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# Arrogant Bastard - PONY v3.3x

- **ID**: 565375
- **Author**: QuadPipe
- **Type**: Checkpoint
- **Base Model**: Pony
- **Base Model Type**: Standard
- **Model Version ID**: 921721




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— v3\.3x PONY Update —

* Better anatomy and human textures
* Reduced need for complex negatives
* Increased prompt sensitivity
* Reduced need for quality prompting

**NOTE**

This version is very sensitive to quality prompt tokens (saturation, ultra\-rez, stuff like that) If you get a solid color generation or noise generation it’s likely because your prompt is over\-baking quality or you’re using an overbaked Lora. Try removing that token or reducing weight (Lora weight reduction from 1\.0 to 0\.8 usually solves it but you may have to go lower if the Lora is super\-baked)

This is still doing well at 30\-50 steps. Once I dial the quality in where I’d like it, I’ll work on reducing required steps to speed things up.  
  
\*I've had two people mention that they were having problems with this model, I've asked them to share any workflows and prompts so I can look into it. If it is a problem with the model, I'll issue a hotfix for v3\.3x once I solve it. Other than that, remember that this one is pretty sensitive and may not need super elaborate prompts. 

— v2\.12 PONY Update —

* Better Prompt Adherence
* Improved Textures
* Realistic Texture and Lighting improvements

\*\* I'm still learning Pony training, so bear with me as I work out kinks in my system. This model is still a little bit of a bugger when it comes to animals. I've improved aging, but you may need to beat it over the head a bit in your prompts: e.g. Elderly man/woman, old man/woman, gray hair, wrinkles etc... The model definitely has a hotness problem that I'm working on (and making progress with). I've made some changes in the training to get it to produce different faces more frequently \- I've noticed a lot of Pony models seem to be trained on specific faces so I'm trying to break it out of that a bit. It is pretty good at maintain a "character" within a prompt. So the person you get on gen1 is usually the person you get on gen20\. Anyway, it's still pretty good between 20\-50 steps and I've tried hard to make score prompting work but optional. So you'll see variations depending on whether you use that or not. Other than that, enjoy and let me know about all the cool problems you discover so I can work on sorting them out in the next version.

— v1\.1b PONY Update —

I’ve been asked several times to drop a pony version, so I have. BUT… this is my first Pony model and I’m learning a lot about how to tune this sucker so bear with me. This version is pretty good with people but needs a bit more arm\-twisting with things and animal primary subjects. I’m also testing early access as a way to help explore some future FLUX versions. Anyway, enjoy and let me know what I can do better or even if you just like it. It responds well to 20\-50 steps and score prompting works but isn’t necessary.

\-\- v3\.1 Update \-\-

* A couple of bug fixes
* Better upscaling response
* Improved Skin/Hair textures
* Better prompt adherence

\-\- v2\.5 Update \-\-

* Better Prompt Handling
* Improved Textures
* Improved Lighting

\-\- v1\.11a \-\-

My models always start as an update to an existing model until I do something weird.  
  
Anyway, while training this one I discovered something that had a huge influence on my training data and refinement. I'll treat that as the secret sauce for the moment, but it ended up diverting away from my initial plans and had to become its own thing.

So this started with my model [Aardvark 2024](https://civitai.com/models/305199/aardvark-2024-photography) and then quickly started going down a different road. About half\-way through this I was completely blown away by Pony and I have to give so much praise to @PurpleSmartAI for that project. Really amazing. This model does not include Pony at all though, I was just inspired by the work and it changed some of my thinking.   
  
This is definitely starting as a v1\.0 \- and I will be updating it, more quickly I think due to how everything came together.

Let me know what you think, and I'll incorporate your feedback into my future training.   
  
Oh... I get asked a lot about whether I'll turn these into SDXL models \- I'm not sure yet and I have a pretty good reason. I train and use embeddings a lot for my own work and SDXL has been a bit of a bugger for me to work around. I'll keep experimenting there but I'm not going to release anything until I know I have it right.

I want to add a shout\-out to [3mcg33](https://civitai.com/user/3mcg33) who has some incredible prompting skills. I frequently try their prompts when I'm testing models and I want to make sure I give credit where credit is due. The chimp in the suit is a great example, 100% inspired by 3mcg33\.



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*Content copied from Civitai: [Arrogant Bastard](https://civitai.com/models/565375) on 2024-10-06 06:14:44.304972+00:00*
