<p>The fee is going to be separate from the amount. </p>

<p>Using your exmaple:
If you need to send bitpay 0.05 btc, you enter 0.05 for the amount field and 0.02 for the fee field. <strong>Do not send bitpay 0.07 btc</strong></p>

<p>If you specify a fee of 0.02 btc and you only have 0.06 btc combined in all of your addresses, electrum will alert you that you don't have enough. </p>

<p>Please note that the fee is something that you decide you want to include. It is not a fixed value, but there is a minimum if you want to get your transaction included into a block in a reasonable amount of time. Looking at the current block, 402557, transaction fees look like they are around 0.001 btc. The fee can depend on a couple of things like age of coins, size of transaction, and/or how fast you want your transaction included. You may also want to increase the fee since more and more blocks are reaching the size limit and miners will favor a more profitable transaction.</p>

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boris
<p>The transaction fees are just a way to indicate to the miner that this transaction is important and needs to be verified ASAP. The higher the fees the faster it is verified.<br>
In your case, you only need to specify the value to pay and the fees if needed (generally there is a default amount of 0.0001 that is used). These transaction fees are not paid to the other person's wallet, neither is iit given to any payment gateway, it stays with the transaction for the miner to claim but still gets cut from your wallet. The amount of fees you want to add is completely upto you.<br>
Please make sure that if you are using a previous transaction that has a higher amount paid to you (eg. you were paid 1BTC and you need to give 0.5 away), you have a return address for the remaining bitcoins (0.5BTC) to come back to your wallet else it may all go as transaction fees.</p>

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tbolt
<p>I'm using Electrum and want to purchase something with Bitcoins. When I get to the bitpay screen with all the details (And the timer) I input the information into the electrum client, which then generates a Fee for the transaction.</p>

<p>My question is: I need to send an exact amount, will the fee take the amount straight out of the amount being sent (And therefore send too low an amount) or do I need to add the fee to the amount being sent?</p>

<p>i.e Let's say the site requests exactly 0.05 bitcoins, fee is 0.02. Do I send 0.07 and let it take the fee, or do I send 0.05 and it takes the fee out of the wallet another way?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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Should I include the fee in the sent bitcoin amount?
Barxjarx
# Should I include the fee in the sent bitcoin amount?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-03-13)

I'm using Electrum and want to purchase something with Bitcoins. When I get to the bitpay screen with all the details (And the timer) I input the information into the electrum client, which then generates a Fee for the transaction.

My question is: I need to send an exact amount, will the fee take the amount straight out of the amount being sent (And therefore send too low an amount) or do I need to add the fee to the amount being sent?

i.e Let's say the site requests exactly 0.05 bitcoins, fee is 0.02. Do I send 0.07 and let it take the fee, or do I send 0.05 and it takes the fee out of the wallet another way?

Thanks.

**Tags:** transaction-fees, electrum


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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-03-14. Score: 1

The fee is going to be separate from the amount.

Using your exmaple:
If you need to send bitpay 0.05 btc, you enter 0.05 for the amount field and 0.02 for the fee field. **Do not send bitpay 0.07 btc**

If you specify a fee of 0.02 btc and you only have 0.06 btc combined in all of your addresses, electrum will alert you that you don't have enough.

Please note that the fee is something that you decide you want to include. It is not a fixed value, but there is a minimum if you want to get your transaction included into a block in a reasonable amount of time. Looking at the current block, 402557, transaction fees look like they are around 0.001 btc. The fee can depend on a couple of things like age of coins, size of transaction, and/or how fast you want your transaction included. You may also want to increase the fee since more and more blocks are reaching the size limit and miners will favor a more profitable transaction.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2016-11-09. Score: 0

The transaction fees are just a way to indicate to the miner that this transaction is important and needs to be verified ASAP. The higher the fees the faster it is verified.  
In your case, you only need to specify the value to pay and the fees if needed (generally there is a default amount of 0.0001 that is used). These transaction fees are not paid to the other person's wallet, neither is iit given to any payment gateway, it stays with the transaction for the miner to claim but still gets cut from your wallet. The amount of fees you want to add is completely upto you.  
Please make sure that if you are using a previous transaction that has a higher amount paid to you (eg. you were paid 1BTC and you need to give 0.5 away), you have a return address for the remaining bitcoins (0.5BTC) to come back to your wallet else it may all go as transaction fees.


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