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| 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992)

10 Cctober 196)

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

BUBJECT: iéeoting with De, MIEC Cardona on 6 Cctober

I, Or. MIRC arrived about 9:50 a.m. for the meeting wo had
, $6t at $9:60; again he was driven by nis secretary whom he introduced,
As during the (rot ineeting, she remained outelde inthe car. Cur
tateting lasted anil! 12:99 noon, : :

Z Firet, Dr, MIRG handed me a goto in longhand Jisting the”
tegies discussed with we sa Cetoser. These points are: ;

; a. Croupe conducting propagaada, ate. with Ageney support
should raceive their support and be coordinated through the Council.

BOA propaganda campaign should be wayed by the Coancil
abined at: .
(1) Cabs, via a teng wave radio station in Key ¥ cot.
(2) Cubana in Miami and other. U, S. areaa by:
. fa) Subsidising Diaris de Jaa Americas.

(a) Contracting for time on radio etations.

(3) Latia America, with a plan such ao the Cparacion
Crista, "

ce. Underground Activitios.

(1) Previaion of monthly funde te Council for procuring i
Cuban pesos to eend ta the saven-odd resistance ;

6Fouge in Cuba through reliable chanuels (such as j E
previoualy aent through tha Italian 2 rcbaasy), : :

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Then Dr, >(1KC handed me a plas (in: Engliah) for elandeatina
action prepared by his military collaloraters, whom he BAMed as :
Colonel Manus! VAKELA Castro, an officer of the Academy, Captata
Eorique DESPAIGNE, and Colonoe? (fau) MON TEAGULI, He atated
that they ware of the BARC:UIN sFoup and had been priscners,

hit Feapect to the plan Jor claadesting Operations in Cuba,

"he atated that 30c men could be eaented uson for eoramando actioa, part

Of thorn‘bore, part iu Cuba, Ho reilavated that a commando uperation

Was ossuatial to bolster morale ariszz the antl-Caetrs elaments in Cuba
atel in exile sa well as to Conduct pabotave that would further waaken .
Cabana economy aud the Cornmunist regime, Ha aald that for this operation
U.S. help would be necessary tn grovidiug waapona, arnino, demeslittons,
equipment, and funde, tia proposed that if thin plan was considered ta
have merit, that I arrange to have eomaoue mact with hig milltacy mon

to work out the dotaile. After ail preparations had been rade and
matoriel provided, ote. the operatica wouid be purely a Cuban affair.
(WICTE: Plan turned over to Thomsen at ou? ne eting at 13:30 an

6 Cctober for tranamiaaston, } ; :

4. fequect for Aras ete, to send to Escambra
EASE LOT AE ete. t6 cend to Escambray

br.24IRO ronarked that over & month azo he had made a request
fo Clark for arma for the anti-Castro incurvonts in the i sca:mbray, but
to Gato had heard nothing relative tc the request. Ha commented wryly,

"back but never hear anu ausyvor." He evid that the (ghtera there should

be supported. fr, MIRC stated that he had a boat (srovided by ua) and
& means for delivery of the arma, Cavaldo RA MIRE & fo chief af the

5 scambray group. '
| COMMAANT: Has anyUiing bees done abeut this request?

3. Information an Arms Heceivad by Castro Rerime
i ere eee ee OLED FO Bio

Or, MUG handed rao a lon« veport which he satd was brouzit

to him by the Argentine Avoasgador to Cuba when the lattor Came te the
U. 5. at the time of President PRONGILMS visit. * be said the Ambasoador

would not divulge the source of the information but commanted, “You will
know, ‘'
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Or, MIRG oald thers was no way to determine the acenracy
of the figures givon of planes, guns, ete, received frore: tha Soviet bloe
{and Raly end Canada) but aven if ths (igures wore skag serrated 109 por
Cent, thay would still bo Impressive,

Ot -,. - ¥lo added that Castro ie daily becoming stronger militarily
ho with Weapons’ éod with & large militia of ¢lose to 303/009 bolas troined ;
i te nee them while the oconomy coutinues (o deteriorate, F erbape only . :
i half the militia wouid be offective, But tuat is siseable, Thus, Na sald, ;

‘ + the longer the delay in positive military action to overthrow Castro, the ;

"+ greater will be the task, ‘We must act soon, vigorously and effectively, :

: ‘to fesure victcry, Another cofeat would be disastrous and would make

i . Cubans, Latin Areeriéans and otheza believe Castra to bs invincibia,

: Thon would come accommodations and oven worse, the fraplanting of

i Castro-pecked’ Téegimea in the heruisphere, And the U. 5. weald sufier

worst of ell, ‘being ¢ dlecredited for defeat and “gullt of interforenca, *
“in ine UN na nation woud otand beside the U. 3."

