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arxiv:2508.08221

Part I: Tricks or Traps? A Deep Dive into RL for LLM Reasoning

Published on Aug 11
· Submitted by CheeryLJH on Aug 12
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Abstract

A systematic review of reinforcement learning techniques for large language model reasoning reveals clear guidelines and demonstrates that a minimalist combination of techniques can improve performance over existing strategies.

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Reinforcement learning for LLM reasoning has rapidly emerged as a prominent research area, marked by a significant surge in related studies on both algorithmic innovations and practical applications. Despite this progress, several critical challenges remain, including the absence of standardized guidelines for employing RL techniques and a fragmented understanding of their underlying mechanisms. Additionally, inconsistent experimental settings, variations in training data, and differences in model initialization have led to conflicting conclusions, obscuring the key characteristics of these techniques and creating confusion among practitioners when selecting appropriate techniques. This paper systematically reviews widely adopted RL techniques through rigorous reproductions and isolated evaluations within a unified open-source framework. We analyze the internal mechanisms, applicable scenarios, and core principles of each technique through fine-grained experiments, including datasets of varying difficulty, model sizes, and architectures. Based on these insights, we present clear guidelines for selecting RL techniques tailored to specific setups, and provide a reliable roadmap for practitioners navigating the RL for the LLM domain. Finally, we reveal that a minimalist combination of two techniques can unlock the learning capability of critic-free policies using vanilla PPO loss. The results demonstrate that our simple combination consistently improves performance, surpassing strategies like GRPO and DAPO.

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We've conducted a comprehensive analysis of RL techniques for LLM reasoning, revealing surprising insights about what really works! 🚀

And surprisingly, we uncovered that employing only two techniques can unlock the learning capability of LLM-driven policies! 🎉🎉
Such findings challenge the prevailing trend of over-engineering RL pipelines and underscores the importance of contextual adaptability in technique selection.🤯

🧵 Key discoveries:
• Different advantage normalization (and loss aggregations) has its own preferred scenarios!
• Group-level mean and batch-level standard deviation enable further robust normalization!
• Clip Higher prefers promoting high-quality exploration for aligned models!
• Unlock your LLM reasoning pattern with our Lite PPO, which only involves advantage normalization (group-level mean, batch-level std) and token-level loss aggregation!

🔨 Real-world impact:

We present clear guidelines for selecting RL techniques tailored to specific setups, and provide a reliable roadmap for practitioners navigating the RL for the LLM domain from from data, reward model-type, and model size perspectives.

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