<p>There are a lot of game theorists quite open to many versions of behavioral economics. That being said, I think there are some reasons why these are still fairly separate areas. I will focus in particular on the issue of rationality.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Parts of behavioral economics simply do standard economics with somewhat different preferences, such as other-regarding preferences. Standard game theory makes no assumption what preferences are, any payoff-function is admissible. There are subtle areas where this is not the case. For example, preferences may include what others think about an agent. There is a flavor of game theory, psychological game theory, that studies exactly preferences like that.</p>
</li>
<li><p>There is evolutionary game theory, an import from theoretical biology. Here one studies agents that have essentially zero rationality and follow simple learning rules. The corresponding models in biology are often models where learning happens via the selection of genes. One important finding is that when the simple learning rules converge, they usually converge to a Nash equilibrium and sometimes even one that survives various refinements. From this perspective, many models in game theory do not rely much on rationality to begin with and there is no need to weaken rationality assumptions.</p>
</li>
<li><p>On the polar opposite is the field of epistemic game theory. Here one takes rationality very seriously and studies implicit assumptions on the form of rationality and beliefs. An important consequence here is that rational individuals need no play according to some Nash equilibrium and even individuals that are rational, believe each other to be rational, believe each other to believe each other to be rational and whatnot. From this perspective, players not playing according to some equilibrium notion for the assumed preferences is often not evidence that players are irrational. They may have rational beliefs that are simply not consistent with each other. Also, there are many ways to weaken implicit assumptions by, for example, assuming that everyone is rational but need not expect others to be rational. From this perspective, a lot more observed behavior makes sense.</p>
</li>
</ol>

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<p>Disclaimer: My academic coming of age was in an environment where behavioral economics played only a minor role. My research is theoretical, both &quot;behavioral and non-behavioral&quot;, economics.</p>
<p>I believe it is incorrect to say that game theorists (or economists) in general are not convinced by behavioral economics. You can easily see it is considered to be quite relevant by finding Thaler, Shiller, Kahneman and Selten (yes!) in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Memorial_Prize_laureates_in_Economics" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this list</a>. I also do not feel like young economists stay away from behavioral economics.</p>
<p>That being said, there are some (not necessarily good) reasons why many economists have a certain dislike for behavioral elements. One is that students often criticize standard models, taking a &quot;behavioral approach&quot; that in the end simply breaks down to &quot;why should I study Bayesian Nash equilibrium if people are not clever enough to make such calculations anyway&quot; -- this is a fair point, but if you want to have game-theoretic analysis or predictions you should base these on some closed system. I don't find &quot;people are stupid and hence anything can happen&quot; particularly illuminating. Luckily, this is not what modern behavioral economics does although some critics of &quot;standard economics&quot; seem to think this. Adding behavioral aspects often makes a model more complicated to analyze, which the same kind of critics then complain about again.</p>
<p>Behavioral economics often simply incorporates systematic &quot;errors&quot; (?) such as time inconsistency, loss aversion, social preferences, overconfidence, probability weighting and so on. This is reasonable because there is almost undeniable evidence of such biases.</p>
<p>An issue that I sometimes have with such models is that they don't deliver surprising insights. For instance, if you assume that a decision maker is overconfident and then find that this decision maker has a preference for riskier prospects than a &quot;rational&quot; decision maker without this bias, I am not very moved. The result just reflects the assumption. When I see the magician putting the rabbit in the hat, I don't clap when he pulls it out. I am not saying that every publishable result needs to be surprising, but it needs to add to our current knowledge. Serious economists know the limits of their models and are aware that changing the beliefs in some direction alters behavior.</p>
<p>By far not every behavioral paper is like that: many, in fact, expand our current knowledge and our theoretical toolbox tremendously. However, we then have many little toy models that are applicable in only some environments and not so much in others. In contrast, the rational benchmark is always applicable and usually comes with a normative touch: this is how utility maximizing agents are supposed to behave. Maybe it is just me, but I sometimes feel that this is also a point that many critics of &quot;standard assumptions&quot; actually mean: people should be more social and less egoistic and firms must not only maximize profits. That is, this normative aspect gets mixed with the analysis. However, you cannot blame behavioral economics for people having wrong perceptions about it.</p>
<p>Moreover, you usually cannot exploit homo oeconomicus. In contrast, the behavioral agents have systematic flaws by design and therefore they will be exploited. Behavioral agents often introduce a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_book" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Dutch book</a>. As a result, behavioral assumptions often only make sense in decision theory (i.e., individual decisions without interaction), but not so much in game theory (i.e, strategic interaction) because no equilibrium exists when a money pump is present. I guess what I am trying to say is that while some behavioral biases are reasonable and hard to deny, they -- if all their logical consequences are taken into account -- can still produce unreasonable predictions.A nice paper making such a point is the AER paper &quot;Until the Bitter End&quot; by Ebert &amp; Strack discussed <a href="https://afinetheorem.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/until-the-bitter-end-on-prospect-theory-in-a-dynamic-context-s-ebert-p-strack-2012/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>.</p>

