‘Return to the office’ rhetoric needs to end
&gt; Those who cannot manage their time correctly and have to work past five to get things done and those who feel corporate pressure to work past five because others are doing it.<p>Doesn&#x27;t it depend on how much work you have to do?  Whatever amount of work you can get done while managing your time correctly and working 9-5, isn&#x27;t there some larger amount of work that your employer could expect&#x2F;demand of you?<p>Yes, the amount of work you can get done while managing your time correctly between 9 and 5 is different for different people (also different for the same person different weeks, for sure).  But this is why I&#x27;ve had trouble understanding &quot;oh, it doesn&#x27;t matter how many hours I work as long as I get my work done, the work they expect of me.&quot; What is the &quot;work they expect of me&quot;? For me, putting in (roughly, on average) the time my employer expects me to work is the work they expect of me, it&#x27;s what allows me to push back if they try to assign <i>more</i> work than fits in, if they try to just keep adding more &quot;priorities&quot;.  I can, agile-style, work on whatever you say are your top priorities, for the X hours a week you expect me to work -- what I get done in that time is what I get done, it is unreasonable of you to expect more. This only works if I&#x27;m really working that time though, my end of things.<p>This seems relevant to me because, from the worker&#x27;s perspective, it is one of the the things people suggest as advantages to working from home, in these forums -- hey, I can work half days every day, as long as I &quot;get my work done&quot;.  (There is even someone in this thread suggesting someone could &quot;get their work done&quot; working an hour every day. Presumably if their bosses knew that they would assign more work, and be right to do so?).