<div class="quoteheader"><div class="topslice_quote"><a href="https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=191946.msg9320271#msg9320271">Quote from: ElvenKitten on 12-12-2013, 18:55:26</a></div></div><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">It's the little things like "lightning Storm in space" that annoyed me, it's this dumbing down of dialogue that ruins the trek feeling for me. It's as if someone wanted to make a trek film but wasn't allowed to use anything scientific. I mean trek has had an uneasy relationship with science before. The voyager and Enterprise writers don't know what deuterium is and B'Elanna Torres literally can't identify shit with a tricorder. <br/><br/>I think everyone has an idea of what Trek is to them and unfortunately the new movies aren't Star Trek to me. Not gonna argue about it, it's just how I feel. Also 4th edition D&amp;D can die in a cockfire  :P Kidding  ;D<br/></blockquote><div class="quotefooter"><div class="botslice_quote"></div></div>I agree. The dialogue and the complete lack of science is what gets me about the new movies too. Although, despite the flack Voyager and Enterprise get, I do like them both. Though could be that Voyager was what I primarily grew up with and I adored a female captain, and as a tween I had a total crush on T'pol from Enterprise. But they did both get kinda odd and unlikable there for awhile. For Voyager it was when they started bringing the Borg in. For Enterpise it was when the time war crap started and I really hated how they ended it.<br/><br/>To be honest, (and don't hate me, but) NG is probably my least favorite. I liked a lot about it. But it was just so drab and politically correct. Everything was tan, they had to discuss everything. I strongly disliked Troi and wasn't that fond of Riker. I adored Data, Worf, and Ganin though, and had a crush on Jorgi. I also liked the ship, it's layout, and technology. Just didn't like the interior design.