<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239807.msg11892443#msg11892443">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 12-12-2015, 14:16:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Okay, I think I see how it was done.<br/><br/>Awakened Carnal Demiurge can raise the appearance by 1 (to above above 5), and has an indefinite duration, for as long as the motes are committed. Thousand Courtesan Ways does effectively the same thing.<br/><br/>The book does mention that a character can't increase their stat above 5 normally, which this isn't doing. Effectively it becomes a bonus for a scene of infinite length. My only question would be whether or not these bonus points are supposed to stack or not.</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Hn. That's a good question.<br/><br/>So, from what I can tell, Awakened Carnal Demiurge is the Solar actualizing her inner presence in a powerfully external form by speaking. It takes 5 minutes to activate, though, so I am getting the feeling that it is more intended as a preparatory measure - psyching yourself up in front of a mirror, maybe?<br/><br/>Thousand Courtesan Ways, by contrast, is a reflexive charm that represents the Solar shifting behaviors slightly, such that every motion becomes a temptation. For instance, picking up a teacup and drinking in<em>just</em>the right way that the attention of those around the Solar is drawn to her lips, or her wrists, etc. This makes it possible to seduce people without first targeting or instilling intimacies in them. She may also use this for innuendo, such that a discussion about politics (where she is attempting to learn where his loyalties lie) becomes charged with eroticism.The appearance bonus here is scene long, even if the other effects are indefinite, by the looks of this. Even though there's no mention of committing motes, I would assume that she would need to keep them committed after the scene's end in order to maintain the benefits of the charm.<br/><br/>Hm... I'm not sure how I want to rule on this, honestly. On one hand, I don't know if it<em>breaks</em>the game to interpret them as stacking (especially as there's nothing saying they don't...) but on the other, they seem to be representing different things. What are you guys thinking here?<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=239807.msg11892443#msg11892443">Quote from: HairyHeretic on 12-12-2015, 14:16:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">She's never, ever, ever going to get any peace in a bar though :P<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>Or even on a street, if she's activated those Charms. I mean, did you see people's reaction to Starlight? A lot of people are going to be staring at them. There may be attempted kidnappings. Stuff like that.