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  <p>What can I do?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>You could find tools that automate the trying of various combinations of seed-words. Some are mentioned in similar questions here. For example btctools, btcrecover. Use them or adapt them to your needs.</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/78987/13866">Lost my Bitcoin wallet and have only 11 out of 12 mnemonic seed phrase words. How can I get my Bitcoins?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/77209/13866">Need help to recover blpckchain.info wallet, my wife forgot her password and the brute force with btcrecover is not catching the password</a></li>
</ul>

<p>I would</p>

<ul>
<li>Not involve other people in this. </li>
<li>Not use software I can't build from source code I read and understand. </li>
<li>Not use the software on a computer that is connected to any network. </li>
</ul>

<p>If I had no success after a solid year of trying every day, I'd consider handing the problem over to a third party I had very thoroughly vetted.</p>

<p>Obviously if the wallet contains $3.65 or some other trivial amount - just forget about it, the time is not worth spending on this. </p>

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2019-10-17T10:19:37.113Z
I looked at that but am not finding where to generate the different combinations
Ryan Dentamaro
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2019-10-17T10:23:33.477Z
@Ryan. I don't think it will be easy. It may take some hard work on your part over a period of days, weeks or longer. Only you know whether the amount of money at stake justifies you investing more than 5 minutes of your time in looking at the tools and how to use them.
RedGrittyBrick
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2019-10-18T03:07:58.500Z
Let me ask you this. Is there a way to know which of my first two words is first? I seen For example, Satoshi Dice would always start with dice
Ryan Dentamaro
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2019-10-18T10:40:21.990Z
@Ryan: not as far as I know. I believe any of the words in the dictionary can appear in any of the positions in the phrase.
RedGrittyBrick
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2019-10-17T10:27:21.683Z
RedGrittyBrick
<p>I had money sent to my wallet and couldn’t remember my encrypt password.  I had my 12 word recovery phrase written down but it’s abbreviated. I deleted my wallet which I shouldn’t have done because I’m sure I would have figured out the encrypt password by now and I’m going crazy with this recovery phrase. The way I store is 6 rows 2 words per row. 1st problem is I don’t know the order, it could go: left right left right... left right right left.... right left right...right left left right.  6 of the words I’m 100%.  4 words have 3 possible options. 1 has 2 options and the last could be a number of things.  I have the address that I had the money sent to (probably doesn’t help).  I know the name of the wallet (sure that doesn’t mean shit)     At this point I’m sure if I just knew the first and last word(the order) I’d figure it out.  I’d pay someone if I wasn’t certain they would take it plus how would they figure it out.  I’ve seen people that charge 10% but why wouldn’t they take it all? What can I do?   Is there a way to know which of my first two words are first</p>

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Help recovering BitPay wallet Reward!
Ryan Dentamaro
# Help recovering BitPay wallet Reward!

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-10-17)

I had money sent to my wallet and couldn’t remember my encrypt password. I had my 12 word recovery phrase written down but it’s abbreviated. I deleted my wallet which I shouldn’t have done because I’m sure I would have figured out the encrypt password by now and I’m going crazy with this recovery phrase. The way I store is 6 rows 2 words per row. 1st problem is I don’t know the order, it could go: left right left right... left right right left.... right left right...right left left right. 6 of the words I’m 100%. 4 words have 3 possible options. 1 has 2 options and the last could be a number of things. I have the address that I had the money sent to (probably doesn’t help). I know the name of the wallet (sure that doesn’t mean shit) At this point I’m sure if I just knew the first and last word(the order) I’d figure it out. I’d pay someone if I wasn’t certain they would take it plus how would they figure it out. I’ve seen people that charge 10% but why wouldn’t they take it all? What can I do? Is there a way to know which of my first two words are first

**Tags:** wallet-recovery, passphrase, bitpay


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-10-17. Score: 4

> What can I do?

You could find tools that automate the trying of various combinations of seed-words. Some are mentioned in similar questions here. For example btctools, btcrecover. Use them or adapt them to your needs.

* [Lost my Bitcoin wallet and have only 11 out of 12 mnemonic seed phrase words. How can I get my Bitcoins?](https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/78987/13866)
* [Need help to recover blpckchain.info wallet, my wife forgot her password and the brute force with btcrecover is not catching the password](https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/q/77209/13866)

I would

* Not involve other people in this.
* Not use software I can't build from source code I read and understand.
* Not use the software on a computer that is connected to any network.

If I had no success after a solid year of trying every day, I'd consider handing the problem over to a third party I had very thoroughly vetted.

Obviously if the wallet contains $3.65 or some other trivial amount - just forget about it, the time is not worth spending on this.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I looked at that but am not finding where to generate the different combinations  
> **username_1**: @Ryan. I don't think it will be easy. It may take some hard work on your part over a period of days, weeks or longer. Only you know whether the amount of money at stake justifies you investing more than 5 minutes of your time in looking at the tools and how to use them.  
> **username_0**: Let me ask you this. Is there a way to know which of my first two words is first? I seen For example, Satoshi Dice would always start with dice  
> **username_1**: @Ryan: not as far as I know. I believe any of the words in the dictionary can appear in any of the positions in the phrase.  

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