Answers.Body: <p>Audio drift can have a couple of causes, dropped frames (which a TBC can help with), and unstable clocks, where the audio isn't recorded at quite the precise rate it should be, causing drift, as Michael correctly pointed out.</p>
  <p>Dropped frames caused by tape dropouts are a problem if the device skips a frame, without skipping the corresponding frame of audio. A TBC helps with this, as it will ensure the vertical sync pulse is there for each frame, even if the tape has quality issues - it will ensure your capture device always sees a frame. LOTS of older PC capture devices I tried were impacted by dropped frames. The most reliable method I found was using a dedicated HDD/DVD recorder unit, all the ones I used would always maintain the correct frame rate (without input via TBC), and the audio would always be in sync. I also sometimes used a MiniDV deck to achieve the same, which has no choice but to always record a frame, and therefore keep audio/video in sync.</p>
  <p>Doing it via PC, I've only had success with 1 device, a &quot;Dazzle DVD Recorder HD&quot; that I bought in 2011. It came bundled with a copy of Pinnacle Studio HD, and it all runs on an old Windows XP machine I keep for that purpose. I don't know if it is the hardware or the software (or maybe the combination), but this device has worked for me in transferring tapes and keeping things in sync, and I've not had to buy another device since coming across this one.</p>
  <p>If you can find a combo VHS/DVD recorder unit (I'm pretty sure they are no longer manufactured), they are usually the most reliable solution to doing this without a lot of effort. A DVD Recorder (with analog inputs) will also do the job, mine had a HDD which you would record to first, and then output those files onto a DVD. I stopped using the unit when the DVD drive eventually failed. Otherwise you are stuck just trying the various analog USB capture devices on the market, which like I've said, I've found to have mixed results, and only come across one device so far that does the job reliably.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>No, a TBC won't solve an audio-video sync problem. Most likely the sync problem is coming from a shortcut in the capture device or driver that samples the audio and video with separate and/or unstable clocks. A TBC built into a &quot;prosumer&quot; VTR like the one in your link will give you <em>slightly</em> better video quality. So would using the S-Video out instead of NTSC/PAL composite, if your capture device supports it.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>A TBC will definitely solve the audio-video sync problem. I started with cheap Amazon/Ebay sourced transfer devices from China doing countless edits to get the audio right. A Blackmagic Intensity for good colour representation along  with a professional quality VCR with inbuilt TBC is the best way to go for a faultless transfer. Been doing this for years with no problems since.</p>
  
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Body: <p>In the process of digitizing family VHS tapes, amateur video producers often encounter audio drift or skew where the audio track becomes out of sync with the video:</p>
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  <p>It slowly dawned on me that the audio and video weren’t simply offset — they captured at different rates. They diverged more and more throughout the tape. To keep them in sync, I’d repeatedly have to adjust the audio manually every few minutes of tape.</p>
  <p><a href="https://mtlynch.io/digitizing-1/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://mtlynch.io/digitizing-1/</a></p>
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  <p>What causes audio drift when digitizing analog video such as VHS tapes?</p>
  <p>How can audio drift be avoided at record-time when digitizing analog video?</p>
  <p>Common advice across the web is to use an advanced VCR with an integrated <strong>Time Base Corrector</strong>. Does using a TBC do anything to correct audio drift?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I don't have an answer. I don't think there are timestamps on video and audio contents in the VHS tape;  my speculation is the analog to digital software.
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Title: What causes audio sync drift when digitizing VHS?
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ThreadText: # What causes audio sync drift when digitizing VHS?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-10-21)
  
  In the process of digitizing family VHS tapes, amateur video producers often encounter audio drift or skew where the audio track becomes out of sync with the video:
  
  > It slowly dawned on me that the audio and video weren’t simply offset — they captured at different rates. They diverged more and more throughout the tape. To keep them in sync, I’d repeatedly have to adjust the audio manually every few minutes of tape.
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  > <https://mtlynch.io/digitizing-1/>
  
  What causes audio drift when digitizing analog video such as VHS tapes?
  
  How can audio drift be avoided at record-time when digitizing analog video?
  
  Common advice across the web is to use an advanced VCR with an integrated **Time Base Corrector**. Does using a TBC do anything to correct audio drift?
  
  **Tags:** sync, digital-recording, vhs, analog, digitisation
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: I don't have an answer. I don't think there are timestamps on video and audio contents in the VHS tape;  my speculation is the analog to digital software.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2020-10-22. Score: 3
  
  Audio drift can have a couple of causes, dropped frames (which a TBC can help with), and unstable clocks, where the audio isn't recorded at quite the precise rate it should be, causing drift, as username_3 correctly pointed out.
  
  Dropped frames caused by tape dropouts are a problem if the device skips a frame, without skipping the corresponding frame of audio. A TBC helps with this, as it will ensure the vertical sync pulse is there for each frame, even if the tape has quality issues - it will ensure your capture device always sees a frame. LOTS of older PC capture devices I tried were impacted by dropped frames. The most reliable method I found was using a dedicated HDD/DVD recorder unit, all the ones I used would always maintain the correct frame rate (without input via TBC), and the audio would always be in sync. I also sometimes used a MiniDV deck to achieve the same, which has no choice but to always record a frame, and therefore keep audio/video in sync.
  
  Doing it via PC, I've only had success with 1 device, a "Dazzle DVD Recorder HD" that I bought in 2011. It came bundled with a copy of Pinnacle Studio HD, and it all runs on an old Windows XP machine I keep for that purpose. I don't know if it is the hardware or the software (or maybe the combination), but this device has worked for me in transferring tapes and keeping things in sync, and I've not had to buy another device since coming across this one.
  
  If you can find a combo VHS/DVD recorder unit (I'm pretty sure they are no longer manufactured), they are usually the most reliable solution to doing this without a lot of effort. A DVD Recorder (with analog inputs) will also do the job, mine had a HDD which you would record to first, and then output those files onto a DVD. I stopped using the unit when the DVD drive eventually failed. Otherwise you are stuck just trying the various analog USB capture devices on the market, which like I've said, I've found to have mixed results, and only come across one device so far that does the job reliably.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-10-22. Score: 2
  
  No, a TBC won't solve an audio-video sync problem. Most likely the sync problem is coming from a shortcut in the capture device or driver that samples the audio and video with separate and/or unstable clocks. A TBC built into a "prosumer" VTR like the one in your link will give you *slightly* better video quality. So would using the S-Video out instead of NTSC/PAL composite, if your capture device supports it.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2022-04-03. Score: 0
  
  A TBC will definitely solve the audio-video sync problem. I started with cheap Amazon/Ebay sourced transfer devices from China doing countless edits to get the audio right. A Blackmagic Intensity for good colour representation along with a professional quality VCR with inbuilt TBC is the best way to go for a faultless transfer. Been doing this for years with no problems since.
  
  
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