<p>I will try to do this at an intuitive level without being technical. If you want rigorous definitions of any of this I can edit my post. </p>

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<p>We need a way to mathematically model the consumption choices that an agent faces. To accomplish this, we use $\mathbb{R}^L_+$ to denote the agent's level of consumption of each of 1,2,..,L goods. </p>

<p>Vectors tie into this because we want to think about how much of each good an agent chooses when optimizing over her preferences. So we don't just think about how much of good $i$ the agent wants. We want to think about how much of good 1 the agent wants, good $2$ he wants, etc. simultaneously. So, there are tons of different "mixes" of these goods that an agent can afford (that belong to this agent's budget set given some prices and wealth) and one of those "mixes" (vectors) represents how much of each of the L goods an agent chooses to consume when maximizing his or her representative utility. </p>

<p>Now - Cartesian space. You should actually discuss the Cartesian coordinate system on Euclidean space. We use Cartesian coordinates to denote a point in Euclidean space. We could, for example, instead use polar coordinates to denote points in Euclidean space. </p>

<p>A metric space is a bit more complicated  but you can think of it (this is very simplified) as a space where the distance between any two points is well defined. The distances themselves are called a metric. Having a metric space allows us to use topological methods (for example, the concept of open balls when discussing the local non-satiation of preferences). The most common example of a metric space is three-dimensional Euclidean space. </p>

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Are there any computer graphics available which can help us visualise all these spaces because that can help us understand the concept better.Visualising N commodity vectors having n entries in an N -dimensional Euclidean space is pretty difficult.Computer graphics on this topic must be used by firms.Herein comes the role of graphic designers.
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<p>Of all the types of structures or spaces you mention, vector space <span class="math-container">$\mathcal{V}$</span> is the simplest type of structure. Other structures are constructed from this:</p>
<ol>
<li>A real vector space with an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_product_space" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><em>inner product</em></a> (which allows to define the ortogonality relation) is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Hilbert space</a> <span class="math-container">$\mathcal{H}$</span>.</li>
<li>An Euclidean space is an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affine_space" rel="nofollow noreferrer">affine space</a> <span class="math-container">$\mathcal{A}$</span>, a set of points, such that for every pair of points <span class="math-container">$P$</span> and <span class="math-container">$Q$</span> there is a a vector <span class="math-container">$\overrightarrow{PQ}$</span> of a finite dimensional Hilber space. In an Euclidean space you can define, distances, angles, points, etc. so you have a geometrical space.</li>
<li>A set of points with a distance is a metric space, Euclidean space is a metric space, but not every metric space is an Euclidean space.</li>
<li>A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debreu_theorems" rel="nofollow noreferrer">commodity space</a> is a set of points, where you can define a total order relation, which is continuous and has additional properties (some convex sets of the Euclidean spaces can become a commodity space, if you define some additional structure on them).</li>
<li>A Cartesian space, is just a set that can be expressed as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_product" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Cartesian product</a> of sets. Again, mutidimensional Euclidean space and many commodity spaces are particular instances of Cartesian spaces.</li>
</ol>

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<p>You have to distinguish between mathematical concepts and economic concepts.</p>
<p>Vector space, euclidean space, metric space, are mathematical concepts.
Commodity space is an economic concept.</p>
<p>The most basic spaces are <strong>vector spaces</strong> and <strong>metric spaces</strong>.</p>
<p>A <em>vector space</em> on <span class="math-container">$R$</span> is defined as a set <span class="math-container">$V$</span> (of elements of any nature) such that there are  two operations called <em>scalar multiplication</em> and <em>addition</em>, that satisfy a list of certain properties (too long to be described here).</p>
<p>Vector space is the fundamental concept of <em>linear algebra</em>.
The most well-known example of vector space is <span class="math-container">$R^n$</span>.</p>
<p>A <em>metric space</em> is defined as a set (of elements of any nature) on which is defined a function that is called <em>distance</em> or <em>metric</em>,  that satisfies specific axioms (too long to be  described here, but  you can easily find them on internet).</p>
<p>It is a generalization of the everyday concept of distance.</p>
<p>Vector spaces and metric spaces are two <strong>independent concepts</strong>: a vector space, on its own, is not a metric space and a metric space, on its own, is not a vector space.</p>
<p>In order to make a vector space a metric space, you have to define on it a distance.</p>
<p>This is the case of an euclidean space, that is a vector space (<span class="math-container">$R^n$</span>) on which is defined an <em>inner (or scalar) product</em>. It is possible to prove that an inner product induces a distance, so that an Euclidean space is a metric vector space.</p>
<p>An example of metric space that is not a vector space is the so-called <em>discrete space</em>, which is a set (of elements of any nature) on which is introduced a distance called the <em>discrete distance</em>.</p>
<p>The <strong>commodity space</strong>, instead, is an economic concept, that from a mathematical point of view can be seen as a vector space, in particular <span class="math-container">$R^n$</span>  if the number of commodities is <span class="math-container">$n$</span>.</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>&quot;A commodity vector (or commodity bundle ) is a list of amounts of the different commodities and can be viewed as a point in Rl,the commodity space. We can use commodity vectors to represent an individual's consumption levels.The lth entry of the commodity vector stands for the amount of commodity l consumed”.</p>
<p>That is, the vectors in <span class="math-container">$R^n$</span> are <strong>interpreted</strong> as bundles of goods, but this is an economic interpretation, and not a mathematical concept.</p>
<p>Other properties can be introduced in the concept of commodity bundle, as a relation of total ordering, and others, but these are different from vector space properties.</p>
<p>Now we can answer your previous question:</p>
<p><strong>“By l dimensions ,( of a commodity space) do we mean l directions? “</strong></p>
<p>We saw that, from a mathematical point of view, the commodity space is a vector space, in particular is <span class="math-container">$R^n$</span>, so we have to relate to the definition of <em>dimension of a vector space.</em>
This definition is a little complicated because implies the concept of <em>base</em> <em>of a vector space</em> (too long to be explained here). In a general vector space, the dimension of the space is defined as the <em>number of vectors that constitutes a base.</em></p>
<p>In <span class="math-container">$R^n$</span> (n-ples of real numbers) one can prove that the dimension is the number of real numbers that forms a vector, that is <span class="math-container">$n$</span>. So, in a commodity space the dimension is the number of goods that constitute  a commodity bundle.</p>
<p>.</p>

