Answers.Body: <p>You can work around it using multiple compositions.  Do one composition to generate the 3d layer and then use that composition within another to handle the blending (or vice versa depending on your needs).</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Could you give a basic outline? I guess I'd do Raytace write the text, extrude the text, save that comp. New file, load that comp but in classic 3d and it'll still be extruded - then I add the ground and light and whatnot? Is that what you mean? Will I need to get the text into position as best as possible prior to doing the extrusion or can I save that for when I'm working with the shadows?
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Answers.Text: @Ryan - not a new file, just create a new composition within your project.  I believe the renderer is per composition, though I don't have access to my AE machine at the moment to verify.
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Answers.Text: just tried that and it didn't work. As soon as I brought the comp with the extruded text into the Classic 3D "scene" the extruding flattens out. Edit Q with screenshot.
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Answers.Text: @Ryan - ok, I'll give it a shot when I get home today.  I was actually planning on working on some 3d AE stuff for a conference I'm working this weekend already anyway.
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Answers.Text: @Ryan - when I nested a ray-traced composition as a layer in a classic 3d composition, it worked as I expected.  I'm not sure what is happening in your scene.
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Answers.Text: I just ran it again and isolated exactly where the issue happens. Maybe you did something different? New screenshots above.
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Answers.Text: let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/12539/discussion-between-aj-henderson-and-ryan)
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Body: <p>I followed <a href="http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials/3d_shadows/" rel="nofollow noreferrer" title="Video Copilot 3D Shadows">Video Copilot 3D Shadows</a> tutorial to create a nice shadow on my text. Because of the angle I'm doing though which is much more ... perspective I suppose you could say it could really use a little depth to it. I looked up if AE could do extrusion (also since I've been told some basic 3D is built-in to AE by members of this exchange) and found <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mZsANPiv-Y" rel="nofollow noreferrer" title="How to Extrude Text in AE">How to Extrude Text in AE</a>. The problem is this tutorial tells me to change my Renderer to Ray-Traced 3D as a prerequisite for extrusion but if I do that it tells me Blending Modes don't work and clicking okay anyways seems to agree as my ground on Multiply goes back to Normal with no option to change.</p>
  
  <p><strong>Extruded Text</strong></p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wrAyI.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></p>
  
  <p><strong>Extruded Text moved into scene</strong></p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/ECxCm.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></p>
  
  <p><strong>Extruded text when I try to make it 3D for shadows, light and placement in scene</strong></p>
  
  <p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/o4fyW.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></p>
  
  <p>Is there a native way in After Effects to combine both Layer Modes and Extruded Text?</p>
  
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Title: Is there a way to do both Extruded Text and Layer Modes natively in After Effects?
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ThreadText: # Is there a way to do both Extruded Text and Layer Modes natively in After Effects?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2014-01-16)
  
  I followed [Video Copilot 3D Shadows](http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials/3d_shadows/ "Video Copilot 3D Shadows") tutorial to create a nice shadow on my text. Because of the angle I'm doing though which is much more ... perspective I suppose you could say it could really use a little depth to it. I looked up if AE could do extrusion (also since I've been told some basic 3D is built-in to AE by members of this exchange) and found [How to Extrude Text in AE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mZsANPiv-Y "How to Extrude Text in AE"). The problem is this tutorial tells me to change my Renderer to Ray-Traced 3D as a prerequisite for extrusion but if I do that it tells me Blending Modes don't work and clicking okay anyways seems to agree as my ground on Multiply goes back to Normal with no option to change.
  
  **Extruded Text**
  
  ![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/wrAyI.jpg)
  
  **Extruded Text moved into scene**
  
  ![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/ECxCm.jpg)
  
  **Extruded text when I try to make it 3D for shadows, light and placement in scene**
  
  ![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/o4fyW.jpg)
  
  Is there a native way in After Effects to combine both Layer Modes and Extruded Text?
  
  **Tags:** after-effects, 3d
  
  
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  ## 1 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2014-01-16. Score: 1 | Accepted answer
  
  You can work around it using multiple compositions. Do one composition to generate the 3d layer and then use that composition within another to handle the blending (or vice versa depending on your needs).
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Could you give a basic outline? I guess I'd do Raytace write the text, extrude the text, save that comp. New file, load that comp but in classic 3d and it'll still be extruded - then I add the ground and light and whatnot? Is that what you mean? Will I need to get the text into position as best as possible prior to doing the extrusion or can I save that for when I'm working with the shadows?  
  > **username_1**: @username_0 - not a new file, just create a new composition within your project.  I believe the renderer is per composition, though I don't have access to my AE machine at the moment to verify.  
  > **username_0**: just tried that and it didn't work. As soon as I brought the comp with the extruded text into the Classic 3D "scene" the extruding flattens out. Edit Q with screenshot.  
  > **username_1**: @username_0 - ok, I'll give it a shot when I get home today.  I was actually planning on working on some 3d AE stuff for a conference I'm working this weekend already anyway.  
  > **username_1**: @username_0 - when I nested a ray-traced composition as a layer in a classic 3d composition, it worked as I expected.  I'm not sure what is happening in your scene.  
  > **username_0**: I just ran it again and isolated exactly where the issue happens. Maybe you did something different? New screenshots above.  
  > **username_1**: let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/12539/discussion-between-aj-username_1-and-username_0)  
  
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