<p>For clightning I have created a video that explains how to restore your node with seed and state you can watch it here: <a href="https://youtu.be/-S7pQOw36vI" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://youtu.be/-S7pQOw36vI</a></p>

<p>The general idea is that hsm_secret sites your seed in binary and the sqlite3 datebase sites your channel states. </p>

<p>I believe in lnd the process would be similar only that they give you the seed words explicitly instead of hsm_secret. They should also have some database or file in which they site channel state. </p>

<p>As for watchtowers. Currently to the best of my knowledge there are no such services available. </p>

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2019-03-24T21:47:29.103Z
thx.  @rene-pickhardt - and what about other wallets? what with eclair, how backup their seed?

and  if watchtowers do not exist, why this guy "stefanwouldgo" in this thread referenced to watchtowers? https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85475/lightning-question-about-force-closures-of-channels-and-its-impact-on-recoveri
johnsmiththelird
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2019-03-24T21:54:47.130Z
Can't say for eclair but would assume similar to lnd. Stefanwouldgo probably mentioned watchtowers as the entire protocol is build with watching services in mind. So I guess most people expects them to come eventually
Rene Pickhardt
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2019-03-26T08:52:36.910Z
Please read my comments in the other thread!
stefanwouldgo
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<p>this is followup on question #85475: </p>

<p>I have learned in previous question that there is an automatic refund mechanism in case of force closure of a channel, except for some very rare circumstances. I would like to ask about two of those circumstances:
,</p>

<p>1-how to "back up your channel state" or how to back up your seed in lightning? 
(is "channel state" here a synonym for "seed"?)</p>

<p>And why do people say the "seed" works differently in lightning compared to btc - differently how?
,</p>

<p>2-how can you "give your channel to a <strong>watchtower</strong>" ?  IN practical terms, if you use a current lightning wallet</p>

<p>thanks</p>

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How to backup seed in lightning and give your channel to watchtower
johnsmiththelird
# How to backup seed in lightning and give your channel to watchtower

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-03-24)

this is followup on question #85475:

I have learned in previous question that there is an automatic refund mechanism in case of force closure of a channel, except for some very rare circumstances. I would like to ask about two of those circumstances:
,

1-how to "back up your channel state" or how to back up your seed in lightning?
(is "channel state" here a synonym for "seed"?)

And why do people say the "seed" works differently in lightning compared to btc - differently how?
,

2-how can you "give your channel to a **watchtower**" ? IN practical terms, if you use a current lightning wallet

thanks

**Tags:** lightning-network, seed, mnemonic-seed, lightning-routing


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-03-24. Score: 1

For clightning I have created a video that explains how to restore your node with seed and state you can watch it here: <https://youtu.be/-S7pQOw36vI>

The general idea is that hsm\_secret sites your seed in binary and the sqlite3 datebase sites your channel states.

I believe in lnd the process would be similar only that they give you the seed words explicitly instead of hsm\_secret. They should also have some database or file in which they site channel state.

As for watchtowers. Currently to the best of my knowledge there are no such services available.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: thx.  @rene-pickhardt - and what about other wallets? what with eclair, how backup their seed?  and  if watchtowers do not exist, why this guy "username_2" in this thread referenced to watchtowers? https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85475/lightning-question-about-force-closures-of-channels-and-its-impact-on-recoveri  
> **username_1**: Can't say for eclair but would assume similar to lnd. Stefanwouldgo probably mentioned watchtowers as the entire protocol is build with watching services in mind. So I guess most people expects them to come eventually  
> **username_2**: Please read my comments in the other thread!  

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