<p>What is discrete is the time dimension, not the range of capital, the values that it can take. Also, at the steady-state we have <span class="math-container">$k_{t+1}=k_t = k^*(s)$</span>. So proceed as in the continuous-time case.</p>

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I need to find golden rule saving rate, i.e. maximize consumption. How can I do that without derivative?
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@Ksenia But you can take derivatives. The other answer posted gives a detailed explanation.
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<p>As Alec Papadopulous said, Solow model in <strong>discrete time</strong> means that time cannot take all the values on the positive real line, but some discrete values only, so that the variables, <strong>thought of as function of time</strong>, take only values in correspondence of those discrete values of time. <strong>Continuous time</strong> model means that time varies continuously, that is it takes all the value of an interval (say the positive values) of the real line.</p>
<p>But that's all. The discrete  values concern  <strong>only time</strong>. Only time is discrete.</p>
<p>On the contrary, the other variables and functions are 'normal' variables and functions, <strong>defined on intervals of <span class="math-container">$\mathbb{R}$</span>.</strong>
So, functions as the intensive production function <span class="math-container">$f(k)$</span>, the saving function <span class="math-container">$sf(k)$</span> and so on, are not functions defined on discrete sets, and they are usually assumed to be differentiable, considered as function of <span class="math-container">$k$</span> or other variables of the model.</p>
<p>When deriving the <strong>Golden Rule</strong>, you look for the value of <span class="math-container">$s$</span> that maximizes, in steady state, the <em>per capita</em> consumption. This is a hypothetical, conceptual  experiment, time is not involved: you are comparing different steady states with different values of <span class="math-container">$s$</span>.</p>
<p>Therefore, you mustn’t differentiate anything with respect to time. The variable considered, with respect to which you are maximizing consumption, is the saving rate <span class="math-container">$s$</span>.  You must <strong>take the derivative</strong> <strong>with respect to the saving rate <span class="math-container">$s$</span></strong>, and no discrete variable is involved.</p>
<p>So, there is no difference between discrete and continuous time approaches to find the Golden Rule rate of saving, you can use the derivative in the same way in both cases.</p>
<p>For an explanation of how to derive the Golden Rule level of saving, see the answer of Alecos Papadopoulos in</p>
<p><a href="https://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/4674/deriving-the-golden-rule-savings-rate-in-a-solow-model?rq=1">Deriving the golden-rule savings rate in a Solow Model</a></p>

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In the task it was emphasized that I should derive the golden rule saving rate for discrete time, else “no points will be given”. Moreover, I don’t have any production function (the only function I have is the one in the picture).
Ksenia
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You should refer to the version of Solow model you studied. The formula in your question is the difference equation that rules the system, I suppose, so you have to find the steady state $k^*$ setting $k_{t+1}=k_t$, then to find the steady state consumption, then maximizing it with respect to $s$. By the way, you have a production function, is $f(k)$ in your formula. I think you should review  the Solow model. Without remembering the overall model  it is difficult to solve your problem. It is not a matter of discrete or continuous time, but of remembering the overall functioning of the model.
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<p>I have a discrete time Solow model and need to derive the golden rule for the economy by setting maximization problem. How can I do that, if I can’t take derivative?</p>
<p>Note: required investment can’t be approximated. <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/FPpK6.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FPpK6.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>

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# Discrete time Solow model golden rule saving rate

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-01-21)

I have a discrete time Solow model and need to derive the golden rule for the economy by setting maximization problem. How can I do that, if I can’t take derivative?

Note: required investment can’t be approximated. [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/FPpK6.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/FPpK6.jpg)

**Tags:** macroeconomics, solow, saving


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2023-01-21. Score: 2

What is discrete is the time dimension, not the range of capital, the values that it can take. Also, at the steady-state we have $k\_{t+1}=k\_t = k^\*(s)$. So proceed as in the continuous-time case.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I need to find golden rule saving rate, i.e. maximize consumption. How can I do that without derivative?  
> **username_1**: @username_0 But you can take derivatives. The other answer posted gives a detailed explanation.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2023-01-21. Score: 1

As Alec Papadopulous said, Solow model in **discrete time** means that time cannot take all the values on the positive real line, but some discrete values only, so that the variables, **thought of as function of time**, take only values in correspondence of those discrete values of time. **Continuous time** model means that time varies continuously, that is it takes all the value of an interval (say the positive values) of the real line.

But that's all. The discrete values concern **only time**. Only time is discrete.

On the contrary, the other variables and functions are 'normal' variables and functions, **defined on intervals of $\mathbb{R}$.**
So, functions as the intensive production function $f(k)$, the saving function $sf(k)$ and so on, are not functions defined on discrete sets, and they are usually assumed to be differentiable, considered as function of $k$ or other variables of the model.

When deriving the **Golden Rule**, you look for the value of $s$ that maximizes, in steady state, the *per capita* consumption. This is a hypothetical, conceptual experiment, time is not involved: you are comparing different steady states with different values of $s$.

Therefore, you mustn’t differentiate anything with respect to time. The variable considered, with respect to which you are maximizing consumption, is the saving rate $s$. You must **take the derivative** **with respect to the saving rate $s$**, and no discrete variable is involved.

So, there is no difference between discrete and continuous time approaches to find the Golden Rule rate of saving, you can use the derivative in the same way in both cases.

For an explanation of how to derive the Golden Rule level of saving, see the answer of username_1 username_1 in

[Deriving the golden-rule savings rate in a Solow Model](https://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/4674/deriving-the-golden-rule-savings-rate-in-a-solow-model?rq=1)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: In the task it was emphasized that I should derive the golden rule saving rate for discrete time, else “no points will be given”. Moreover, I don’t have any production function (the only function I have is the one in the picture).  
> **username_2**: You should refer to the version of Solow model you studied. The formula in your question is the difference equation that rules the system, I suppose, so you have to find the steady state $k^*$ setting $k_{t+1}=k_t$, then to find the steady state consumption, then maximizing it with respect to $s$. By the way, you have a production function, is $f(k)$ in your formula. I think you should review  the Solow model. Without remembering the overall model  it is difficult to solve your problem. It is not a matter of discrete or continuous time, but of remembering the overall functioning of the model.  

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