Bats would probably have more info than them in his STARTING folder :P<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239093.msg12025019#msg12025019">Quote from: MasterOfMyFate on 27-01-2016, 00:30:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Especially considering I'm really downplaying the resources Batman keeps at his disposal.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>As am I with Doom. Batman has Wayne Enterprises? Doom rules an entire country. Hell, in the current comics, he's ruler of<em>Battleworld.</em>So Doom has much, much more resources that Batman does.<br/><br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239093.msg12025019#msg12025019">Quote from: MasterOfMyFate on 27-01-2016, 00:30:09</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"><strong>coughyellowlanternringcough</strong>. </blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Nope. Sorry, but I'm discounting Yellow Lantern Ring here. I mean "Base form" Doom and Batman, not with their temporary power ups (because he WILL lose that Yellow Ring eventually). Quite frankly, if Batman gets his Yellow Lantern Ring, then it's only fair that Doom gets one of HIS temporary Power Boosts from the comics. Considering that he's stolen The Power Cosmic from Galactus before<div class="spoiler_container"><div class="spoiler_header" onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button">Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide</div><div class="spoiler_body">(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m552/ockap1812/DoomCosmicCube06_zps536a3386.jpg)</div></div>and that at the moment, he is basically Omnipotent (he stole the powers of The Beyonders, who are basically Gods, and combined them so that he had power enough to literally reshape the Multiverse according to his whims and is now the Omipotent, undisputed God of Battleworld), if Batman gets his Yellow Lantern Ring, Doom gets either Cosmic or Beyonder powers...and Batman loses by default.<br/><br/>So I'm removing their temporary upgrades and using their "base" forms without external powerups.<br/><br/>EDIT:<br/><br/><br/><div class="spoiler_container"><div class="spoiler_header" onclick="hideSecond (this);" role="button">Just A Taste of Beyonder Doom's powers:</div><div class="spoiler_body">(http://www.idoc.co/files/b6581291c55ad28fef-0.jpg)<br/><br/><br/>(http://www.idoc.co/files/30315d152b28c8d9b9-0.jpg)</div></div>