Body: <p>Looking at the new message template admin interface provided by the Message Administration extension, I can't work out how to see at a glance whether a given template is the default, or whether it's been customised. This is a really useful feature of the original admin interface. I hope it's not being discarded. Or maybe it is there and I'm just missing it?</p>
  
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Comments.CreationDate: 2024-03-24T01:47:12.517Z
Comments.Text: It's a missing feature. https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/-/issues/4452. Consider also https://civicrm.org/extensions/better-message-templates
Comments.UserDisplayName: Demerit
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Comments.CreationDate: 2024-03-24T21:20:03.410Z
Comments.Text: is there some trick that all the default ones are odd numbered IDs and custom ones are even? or does this not apply in the SK/FB universe
Comments.UserDisplayName: petednz - fuzion
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Comments.Text: @petednz You know how in the regular interface there will be a "revert to default" if you've customized it? There is nothing like that in the message admin extension. The ids of the "reserved" vs the "in-use" don't tell you anything about whether you've edited the in-use one from when it was last in sync with the reserved one since the ids don't change and there will be two for each template regardless.
Comments.UserDisplayName: Demerit
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Comments.CreationDate: 2024-03-25T20:15:40.370Z
Comments.Text: good point. but in the database log_civicrm_msg_template it would show if the even IDs were more recently updated than the odd IDs - perhaps helps if Graham is stuck without the 'old' feature till it gets added?
Comments.UserDisplayName: petednz - fuzion
Tags: <message-templates>
Title: Using the new Message Template admin screen, how can I see whether a given template is the default or has been customised?
ThreadText: # Using the new Message Template admin screen, how can I see whether a given template is the default or has been customised?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2024-03-23)
  
  Looking at the new message template admin interface provided by the Message Administration extension, I can't work out how to see at a glance whether a given template is the default, or whether it's been customised. This is a really useful feature of the original admin interface. I hope it's not being discarded. Or maybe it is there and I'm just missing it?
  
  **Tags:** message-templates
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: It's a missing feature. https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/-/issues/4452. Consider also https://civicrm.org/extensions/better-message-templates  
  > **username_2**: is there some trick that all the default ones are odd numbered IDs and custom ones are even? or does this not apply in the SK/FB universe  
  > **username_1**: @username_2 You know how in the regular interface there will be a "revert to default" if you've customized it? There is nothing like that in the message admin extension. The ids of the "reserved" vs the "in-use" don't tell you anything about whether you've edited the in-use one from when it was last in sync with the reserved one since the ids don't change and there will be two for each template regardless.  
  > **username_2**: good point. but in the database log_civicrm_msg_template it would show if the even IDs were more recently updated than the odd IDs - perhaps helps if username_0 is stuck without the 'old' feature till it gets added?  
  
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