<p>This is copied from  the Electrum website today:</p>

<h1>Recommendation on how to redeem Bitcoin Cash</h1>

<p>July 31st, 2017.</p>

<p>Electrum is a Bitcoin wallet created by Thomas Voegtlin in 2011.
Electrum is distributed by Electrum Technologies GmbH, a company
registered in Germany, using the website <a href="https://electrum.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://electrum.org</a></p>

<p>Electrum users who are not interested in Bitcoin Cash do not need to
worry nor to take any particular action. The following note is only
for users who want to access their Bitcoin Cash (BCC).</p>

<p>"Electron Cash" is a fork of Electrum for Bitcoin Cash. Electron Cash
is not endorsed by Electrum. It is open source, and binaries
(executables files) are available for Windows, OSX and
Android. However, when you run binaries instead of source code, you
have no guarantee that they match the source code. This is why wallet
binaries are usually signed by developers. A digital signature engages
the responsability of the person who signs.</p>

<p>The person who distributes the Electron Cash binaries has decided to
remain anonymous, and uses the fake name "Jonald Fyookball" in order
to sign Electron Cash binaries. Thus, if these binaries contain code
that is designed to steal your bitcoins, the author of the theft will
be anonymous and walk away safely with your funds.</p>

<p>This danger is exacerbated by the fact that the default behaviour of
Electron Cash is to silently copy all your Electrum wallets into its
own directory. Thus, if you run Electron Cash on a machine where you
previously used Electrum, all your pre-existing wallets will be
available in Electron Cash, and you will only need to enter your
password in order to expose your bitcoins to potential theft.</p>

<p>Therefore, users who want to run the Electron Cash binaries should do
it on a separate machine, that does not have their Bitcoin wallet. We
recommend to proceed as follows:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Install Electron Cash on a machine that does not have your
Electrum wallets.</p></li>
<li><p>Wait until the BCC hard fork has taken place, and a few BCC blocks
have been mined.</p></li>
<li><p>Move all your Electrum funds to a new Electrum wallet. This will
move only your BTC, and not your BCC, because the BCC blockchain has
replay protection. Wait until the transaction is confirmed.</p></li>
<li><p>Enter the seed of your (now empty) old wallet or private keys in
Electron Cash. Since the BTC have been moved to a new wallet,
entering your old seed in Electron Cash will not put your BTC funds
at risk.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Following these 4 easy steps you will be able to access your BCC
without compromising your BTC.</p>

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2017-08-20T21:34:43.373Z
I would add "move your BCC to cold storage then wipe and restore the machine you used to run Electron Cash since you consider it possibly infected.
Bart Jones
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2017-08-20T21:14:42.900Z
2017-08-20T21:14:42.900Z
Bart Jones
<p>Easiest way is to import the same seed into <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash" rel="nofollow noreferrer">BCH's Electron Cash wallet</a> (an open-source fork of <a href="https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum" rel="nofollow noreferrer">BTC's Electrum wallet</a>) and then move BCH to a new wallet. You can first move the BTC to a new paper wallet, and then repeat the process for BCH.</p>
<p>Since 2017, Electron Cash has evolved into the most advanced open-source wallet for BCH: it supports importing all popular seeds and derivation paths, coin control, multisig, cold storage (offline signing), <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash?tab=readme-ov-file#hardware-wallet---ledger-nano-s" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Ledger hardware wallet(s)</a>, <a href="https://github.com/cashshuffle/spec/blob/master/CASHFUSION.md" rel="nofollow noreferrer">CashFusion privacy</a>, BCH's L1 native tokens (<a href="https://cashtokens.org/docs/spec/chip" rel="nofollow noreferrer">&quot;CashTokens&quot;</a>), <a href="https://satochip.io/setup-use-satochip-with-electron-bitcoin-cash/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Satochip hardware key</a>, and plugins like <a href="https://flipstarter.cash/en/how-to-pledge" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Flipstarter decentralized crowdfunding</a>.</p>
<p>The other answer was written in 2017 and warned against running binaries signed by an unknown pseudonymous developer &quot;Jonald Fyookball&quot;. It was a good word of caution at the time, but now the wallet has accumulated a solid 7-year long track record, and a <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/releases" rel="nofollow noreferrer">realname developer is now signing off releases</a>, so maybe it now deserves a little trust (but still, verify!).</p>
<p>The wallet now has <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/blob/master/contrib/build-wine/README.md" rel="nofollow noreferrer">reproducible builds</a> which mitigate the risk of binaries not matching the (open) source code. Also, it is possible to download builds <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/actions/workflows/build.yml?query=branch%3Amaster%20is%3Asuccess" rel="nofollow noreferrer">automatically performed by Github</a>, without having to trust a particular developer (but then you're trusting Github's build process).</p>
<p>Also, many people have been participating in Electron Cash's wallet development, as evidenced by <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/pulls?q=" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Github pull requests</a>, and many users have been using the wallet without serious issues, as evidenced by <a href="https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/issues?q=is%3Aissue" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Github issues</a>.</p>

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2024-11-27T15:05:00.077Z
2024-11-27T15:05:00.077Z
bca-0353f40e
<p>I have BTC (pre-fork) and now BCH on a paper wallet. What's the best online wallet to transfer them into to ensure I retain both coins and also to be able to transact with them?</p>

<wallet><blockchain-fork><bitcoin-cash><paper-wallet>
Online wallet to redeem pre-fork paper wallet for both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash
Dr.Plastics
# Online wallet to redeem pre-fork paper wallet for both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-04)

I have BTC (pre-fork) and now BCH on a paper wallet. What's the best online wallet to transfer them into to ensure I retain both coins and also to be able to transact with them?