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<p>What exactly is the difference between Euclidean space,vector space ,metric space ,commodity space,Cartesian space?</p>

<p>I am reading about consumer choice and I came across this line:</p>

<p>"A commodity vector (or commodity bundle ) is a list of amounts of the different commodities and can be viewed as a point in Rl,the commodity space.
We can use commodity vectors to represent an individual's consumption levels.The lth entry of the commodity vector stands for the amount of commodity l consumed."</p>

<p>When I googled the meaning of commodity space ,it says - commodity space is Euclidean space and here,as we have taken l entries ,it is l-dimensional Euclidean space.</p>

<p>By l dimensions ,do we mean l directions? </p>

<p>Because when we consider only two commodities in a simple Cartesian plane,we can show them as perpendicular distance from two axis (moving in two perpendicular directions).</p>

<p>Is an l dimensional Cartesian plane similar to l dimensional Euclidean plane?</p>

<p>Since we are taking consumption bundles as commodity vectors,commodity space should be same as vector space.</p>

<p>We are now left with metric space ,the Google search engine defines it as " a set for which distances between all members of the set are defined"</p>

<p>We read about various consumption sets defined as a subset of the commodity space Rl.These consumption sets can be open as well as closed..</p>

<p>This shows that all the spaces listed above are interconnected..or similar to each other.</p>

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# Euclidean spaces,vector spaces,metric spaces,commodity spaces,Cartesian spaces

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-05-13)

What exactly is the difference between Euclidean space,vector space ,metric space ,commodity space,Cartesian space?

I am reading about consumer choice and I came across this line:

"A commodity vector (or commodity bundle ) is a list of amounts of the different commodities and can be viewed as a point in Rl,the commodity space.
We can use commodity vectors to represent an individual's consumption levels.The lth entry of the commodity vector stands for the amount of commodity l consumed."

When I googled the meaning of commodity space ,it says - commodity space is Euclidean space and here,as we have taken l entries ,it is l-dimensional Euclidean space.

By l dimensions ,do we mean l directions?

Because when we consider only two commodities in a simple Cartesian plane,we can show them as perpendicular distance from two axis (moving in two perpendicular directions).

Is an l dimensional Cartesian plane similar to l dimensional Euclidean plane?

Since we are taking consumption bundles as commodity vectors,commodity space should be same as vector space.

We are now left with metric space ,the Google search engine defines it as " a set for which distances between all members of the set are defined"

We read about various consumption sets defined as a subset of the commodity space Rl.These consumption sets can be open as well as closed..

This shows that all the spaces listed above are interconnected..or similar to each other.

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-05-13. Score: 6

I will try to do this at an intuitive level without being technical. If you want rigorous definitions of any of this I can edit my post.

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We need a way to mathematically model the consumption choices that an agent faces. To accomplish this, we use $\mathbb{R}^L\_+$ to denote the agent's level of consumption of each of 1,2,..,L goods.

