Dr. Garry Nolan Talks at Salt Conference NYC
Transcript:<p>I&#x27;m curious
do you believe that extraterrestrial
intelligence
has visited planet Earth
I think you can go a step further it
hasn&#x27;t just visited it&#x27;s been here a
long time and it&#x27;s still here
uh and it has a basically
um you know people talk about the wow
signal looking for extraterrestrial
intelligence the wow signal is that
people see it on an almost regular basis
that&#x27;s the communication that&#x27;s already
here and and that statement seems so
incredible that it it&#x27;s tough to believe
right people hear that and maybe a lot
of people here hear that and they don&#x27;t
believe it and so I&#x27;m curious
if you had to assign a probability to
that statement that you believe
extraterrestrial intelligence has
visited visited this planet what
probability would you assign a hundred
percent
and that&#x27;s not just my opinion I mean
look
um
the National Defense appropriation Act
passed last year signed by by Biden in
uh December
30 pages of that is the establishment of
an unidentified aerial phenomenon office
the establishments of looking into the
harm that&#x27;s happened to an even number
of the individuals going back to 1945
and looking at the disinformation and
misinformation that has been uh
basically articulated over the decades
12 U.S senators have signed on to a
document that basically says we want the
information the establishment of an
office arrow in the Department of
Defense has 25 people working in it
right now and what&#x27;s their what&#x27;s their
goal collecting the information across
all over the uh all of the U.S
department of intelligence sorry
Department of Defense intelligence
offices and Coalition of that into a
uniform format for the very first time
and provision of that then to Congress
the creation of a whistleblowers program
specifically that allows people from the
from within who I&#x27;m going to say this
who&#x27;ve been working on the reverse
engineering programs reverse engineering
of objects so that they can come in and
break their Oaths but it&#x27;s specifically
just to talk to Congress and give that
information in classified settings and
that the most recent one that happened
was just last weekend and it created
quite
a hornet&#x27;s nest in Washington and and so
let&#x27;s just create kind of like a logical
framework here so we started the top we
say now there&#x27;s 100 probability that
extraterrestrial intelligence has
visited Earth now we have to go down to
why that statement may be true why you
believe that statement is true what is
the evidence and I think perhaps we all
may have to read between the lines a
little bit here you may not maybe
divulge everything but in your opinion
what do you believe to be the most
compelling evidence to support that
statement well I think the most
compelling evidence is you just need to
look at what your government is doing
right now about it I mean just go and
look at the number of uh politicians and
this is interesting on both sides of the
aisle who have come together and signed
off on this statement I mean I was
involved last year with putting together
some of the wording of that uh of that
uh the ndaa which was passed into law so
I mean so what are they basing their
opinions on they&#x27;re basing their
opinions on the dozens of individuals
who in one manner or another have come
forward and talked to them in classified
settings
so that&#x27;s the first thing then my
personal experiences with the
individuals who are who well the one
person who actually was involved with
collecting a lot of that original
information uh and then my experience
with people who frankly I know have
worked or are working on the reverse
engineering programs okay so let&#x27;s let&#x27;s
take one step back reverse engineering
programs of downed craft now the first
question that people will ask is well if
they&#x27;re so freaking Advanced why are
they why are they crashing
because what&#x27;s
crashing is not actual living things I
mean if you I use this example a lot if
you wanted to study a tribe of cannibals
in the middle of the Amazon are you
going to go yourself and show up in the
middle of the of the tribe and not
hopefully become dinner on the other
side of it so if you&#x27;re an advanced
intelligence you know I don&#x27;t think
we&#x27;re all that advanced frankly
um you&#x27;re not going to basically put
your your uh life and limb at risk by
coming here so mostly what you&#x27;re seeing
here are either drones or some sort of
advanced AI or whatever it is I mean
look we&#x27;re we&#x27;re already we&#x27;re already
dealing with a an alien intelligence
in our own emails right our own uh you
know chat GPT Etc we don&#x27;t even know
