France Plans 5% Digital Tax as Governments Chase Internet Giants
This reminds me of a horrible tax I came to know of recently - something called the EU VAT MOSS on digital goods. Apparently, it is supposed to target giants like Amazon who route money via multiple countries to evade taxes. Not surprisingly, this ends up affecting the smallest players most drastically. Worst, the glib language used to describe <i>who</i> should pay the tax is utterly confusing. As always, this means the actual target company of this tax chalks it down as yet another thing they need to remember (amongst a million other things), while the tiniest players who are starting out and who don&#x27;t reside in the EU will have to worry and stress endlessly about the stupidity of dealing with something like this.<p>Here is what I have learnt about Eurocrats: a) they don&#x27;t understand economics b) they definitely don&#x27;t understand unintended consequences c) I am willing to bet not one of them has ever bootstrapped a successful venture and finally d) there is a good reason why no country in Europe is able to create its own Silicon Valley - they are just too busy creating more busywork for themselves.<p>And to the well-intentioned person who comes along and says &quot;Well, if you are clearly not the target of this, then why do you even worry?&quot; I have a question - if it turns out that you are wrong, are you going to pay the taxes on my behalf? Actually, this is literally what I asked a friend of mine from Europe who expressed that sentiment. Not surprisingly, he wasn&#x27;t really willing to put his money where his mouth was.<p>I am frankly astonished by all the people from EU who come in and comment things like &quot;Oh, you don&#x27;t really know how European laws <i>actually</i> work. If you did, then you wouldn&#x27;t be worried&quot;. Do you not have nothing better to do in life than trying to understand the nuances between the &quot;letter of the law&quot; and the &quot;spirit of the law&quot; in every country around the world?<p>Oh, and by the way - HN will be very interested to know this: right now, there is a company called Paddle which is a Stripe competitor - and this one law (EU VAT MOSS) seems to have single handedly revived this company. It was (and apparently still is) a painful software to use, and Stripe is faaar superior in terms of API and integrations [1], but Paddle has now become the defacto choice [2] for everyone who actually cares about the EU VAT MOSS because Paddle handles all the annoying crap on your behalf. My guess is, Stripe - which is too Silicon Valley focused - is going to be blindsided by EU VAT MOSS, hand over a lot of their next generation of customers to Paddle, and won&#x27;t even know what hit them in a few years if they don&#x27;t pay careful attention to what is going on here.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiehackers.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;anyone-using-paddle-for-subscriptions-experiences-7d0c5fe4f6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiehackers.com&#x2F;forum&#x2F;anyone-using-paddle-for-s...</a>
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