<p>A lightning network wallet <em>can</em> be compatible with a Ledger Nano generated wallet, but doesn't <em>have</em> to be.</p>

<p>Ledger nano generates seeds (the 24 words) using <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2srxr2/what_is_the_difference_between_bip_32_and_bip_44/cnspxwq/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">BIP 32/BIP 39/BIP 44</a>. </p>

<p>I checked to see what format eclair uses, and it seems to use <a href="https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair/blob/master/eclair-core/src/main/scala/fr/acinq/eclair/blockchain/electrum/ElectrumWallet.scala#L386" rel="nofollow noreferrer">BIP 49 instead of BIP 44</a>. This seems to suggest that the seeds are incompatible, but I haven't confirmed this.</p>

<p>If you want to do so, you can try importing your Ledger seeds into eclair, which is a non-descructive action (i.e. it won't affect your wallet/funds). </p>

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They should be compatible, BIP49 is the segwit extension of BIP44 (which is necessary for ln). The ledger seed should work fine
Raghav Sood
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<p>It depends on the wallet. Currently, most lightning wallets use different methods for backing up and restoring your funds, as it's a little bit more complex than a regular bitcoin wallet.</p>
<p>But Phoenix for example does support BIP39 seeds so far.</p>
<p>It is also important to note that you should never use your seed from a hardware wallet in a software wallet. Moreover when it comes to lightning wallets you will still need channel backups to make sure you can restore your funds properly.</p>

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<p>If I generated 24 words from a Ledger Nano, can I import these to a lightning network wallet e.g. Eclair?</p>

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Can you use the same seed for normal BTC and Lightning wallets?
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# Can you use the same seed for normal BTC and Lightning wallets?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-05-09)

If I generated 24 words from a Ledger Nano, can I import these to a lightning network wallet e.g. Eclair?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2018-05-09. Score: 0

A lightning network wallet *can* be compatible with a Ledger Nano generated wallet, but doesn't *have* to be.

Ledger nano generates seeds (the 24 words) using [BIP 32/BIP 39/BIP 44](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2srxr2/what_is_the_difference_between_bip_32_and_bip_44/cnspxwq/).

I checked to see what format eclair uses, and it seems to use [BIP 49 instead of BIP 44](https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair/blob/master/eclair-core/src/main/scala/fr/acinq/eclair/blockchain/electrum/ElectrumWallet.scala#L386). This seems to suggest that the seeds are incompatible, but I haven't confirmed this.

If you want to do so, you can try importing your Ledger seeds into eclair, which is a non-descructive action (i.e. it won't affect your wallet/funds).

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: They should be compatible, BIP49 is the segwit extension of BIP44 (which is necessary for ln). The ledger seed should work fine  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2022-11-29. Score: 0

It depends on the wallet. Currently, most lightning wallets use different methods for backing up and restoring your funds, as it's a little bit more complex than a regular bitcoin wallet.

But Phoenix for example does support BIP39 seeds so far.

It is also important to note that you should never use your seed from a hardware wallet in a software wallet. Moreover when it comes to lightning wallets you will still need channel backups to make sure you can restore your funds properly.


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