what it&#x27;s doing so imagine if you were a
million years ahead of us uh how do you
how do you have a dialogue with
something like that or what is it that
could possibly do yeah and I&#x27;m glad I&#x27;m
glad that we&#x27;ve got some people here to
witness these statements I think they&#x27;re
very consequential and so we start with
now 100 probability of extraterrestrial
intelligence we go to evidence we now
talk about down craft we see the the
government moving in a certain direction
presumably the downcraft is made of some
material presumably we could test that
material I know you&#x27;ve done a little bit
of work firsthand you have seen some
material do you want to talk about that
a little bit right well um you know so
what is it that you hope to discover out
of a material so let&#x27;s just go back I
mean just briefly uh and and why would
you want to do it in the first place so
basically a grain of silicon you know
back in the 50s or 60s changed our
entire culture and world right I mean so
something as small as that the discovery
of what you could accomplish with a
little piece of germanium uh doped with
the right uh elements changed our
understanding now so we have multiple
simultaneous sensor systems that have
seen these objects go from 50 feet above
the water to up to 14 miles and then
back in less than a second all right I
mean that&#x27;s just a truth the U.S
government has confirmed that these
kinds of measurements have done now
they&#x27;re very careful what they say they
say well we have no evidence of E.T well
because you know no ET is going to come
walking in here and say hello right but
um if you read between the lines on the
flip side of it it does stuff that we
can&#x27;t do we know that the Russians and
the Chinese are not doing
and so if you can go from zero to five
thousand miles an hour and take a a
right turn and not end up squished like
a bug on the windscreen on the other
side if they have windscreens uh then
what is the physics that accomplishes
that
so what that tells you is that we need
to rethink our physics first of all to
say that well you know we saw birds fly
so it took us 3000 years we figured out
how to fly but now we see these things
doing this so what is it that that lets
us do so I know some of the physicists
on the inside who work at some of these
big defense corporations who basically
oh well here&#x27;s how you tweak even
general relativity to accomplish that
but then you say well how much energy is
needed to do it well more than the whole
nuclear output of the planet per day per
movement so you start to backtrack and
you say okay well who could do that well
we can&#x27;t will we be able to do it in a
thousand years but if we had a piece of
any of this let&#x27;s say it&#x27;s a thousand uh
uh revolutions ahead of us or a million
revolutions ahead of us even a tiny
piece of knowledge from that could
revolutionize what it is that we&#x27;re
doing I&#x27;m always I&#x27;m always looking for
the opportunity I look at the at the
upside of this I&#x27;m not worried about
them coming and you know raiding us or
yeah taking our women and children uh
that&#x27;s not my concern my concern is how
do we use it yeah yeah and
and I&#x27;m curious do you have confidence
that
you us collectively will have material
literal physical material to evaluate to
analyze yes 100 I&#x27;m 100 again it&#x27;s there
it&#x27;s there it&#x27;s I mean I can say this I
I was working with a group about seven
eight years ago and I literally got
within a few weeks of gaining access to
one of the um one of the objects and
when the people who didn&#x27;t want us to
gain access to it found out about it
they pulled some bureaucratic
administrative tricks and snatched it
away it&#x27;s wild and and so so now we have
you Dr Nolan making this bold statement
you are well positioned to make this
statement now maybe we get into like
some fun let&#x27;s like feel comfortable
hypothesizing a little bit as to what is
happening like what what is it right
like nobody&#x27;s gonna hold you to this
right now maybe we go down from 100
probability to now we&#x27;re speculating
right okay now let&#x27;s speculate together
what what do you think it is right so to
to do that I&#x27;ll start with kind of a
mantra I&#x27;ve had for the last
while
so you know individual experiences of
what people see is an anecdote but an
anecdote doesn&#x27;t convince a scientist
what&#x27;s a convinces what is it that
convinces a scientist data right what
doesn&#x27;t convince scientists a conclusion
so really the objective here and what
has allowed me to actually talk to some
of my scientist colleagues who first
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