Did the Greeks see themselves as white, black, or something else?
Greeks didn&#x27;t care for black or white -- they cared for cultural ties (language, religion, customs, etc).<p>Their word to collectively describe foreigners is literally &quot;those who speak in an indecipherable language&quot;: &quot;barbarians&quot;, where &quot;bar-bar&quot; was meant to be a vocalization of a random foreign language (like we would say &quot;blah blah&quot;).<p>That said, they were white in the sense that modern Greeks, southern italians, and middle easterns (Egyptians, Lebanese and so on), eastern turks, and so on, are white. And modern Greeks still are closely related to those ancients according to studies [1][2], so you could look at George Stephanopoulos (both parents Greek-American immigrants) for a quick example.<p>There weren&#x27;t however &quot;white&quot; with a modern European and American conception of &quot;whiteness&quot; which restricts it to anglosaxon populations.<p>In fact when they started immigrating to the US in the late 19th, early 20th century, they were considered decidely &quot;non-white&quot; material, and were subject to abuse and racist attacks (including being a major target for the KKK) [3][4]. At the time, the same was true also for Italians, Bulgarians, Albanians, Jews, and so on -- even Japanese and Chinese immigrants.<p>Generally, &quot;white&quot; then was whatever fitted the WASP look and worldview. So it wasn&#x27;t just about skin pigmentation.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2017&#x2F;08&#x2F;greeks-really-do-have...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&#x2F;smart-news&#x2F;dna-analysis-sheds-light-mysterious-origins-ancient-greeks-180964314&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&#x2F;smart-news&#x2F;dna-analysis-sheds...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ahepa.org&#x2F;about-us.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ahepa.org&#x2F;about-us.htm</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thenationalherald.com&#x2F;171404&#x2F;no-greeks-need-apply&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thenationalherald.com&#x2F;171404&#x2F;no-greeks-need-appl...</a>