**Tags:** wallet, blockchain-fork, bitcoin-cash, paper-wallet


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2017-08-20. Score: 0

This is copied from the Electrum website today:

# Recommendation on how to redeem Bitcoin Cash

July 31st, 2017.

Electrum is a Bitcoin wallet created by Thomas Voegtlin in 2011.
Electrum is distributed by Electrum Technologies GmbH, a company
registered in Germany, using the website <https://electrum.org>

Electrum users who are not interested in Bitcoin Cash do not need to
worry nor to take any particular action. The following note is only
for users who want to access their Bitcoin Cash (BCC).

"Electron Cash" is a fork of Electrum for Bitcoin Cash. Electron Cash
is not endorsed by Electrum. It is open source, and binaries
(executables files) are available for Windows, OSX and
Android. However, when you run binaries instead of source code, you
have no guarantee that they match the source code. This is why wallet
binaries are usually signed by developers. A digital signature engages
the responsability of the person who signs.

The person who distributes the Electron Cash binaries has decided to
remain anonymous, and uses the fake name "Jonald Fyookball" in order
to sign Electron Cash binaries. Thus, if these binaries contain code
that is designed to steal your bitcoins, the author of the theft will
be anonymous and walk away safely with your funds.

This danger is exacerbated by the fact that the default behaviour of
Electron Cash is to silently copy all your Electrum wallets into its
own directory. Thus, if you run Electron Cash on a machine where you
previously used Electrum, all your pre-existing wallets will be
available in Electron Cash, and you will only need to enter your
password in order to expose your bitcoins to potential theft.

Therefore, users who want to run the Electron Cash binaries should do
it on a separate machine, that does not have their Bitcoin wallet. We
recommend to proceed as follows:

1. Install Electron Cash on a machine that does not have your
   Electrum wallets.
2. Wait until the BCC hard fork has taken place, and a few BCC blocks
   have been mined.
3. Move all your Electrum funds to a new Electrum wallet. This will
   move only your BTC, and not your BCC, because the BCC blockchain has
   replay protection. Wait until the transaction is confirmed.
4. Enter the seed of your (now empty) old wallet or private keys in
   Electron Cash. Since the BTC have been moved to a new wallet,
   entering your old seed in Electron Cash will not put your BTC funds
   at risk.

Following these 4 easy steps you will be able to access your BCC
without compromising your BTC.

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I would add "move your BCC to cold storage then wipe and restore the machine you used to run Electron Cash since you consider it possibly infected.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2024-11-27. Score: 0

Easiest way is to import the same seed into [BCH's Electron Cash wallet](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash) (an open-source fork of [BTC's Electrum wallet](https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum)) and then move BCH to a new wallet. You can first move the BTC to a new paper wallet, and then repeat the process for BCH.

Since 2017, Electron Cash has evolved into the most advanced open-source wallet for BCH: it supports importing all popular seeds and derivation paths, coin control, multisig, cold storage (offline signing), [Ledger hardware wallet(s)](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash?tab=readme-ov-file#hardware-wallet---ledger-nano-s), [CashFusion privacy](https://github.com/cashshuffle/spec/blob/master/CASHFUSION.md), BCH's L1 native tokens (["CashTokens"](https://cashtokens.org/docs/spec/chip)), [Satochip hardware key](https://satochip.io/setup-use-satochip-with-electron-bitcoin-cash/), and plugins like [Flipstarter decentralized crowdfunding](https://flipstarter.cash/en/how-to-pledge).

The other answer was written in 2017 and warned against running binaries signed by an unknown pseudonymous developer "Jonald Fyookball". It was a good word of caution at the time, but now the wallet has accumulated a solid 7-year long track record, and a [realname developer is now signing off releases](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/releases), so maybe it now deserves a little trust (but still, verify!).

The wallet now has [reproducible builds](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/blob/master/contrib/build-wine/README.md) which mitigate the risk of binaries not matching the (open) source code. Also, it is possible to download builds [automatically performed by Github](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/actions/workflows/build.yml?query=branch%3Amaster%20is%3Asuccess), without having to trust a particular developer (but then you're trusting Github's build process).

Also, many people have been participating in Electron Cash's wallet development, as evidenced by [Github pull requests](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/pulls?q=), and many users have been using the wallet without serious issues, as evidenced by [Github issues](https://github.com/Electron-Cash/Electron-Cash/issues?q=is%3Aissue).


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