<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=221520.msg10890024#msg10890024">Quote from: LuciferOs on 14-01-2015, 11:44:37</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Your a rogue, your effort would be better than ours :)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Trueish I guess tho its a Untrained Dex modifier XD<br/><br/>Actually due to the fact i have both no tools and its untrained its very much a impossible task for me. a simple lock DC is 30 for me and I cant use Disable device untrained which even if I could only nets me a +4 to the check meaning I max at 24.