Well, I don't really care about intent, in all fairness. It needlessly complicates things.<br/><br/>Defense was always the lowest of Wits or Dex, we just added in Athletics.<br/><br/>Plus...you can't beat a Werewolf down. At least, not in this situation. They regenerate 1 Bashing a turn. Surrendering is still allowed, but good luck beating him down.<br/><br/>I play pretty fast and loose with combat, at least in WoD. If this wasn't a friendly duel, I'd be involving the Beat Down rules.