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+1, although I am not game theorist I am studying behavioral economics for some of my macro research where I try to incorporate it and I would add to the description above that from what I have seen behavioral economics most often boils down to traditional game theory/rational decision making + some behavioral twist since there is no general theory of irrationality. Often then non-practitioners blow this out of proportion by ridiculing the rationality even when we know that people cannot behave in completely idiosyncratic manner and so they are rational with some caveats
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Bayesian
<p>Though behavioural economics has been popularized over the past decade in both industry and pop culture, it seems that not much has changed with regard to the standard economic definition of  rationality. </p>

<p>This is because for the most part (in my view and experience with my professors) it seems to have been irrelevant or unconvincing for the game theorists who deal with very similar theory to the behavioural economists. This is where a "super-micro" theory of consumer and prodoucer behaviour is generated and analysis takes place.</p>

<p>Now im not a huge fan of behavioural economics, but points like discontinous time preferences and prospect theory are useful for adding a degree of realism to models. </p>

<p>This all being said, (except for a few articles on behavioural game theory) why has a large chunk of young game theorists decided to stay away from "behavioural" elements? </p>

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This is interesting because a large chunk of behavioural economics basically states that some rational expectations assumptions are violated in many cases, so there is incentive to avoid these behavioural elements. I would imagine the effect on the “standard economic definition of rationality” will be updated in certain areas as the postulations from behavioural econ are rigorously defined. Hard to include a lot of the implications in standard models. Plus, its not to say that the current models are _wrong_, more so to say that they can be made better. Definitely following this question!
Brennan
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Perhaps this [commentary on Thaler's Nobel Prize](https://afinetheorem.wordpress.com/2017/10/09/the-2017-nobel-richard-thaler/) will give you an angle.
Herr K.
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What do game theorists think of behavioural economics?
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# What do game theorists think of behavioural economics?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-25)

Though behavioural economics has been popularized over the past decade in both industry and pop culture, it seems that not much has changed with regard to the standard economic definition of rationality.

This is because for the most part (in my view and experience with my professors) it seems to have been irrelevant or unconvincing for the game theorists who deal with very similar theory to the behavioural economists. This is where a "super-micro" theory of consumer and prodoucer behaviour is generated and analysis takes place.

Now im not a huge fan of behavioural economics, but points like discontinous time preferences and prospect theory are useful for adding a degree of realism to models.

This all being said, (except for a few articles on behavioural game theory) why has a large chunk of young game theorists decided to stay away from "behavioural" elements?

**Tags:** microeconomics, game-theory, behavioral-economics, soft-question

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: This is interesting because a large chunk of behavioural economics basically states that some rational expectations assumptions are violated in many cases, so there is incentive to avoid these behavioural elements. I would imagine the effect on the “standard economic definition of rationality” will be updated in certain areas as the postulations from behavioural econ are rigorously defined. Hard to include a lot of the implications in standard models. Plus, its not to say that the current models are _wrong_, more so to say that they can be made better. Definitely following this question!  
> **username_2**: Perhaps this [commentary on Thaler's Nobel Prize](https://afinetheorem.wordpress.com/2017/10/09/the-2017-nobel-richard-thaler/) will give you an angle.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2020-11-15. Score: 6

There are a lot of game theorists quite open to many versions of behavioral economics. That being said, I think there are some reasons why these are still fairly separate areas. I will focus in particular on the issue of rationality.

