<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote">Quote</div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Also, the main bonus for really hard DCs for tumble checks is your ability to add skill ranks and skill boosts to things.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>I'm not sure what you mean here. There's no way any of us has a tumble skill over 12, and probably not over 9, so a -15 makes Tumbling very foolish.  Also, none of us has Cat's Grace, save Kasumi, and she can't use it on others.<br/><br/>If we can use aid, to add +2 to each other's rolls, that will help...  the main point here is, we're going to fail at some point, it just matters when.  And if only unintelegent undead notice us, a readied action will make the person who bumps into one seem to flash in and out, and the mindless undead will just surge, then stop, having no memory.<br/>