Sorry--meant to answer these earlier.  Here you go<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=261478.msg12900796#msg12900796">Quote from: Hexed on 12-01-2017, 16:09:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">1) how long ago was the big event that made things so bad?  Is the way things are all anyone knows or do people actually remember being there when the shut hit the fan?</blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>Well, the Immortal Emperor managed to pull everything back together 847 years ago, so anyone functionally immortal like the vampires might well be old enough to remember the Cataclysm.  (Ghosts don't count because it's kind of hard to get sane and coherent answers out of anything that old.)  Ditto for demons. But for bog-standard humans?  Not likely.  So things are the way they are, and while there's tales about how stuff used to be different, you work with what you have.<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=261478.msg12900796#msg12900796">Quote from: Hexed on 12-01-2017, 16:09:15</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">2) I know it's a small crew but is it a new one or a gang trying to reclaim a lost glory?<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>This is entirely up to the group.  I don't get to dictate stuff like that.  :-)  Says so right in my rules of engagement...<br/><br/><div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=261478.msg12902434#msg12902434">Quote from: Crash on 13-01-2017, 03:44:59</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Or there could be sewer tunnels under the building. ;)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>We will know for sure when the full city maps are released, because one set is supposed to have the sewers and lower canals all marked out.  heh heh heh.<br/><br/>(UPDATING AGAIN?)