1. Parts of behavioral economics simply do standard economics with somewhat different preferences, such as other-regarding preferences. Standard game theory makes no assumption what preferences are, any payoff-function is admissible. There are subtle areas where this is not the case. For example, preferences may include what others think about an agent. There is a flavor of game theory, psychological game theory, that studies exactly preferences like that.
2. There is evolutionary game theory, an import from theoretical biology. Here one studies agents that have essentially zero rationality and follow simple learning rules. The corresponding models in biology are often models where learning happens via the selection of genes. One important finding is that when the simple learning rules converge, they usually converge to a Nash equilibrium and sometimes even one that survives various refinements. From this perspective, many models in game theory do not rely much on rationality to begin with and there is no need to weaken rationality assumptions.
3. On the polar opposite is the field of epistemic game theory. Here one takes rationality very seriously and studies implicit assumptions on the form of rationality and beliefs. An important consequence here is that rational individuals need no play according to some Nash equilibrium and even individuals that are rational, believe each other to be rational, believe each other to believe each other to be rational and whatnot. From this perspective, players not playing according to some equilibrium notion for the assumed preferences is often not evidence that players are irrational. They may have rational beliefs that are simply not consistent with each other. Also, there are many ways to weaken implicit assumptions by, for example, assuming that everyone is rational but need not expect others to be rational. From this perspective, a lot more observed behavior makes sense.


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### Answer by username_4 on 2020-11-15. Score: 6

Disclaimer: My academic coming of age was in an environment where behavioral economics played only a minor role. My research is theoretical, both "behavioral and non-behavioral", economics.

I believe it is incorrect to say that game theorists (or economists) in general are not convinced by behavioral economics. You can easily see it is considered to be quite relevant by finding Thaler, Shiller, Kahneman and Selten (yes!) in [this list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Memorial_Prize_laureates_in_Economics). I also do not feel like young economists stay away from behavioral economics.

That being said, there are some (not necessarily good) reasons why many economists have a certain dislike for behavioral elements. One is that students often criticize standard models, taking a "behavioral approach" that in the end simply breaks down to "why should I study username_4 Nash equilibrium if people are not clever enough to make such calculations anyway" -- this is a fair point, but if you want to have game-theoretic analysis or predictions you should base these on some closed system. I don't find "people are stupid and hence anything can happen" particularly illuminating. Luckily, this is not what modern behavioral economics does although some critics of "standard economics" seem to think this. Adding behavioral aspects often makes a model more complicated to analyze, which the same kind of critics then complain about again.

Behavioral economics often simply incorporates systematic "errors" (?) such as time inconsistency, loss aversion, social preferences, overconfidence, probability weighting and so on. This is reasonable because there is almost undeniable evidence of such biases.

An issue that I sometimes have with such models is that they don't deliver surprising insights. For instance, if you assume that a decision maker is overconfident and then find that this decision maker has a preference for riskier prospects than a "rational" decision maker without this bias, I am not very moved. The result just reflects the assumption. When I see the magician putting the rabbit in the hat, I don't clap when he pulls it out. I am not saying that every publishable result needs to be surprising, but it needs to add to our current knowledge. Serious economists know the limits of their models and are aware that changing the beliefs in some direction alters behavior.

By far not every behavioral paper is like that: many, in fact, expand our current knowledge and our theoretical toolbox tremendously. However, we then have many little toy models that are applicable in only some environments and not so much in others. In contrast, the rational benchmark is always applicable and usually comes with a normative touch: this is how utility maximizing agents are supposed to behave. Maybe it is just me, but I sometimes feel that this is also a point that many critics of "standard assumptions" actually mean: people should be more social and less egoistic and firms must not only maximize profits. That is, this normative aspect gets mixed with the analysis. However, you cannot blame behavioral economics for people having wrong perceptions about it.

Moreover, you usually cannot exploit homo oeconomicus. In contrast, the behavioral agents have systematic flaws by design and therefore they will be exploited. Behavioral agents often introduce a [Dutch book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_book). As a result, behavioral assumptions often only make sense in decision theory (i.e., individual decisions without interaction), but not so much in game theory (i.e, strategic interaction) because no equilibrium exists when a money pump is present. I guess what I am trying to say is that while some behavioral biases are reasonable and hard to deny, they -- if all their logical consequences are taken into account -- can still produce unreasonable predictions.A nice paper making such a point is the AER paper "Until the Bitter End" by Ebert & Strack discussed [here](https://afinetheorem.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/until-the-bitter-end-on-prospect-theory-in-a-dynamic-context-s-ebert-p-strack-2012/).

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: +1, although I am not game theorist I am studying behavioral economics for some of my macro research where I try to incorporate it and I would add to the description above that from what I have seen behavioral economics most often boils down to traditional game theory/rational decision making + some behavioral twist since there is no general theory of irrationality. Often then non-practitioners blow this out of proportion by ridiculing the rationality even when we know that people cannot behave in completely idiosyncratic manner and so they are rational with some caveats  

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