A Theory of Creepiness
I found this reddit comment interesting:<p>&gt; [–][deleted] 3796 points 2 years ago*x2<p>Lots of Indian dudes are great guys. Most, even. Smart, funny, sociable, kind, handsome, eyes to kill for, the works.<p>But just as with every group, some aren&#x27;t. Some are creeps. Usually creeps have no idea that they&#x27;re creeps, don&#x27;t understand why they&#x27;re creeps, and get mad when people call them creeps. So why are Indian dudes so often creeps? Well, for the same reasons any guy is a creep, with a few cultural factors thrown in. I&#x27;ll try to explain why in a way that encompasses creepdom as a whole, and which I think might be comprehensible to creeps. Now, if I could establish an informal Creepiness Quotient to describe the feeling someone gives you in the first few seconds they&#x27;re hitting on you, I would do it as follows.<p>Creepiness = ( (Awkwardness x Forwardness) &#x2F; (Attractiveness) ) ^ Persistence<p>Now, let&#x27;s look at the factors here, with &quot;you&quot; being a nonspecific potential creep who is hitting on &quot;me,&quot; a nonspecific person of sexual interest:<p>Awkwardness is the extent to which you demonstrate your inability to operate effectively in my chosen social environment. A person who cannot initiate or maintain a comfortable conversation with me is an unappealing choice of partner. Immigrants often score highly on Awkwardness, which is natural--they&#x27;re working in an unfamiliar social environment. I think that&#x27;s unfortunate, because usually it&#x27;s not at all their fault.<p>Forwardness is the extent to which you convey that your goal is purely to use me as a sex-thing. If I think you like me because I&#x27;m interesting, this is noncreepy and good. If I think you like me because my part fits your part, that is creepy and bad. Men from some cultures tend to be more forward than men from others, depending on the appropriate gender roles in their societies. In my own personal experience, Indians are high on the Forwardness list. I&#x27;m not remotely qualified to offer a guess as to why, beyond &quot;lol culture&quot; which is not explanatory of anything.<p>Attractiveness is a saving grace! Maybe you&#x27;re hot, maybe you&#x27;ve got a great voice, maybe you&#x27;ve got nice arms, maybe you told a great joke, maybe I like your clothes, maybe you belong to the same subculture I do. Maybe you aren&#x27;t an obese scuzzlord with halitosis who smells like BO and salmonella. Rules #1 and #2 aren&#x27;t all there is, but they definitely help. I don&#x27;t think your ethnicity makes you more or less likely to be attractive as a rule, though some individual people have some degree of preference.<p>Persistence is bad news. Persistence is when you don&#x27;t take &quot;no&quot; for an answer. Persistence is when you apply pressure, is when you get aggressive or defensive, and is when you demand explanations for why I won&#x27;t date you. At high levels, persistence is when you start to give off rape vibes. Persistence is what you get when someone believes they are entitled to sex with me or entitled to a relationship with me, and my opinion on the matter is an inconvenience. Persistence is a creepiness multiplier. An awkward, unattractive dude who says &quot;ey, you got nice tits, I got a nice dick, so, wanna fuck&quot; then leaves when I say no? He&#x27;s creepy, yes. A dude who is otherwise normal but who won&#x27;t leave me alone? Way creepier.
In my experience, this is where so many Indian guys lose it: the entitlement&#x2F;persistence factor. Begin with traditional gender roles, teach them to a child of a rich businessman in a society with sharply defined social classes, who has always gotten everything he wants, and who is somewhat inclined to see people &#x27;below&#x27; him as less deserving of consideration. Then turn that child into a STEMlord engineering student who has had minimal successful contact with actual human beings. That&#x27;s a recipe for a guy who thinks he deserves women but doesn&#x27;t have any idea about how to &#x27;get&#x27; them. So he gets persistent, because hey, that&#x27;s how you succeed at anything, right, you just find what you want and take it? And now he&#x27;s creepy as fuck.<p>This whole thing is of course not limited to Indian dudes. Any guy can be a creeper, for similar reasons as above. But if you&#x27;re asking why so many Indian students in Western universities are creepers, well, that&#x27;s why: unfamiliarity with their new nation&#x27;s social norms and gender roles (Awkwardness and Forwardness) combined with a disturbing sense of entitlement and an inability to handle disappointment (Persistence) means high creepiness.
EDIT: Women can be creeps too, of course. In the above, I assume the creep is a man, partially for ease of pronoun use, and partially as an reflection of the relatively higher incidence of male creeps.<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;cringepics&#x2F;comments&#x2F;21gf9b&#x2F;i_get_more_pussy_than_u_ever_will&#x2F;cgd2x3b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;cringepics&#x2F;comments&#x2F;21gf9b&#x2F;i_get_mo...</a>