<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=52661.msg2684468#msg2684468">Quote from: Katina Tarask on 29-01-2010, 18:28:27</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">Er... wasn't that the ruling with base classes you don't have?  Prestige Training to get in the door on base classes, Capstone to go from there.  Or could I just start out with capstone to pick up Swordsage AC?<br/><br/>And... if there was retraining involved, then there, then there was some miscommunication.  I was under the impression that you were letting us acquire skill points (but not boost max ranks) as if we'd taken a level in the class by spending a feat.  (Far more reasonable than a thousand XP per skill point.)<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div><br/>No, the other way is actually really really unreasonable, and you only pick up the difference in skill ranks between your classes for 6,000xp.  (Since you have to switch out the 6th level in your class for the first level in another class, then switch back for 1,000xp)  So it's 1,000xp per skill point in the best of circumstances, the only difference being that you can substitute in first level class abilities.<br/><br/>I might consider creating a feat that requires intelligence 17 that gives you 8 skill points instead of 5, but I simply don't particularly see why 1,000xp per skill point is overpriced.  Obviously, class training for base attack bonus needs to be errataed to only provide a +1 bonus to be more balanced.<br/><br/>Also, the ruling on classes you don't have is that you can use their first and second level abilities with capstone training as long as they're not prestige classes.