Answers.Body: <p>The answers are easily discovered by reading trade publications and reviewing videos posted by industry insiders.  Industry professionals don't keep secret things as simple as how they deal with 8K workflows. 
   Indeed, they talk about it so as to signal to prospective employees and customers that they are 8K-ready.</p>
  
  <p>That said, your question is impossible to answer because it relies on false assumptions: I have an iMac Pro, and I can render 8K video in realtime or near-realtime (I don't have the most powerful model).</p>
  
  <p>Your question is also vague, because 8K video can mean many things: it can describe the acquisition format, the exhibition format, or both.  Again, it is straightforward (with the right CPU/GPU/IO subsystems, costing less than $10,000) to render 8K source material to a variety of exhibition formats.  With the recently released "consumer" 8K displays (costing ~ $4000), Linus Tech Tips [showed how to hook up not one, but two 8K displays to a single GPU],<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DTpFz8QJoM" rel="nofollow noreferrer">1</a> further demonstrating that while it's not cheap, it's neither esoteric nor prohibitively expensive for anybody who can afford to spend sports car money on their computers.</p>
  
  <p>Finally, and this may be the most helpful aspect of the answer to your question: proxy files remain the preferred way to scale video assets to gigabit network bandwidths and laptop levels of performance.  It is also preferred by VFX houses which may have hundreds or thousands of layers of textures, plates, effects, etc.  Compositing thousands of layers is not a real-time process, and there an 8K rendering pipeline can really gum up the works.  Again, the trade publications have many articles explaining the process for creating the proxies, applying the effects, and then rescaling to exhibition format.</p>
  
  <p>As tools, techniques, and technologies are rapidly advancing, the best way to get the latest answer to such a question would be to search for "8k workflow".  Add "youtube" if you want to see a video that answers your question.  Add "vfx" if you care about that.  Add your favorite movie title and maybe that will hit as well.  For example: searching for "8k workflow vfx guardians of the galaxy" led to <a href="http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/guardians-galaxy-vol-2-aces-workflow/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this article</a> about Guardians of the Galaxy2, which covers in detail your question.</p>
  
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Body: <p>Rendering 45 seconds of 8K video on latest iMac Pro using Adobe Premiere takes about 24 hours.
  <strong>How blockbusters producers deal with such a high-res format to edit and transform a large amount of scenes and render them without spending a year?</strong></p>
  
  <p><strong>Idea 1:</strong></p>
  
  <p>They use clusters of "general public computers" (eg. iMac Pro) to dispatch rendering and increase CPU performance (and therefore rendering duration)? If so, how many of them in average?</p>
  
  <p><strong>Idea 2:</strong></p>
  
  <p>They deal with a lower resolution format, then all modifications applied are saved as an "history", and this history is then applied to the higher resolution format, on a distant high-scaled server cluster which only replicates transformations recorded?</p>
  
  <p><em>Disclaimer: I'm totally noob in this field but my i7 MacBook Pro almost die when playing a compressed 4K video, so I'm pretty curious of various techniques used by professionals to seamlessly deal with 8K videos on such a volume of data</em>.</p>
  
  <p>Thanks a lot!</p>
  
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Comments.Text: This is a bit too broad a question as editing workflows cover a lot of ground. Can you narrow your questions down? Also, high end studios tend to be secretive about their exact tools and methods as they are considered to be part of their competitive advantage. If you want to know more about your Idea 1, search for *render farms* and for your Idea 2, search for *proxy editing* and *edit decision lists (EDLs)*.
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Comments.Text: Thank you so much @MichaelLiebman, that's exactly what I was looking for, I didn't even know which keywords to type in my Google query — and I'm pretty sure it's gonna help curious but noob people like me in the future. Wish I could "accept" your comment!
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Comments.Text: I'd add "offline" and "roundtrip" to the list of search terms for #2.
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Title: How blockbusters movie producers deal with 8K videos editing
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ThreadText: # How blockbusters movie producers deal with 8K videos editing
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2018-05-02)
  
  Rendering 45 seconds of 8K video on latest iMac Pro using Adobe Premiere takes about 24 hours.
  **How blockbusters producers deal with such a high-res format to edit and transform a large amount of scenes and render them without spending a year?**
  
  **Idea 1:**
  
  They use clusters of "general public computers" (eg. iMac Pro) to dispatch rendering and increase CPU performance (and therefore rendering duration)? If so, how many of them in average?
  
  **Idea 2:**
  
  They deal with a lower resolution format, then all modifications applied are saved as an "history", and this history is then applied to the higher resolution format, on a distant high-scaled server cluster which only replicates transformations recorded?
  
  *Disclaimer: I'm totally noob in this field but my i7 MacBook Pro almost die when playing a compressed 4K video, so I'm pretty curious of various techniques used by professionals to seamlessly deal with 8K videos on such a volume of data*.
  
  Thanks a lot!
  
  **Tags:** editing, post-production
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: This is a bit too broad a question as editing workflows cover a lot of ground. Can you narrow your questions down? Also, high end studios tend to be secretive about their exact tools and methods as they are considered to be part of their competitive advantage. If you want to know more about your Idea 1, search for *render farms* and for your Idea 2, search for *proxy editing* and *edit decision lists (EDLs)*.  
  > **username_0**: Thank you so much @username_1, that's exactly what I was looking for, I didn't even know which keywords to type in my Google query — and I'm pretty sure it's gonna help curious but noob people like me in the future. Wish I could "accept" your comment!  
  > **username_2**: I'd add "offline" and "roundtrip" to the list of search terms for #2.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2018-05-07. Score: 1
  
  The answers are easily discovered by reading trade publications and reviewing videos posted by industry insiders. Industry professionals don't keep secret things as simple as how they deal with 8K workflows.
  Indeed, they talk about it so as to signal to prospective employees and customers that they are 8K-ready.
  
  That said, your question is impossible to answer because it relies on false assumptions: I have an iMac Pro, and I can render 8K video in realtime or near-realtime (I don't have the most powerful model).
  
  Your question is also vague, because 8K video can mean many things: it can describe the acquisition format, the exhibition format, or both. Again, it is straightforward (with the right CPU/GPU/IO subsystems, costing less than $10,000) to render 8K source material to a variety of exhibition formats. With the recently released "consumer" 8K displays (costing ~ $4000), Linus Tech Tips [showed how to hook up not one, but two 8K displays to a single GPU],[1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DTpFz8QJoM) further demonstrating that while it's not cheap, it's neither esoteric nor prohibitively expensive for anybody who can afford to spend sports car money on their computers.
  
  Finally, and this may be the most helpful aspect of the answer to your question: proxy files remain the preferred way to scale video assets to gigabit network bandwidths and laptop levels of performance. It is also preferred by VFX houses which may have hundreds or thousands of layers of textures, plates, effects, etc. Compositing thousands of layers is not a real-time process, and there an 8K rendering pipeline can really gum up the works. Again, the trade publications have many articles explaining the process for creating the proxies, applying the effects, and then rescaling to exhibition format.
  
  As tools, techniques, and technologies are rapidly advancing, the best way to get the latest answer to such a question would be to search for "8k workflow". Add "youtube" if you want to see a video that answers your question. Add "vfx" if you care about that. Add your favorite movie title and maybe that will hit as well. For example: searching for "8k workflow vfx guardians of the galaxy" led to [this article](http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/guardians-galaxy-vol-2-aces-workflow/) about Guardians of the Galaxy2, which covers in detail your question.
  
  
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