Why Hong Kong Is Still Marching
Being one of the protestor out of 2m and feet still hurt after 8 hour walking and stopping among children but mostly young man, let me try to supplement that article  why especially those not mentioned in the article.<p>This related to two most common slogans shouted by the 2m.  (The 3rd most common one is “Hong Kong Add Oil” not an issue per sec. )<p>(a) Withdrawn not suspension<p>In 2003 the first million protest after handover, a even worst law called article 23 was called for.  It was ignored just last jun 9 walk, but later withdraw.  There is no million walk into street since.<p>Hence the precedent is clear.  Withdrawn should be done.  Instead the administration just do a suspension. I do not know why prof chan used the phrase indefinitely. That is not in chinese.  In fact the message that this is suspicion only temporary is clear.  Whilst no timetable, the chief executive said her experience of consultation would take until end of this year.  Not indefinitely. There is even a statement by the Chinese authority also stressed this temporary arrangement and in fact promise to chase after the behind-the-scene power.<p>Hence the major slogan of the 2nd protest is to withdrawn the bill not suspension.<p>(b) No riot and release those arrested<p>There are the issue of the declaration of riot around 3 or 6 p.m.  Lots of people will be charged under this dreadful law where 7-10 years may be involved.  Even standby could be charged if you are on site after that time.  The law was drafted by the British against the chinese communist in 1960s during the cultural revolution era.  Police can declare and arrest any gathering ... funny is that there are exception to this like religion gathering which the police cannot declare as riot. But in general police can declare and do arrest.  Some of the cases should be charged as police excess of force, like aim and shoot a protestor from behind when he is a long way and just walking. Now using the law it will be the other way round. The guy might be charged and found guilty as part of riot gathering. (In fact, no one told on the scene that a riot is going on.  Nothing throwing, no burning, no glass broken, ... etc.    You may see throwing stuff in tv but that is much earlier and another group.  The bulk of the peaceful demonstrator are not involved. In fact the official press interview at 3 pm by the commissioner of police is stated as disturbance. There is some argument spent out who declare riot in the press release later at 6 pm. Hence I am not sure about the timing.  Just to distance himself, the chief secretary (deputy to the top lady CE) said the top management do not know about the declaration.  They do support whatever the commissioner did.)<p>We asked for the withdrawn of that declaration and release the arrested.<p>(One of the major upset is to two arrest of patient in Hosiptal.  The doctor and nurse do not report the case and somehow the police come and arrest them.  ... too many details here but by and large the medical profession seriously not like this. There are procedure and the police did not follow them.  Relationship is very poisonous now between the two.)<p>There are other usual demands like held accountable of the case.  And other slogans, some quite nasty as Cantonese is a very nasty language.  When 10646 was defined, some found it odd by the hk extension is full of male and female description.  Hundreds of them. Sorry for the kids to expose during the 2m match.  But that is the language. Can’t no blood wine or poem ...<p><i></i>*<p>Back to the extradition law, not mention is the public object to it as we do not trust the chinese legal system.<p>(Btw usually extradition law apply to foreigner not citizen).<p>Further not mention is the diplomat of Eu, Britain and official from different camps of USA are raised official diplomatic objection.  It is not just about local citizen.  There are 85,000 American lives in Hong Kong currently.  There is no consultation whatsoever. And it seemed the discussion is about reading the bill to them.<p>In this regards, even strange is the ignorance of Taiwan in the process, even though it was used as the key reason for the rush.<p>Btw, found out today that even macau our sister region has thought about it and do not enacted similar law.<p>I think a better law will at least consult stakeholder so majority are on your side. Then you can crush ...<p>Anyway as commented living between powers like china and USA is not easy.  You can access Facebook then not just 20 km north (hong kong is that small).  Really not good to unite literally the whole world against you and also your own city wholly against you as well.<p>As mentioned in the article after the umbrella movement there are a lot of bad blood. But she not just united the democratic camp but even the pro-establishment camp.<p>Great political achievement in a sense.  Too tired and hope it is not too confusing.<p>Hong Kong Add Oil.