Vectors tie into this because we want to think about how much of each good an agent chooses when optimizing over her preferences. So we don't just think about how much of good $i$ the agent wants. We want to think about how much of good 1 the agent wants, good $2$ he wants, etc. simultaneously. So, there are tons of different "mixes" of these goods that an agent can afford (that belong to this agent's budget set given some prices and wealth) and one of those "mixes" (vectors) represents how much of each of the L goods an agent chooses to consume when maximizing his or her representative utility.

Now - Cartesian space. You should actually discuss the Cartesian coordinate system on Euclidean space. We use Cartesian coordinates to denote a point in Euclidean space. We could, for example, instead use polar coordinates to denote points in Euclidean space.

A metric space is a bit more complicated but you can think of it (this is very simplified) as a space where the distance between any two points is well defined. The distances themselves are called a metric. Having a metric space allows us to use topological methods (for example, the concept of open balls when discussing the local non-satiation of preferences). The most common example of a metric space is three-dimensional Euclidean space.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Are there any computer graphics available which can help us visualise all these spaces because that can help us understand the concept better.Visualising N commodity vectors having n entries in an N -dimensional Euclidean space is pretty difficult.Computer graphics on this topic must be used by firms.Herein comes the role of graphic designers.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2022-06-07. Score: 4

Of all the types of structures or spaces you mention, vector space $\mathcal{V}$ is the simplest type of structure. Other structures are constructed from this:

1. A real vector space with an [*inner product*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_product_space) (which allows to define the ortogonality relation) is a [Hilbert space](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space) $\mathcal{H}$.
2. An Euclidean space is an [affine space](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affine_space) $\mathcal{A}$, a set of points, such that for every pair of points $P$ and $Q$ there is a a vector $\overrightarrow{PQ}$ of a finite dimensional Hilber space. In an Euclidean space you can define, distances, angles, points, etc. so you have a geometrical space.
3. A set of points with a distance is a metric space, Euclidean space is a metric space, but not every metric space is an Euclidean space.
4. A [commodity space](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debreu_theorems) is a set of points, where you can define a total order relation, which is continuous and has additional properties (some convex sets of the Euclidean spaces can become a commodity space, if you define some additional structure on them).
5. A Cartesian space, is just a set that can be expressed as [Cartesian product](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_product) of sets. Again, mutidimensional Euclidean space and many commodity spaces are particular instances of Cartesian spaces.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2022-07-11. Score: 1

You have to distinguish between mathematical concepts and economic concepts.

Vector space, euclidean space, metric space, are mathematical concepts.
Commodity space is an economic concept.

The most basic spaces are **vector spaces** and **metric spaces**.

A *vector space* on $R$ is defined as a set $V$ (of elements of any nature) such that there are two operations called *scalar multiplication* and *addition*, that satisfy a list of certain properties (too long to be described here).

Vector space is the fundamental concept of *linear algebra*.
The most well-known example of vector space is $R^n$.

A *metric space* is defined as a set (of elements of any nature) on which is defined a function that is called *distance* or *metric*, that satisfies specific axioms (too long to be described here, but you can easily find them on internet).

It is a generalization of the everyday concept of distance.

Vector spaces and metric spaces are two **independent concepts**: a vector space, on its own, is not a metric space and a metric space, on its own, is not a vector space.

In order to make a vector space a metric space, you have to define on it a distance.

This is the case of an euclidean space, that is a vector space ($R^n$) on which is defined an *inner (or scalar) product*. It is possible to prove that an inner product induces a distance, so that an Euclidean space is a metric vector space.

An example of metric space that is not a vector space is the so-called *discrete space*, which is a set (of elements of any nature) on which is introduced a distance called the *discrete distance*.

The **commodity space**, instead, is an economic concept, that from a mathematical point of view can be seen as a vector space, in particular $R^n$ if the number of commodities is $n$.

You wrote:

"A commodity vector (or commodity bundle ) is a list of amounts of the different commodities and can be viewed as a point in Rl,the commodity space. We can use commodity vectors to represent an individual's consumption levels.The lth entry of the commodity vector stands for the amount of commodity l consumed”.

That is, the vectors in $R^n$ are **interpreted** as bundles of goods, but this is an economic interpretation, and not a mathematical concept.

Other properties can be introduced in the concept of commodity bundle, as a relation of total ordering, and others, but these are different from vector space properties.

Now we can answer your previous question:

**“By l dimensions ,( of a commodity space) do we mean l directions? “**

We saw that, from a mathematical point of view, the commodity space is a vector space, in particular is $R^n$, so we have to relate to the definition of *dimension of a vector space.*
This definition is a little complicated because implies the concept of *base* *of a vector space* (too long to be explained here). In a general vector space, the dimension of the space is defined as the *number of vectors that constitutes a base.*

In $R^n$ (n-ples of real numbers) one can prove that the dimension is the number of real numbers that forms a vector, that is $n$. So, in a commodity space the dimension is the number of goods that constitute a commodity bundle.

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