1 6. Proposal that Council zo to & ~uba with’ Commando Srone and . ;

Latablien a Gaveruiment on Cub fydaa wadl

Dy, MINS thea declared that he wa¢ ccavinced that Castro i
1 - would never be overthrown by all tho propaganda, the eabrtasge, commands :
; raids, guerrilla activities, rupture of diplomatic relations and deteriorating

i ecensniy, anid that tt was inconceivable to.cestablish o vovaranent-teesite ‘
for nothing would c:.me of It; that the only soluilen for defeating the
Castro regime was ior the Xevelutionary Caunell to goto Cuba and estab.
lish @ goveramert on Cuban poll, ask recognition by all friendly couutries
aad oillitary aseistance wf tin prircizal ally, the U. «. » ondthat the U.S. \
be ready to intervene immediately with ita Forces. ‘This would a:l have

tc take place in a matter ci 43 hours, otherwise ie oule fail, I reecgalae
— that thie is a bold pian, but boldness ie necossary. There will be many ;
Pigke, tnany may be billed. As for mypeli, 1 don't care if 1 die, Thave :
iaat all my gereonal poasessiuns and ny sen is a prisoner, he reiterated :
that all zoust be well prepured in advance, thére must be no vaciliadion,
everything must proceed rapidly. Firat, a commando raid in feres te
Gelsa a pisces of Cuban lerritory, proferably near Gaantarsmo, aod losnve-
Giately the membera af the Council go ashore, proclaini a pruvisiansl
goverament, breadcast by radiv to all nations an appeal for recoyniticn
(and cables prepared in advance would glo be sent out), requeat U. 3. :
assistance, anti the U. 5. should furnleh euch assistance at orca in ade- :
quate strongth to ensure victory.

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Belore such an aetion ia undertaken, tha enemy rast be
scftened by propsyanca, fauctare, ratdy, undersruand action, and the
298 Of the peaple of Cusa rausi be prepared to accept the provisionai
sovernroéal throush propasanda, increasad knowledya of €be Council |
and fle unifying afforte, a a |

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Ge, MEINC asked ime what [thought of ibbepreject; did 7 think |
that Castro could be. overthrowa in Bay other way. [adroitted that
strong military action appeared necessary, | otated fartner that i
‘ : tf course Ma plan would have to be otudied at the. plgheat government Coot
: levaie. He proposed that be might elaborate a plan with bie rtlitary Oy

‘ colaboratora, and I eugzested that he dv this go that it might be examined a

and considered. . :

: Dr. MIRC dec lared that he was convinced that thia Communist ; oe |
dagger in tha side of the ftates could only ba eradicated by exch action, — en

: that the U.S. tg and will be blamed fer all dati-Castro prota sande,
: gadotage, ete. and that enemy ctaton will csenounce it Yor intervention _ _
I lo Cuba, but that ifthe U. 5. goes to the ald of a frienaly revoletionary. — - ot
i regime ostabliehed In the ceuntry and. hoiso it defeat the Soviet-baczed i
: : Communist rogime, ail friendly governmeata will agplaad, 7 Oy

: “Lhaye no parsenal politica: ambitions,’ dectared MIAO,

“lmevrely am tryiag to chair tae Counell, whose mission is ts unify tae H
: a anti-Castro elernsats inaide aad outelde of Cuba. If ths teara ien't con- {
a a sidered olfective, thea ¢hanze the pitcher. But I believe the Corneil rust i
po establish itself on Cub2n evil, and soca, Tirso is against us. °"The : unta
: del Este agresment will backfire avaliot the U. 5. if Castres te aNewed . | : i
; i to remain in Cuba. tm a year, alter tho politlesa of the ceuntriss re- ; poe :
i | ceiving U. 5. afd have gotten their handa an U. i. gold, they wild eay, | :
i : “Thanks to Castro, we got thie,’ And they will spend t: aa dn the past
i! . with no berefite to the social and ecovomic welfare of the feaple, © j

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7. Views about the Judzes and Lawyera

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Fo ; Tquericd Dr, AIRC as to his views relative to the Peiges aud :
! : lawyers and their future atatus, He said he Roped that they eegld all , |
i : Founite and that they euald be stvea sestotance as. in tha paet. He des i
poo Clared that Gr, ALABAL' wag aot qualified to be a justice and that ae wag - ;
i SG daing acthing but moking politics and trying tu discredit the Council . ;
; | Gad MIRG and VARNA, Dr. 21RO doctared that he, ao Price Lintoter |
: in the osrly days cf the Castro aevernment, bad named - LAZALU te tho

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Supreme Court, but that aow he considered 7 LABAU unfit to hold any
judicial position, : : . i i

_ &. Mombera of the Revolutionary Council

_ , Dr. MIRG. remorked that he had a meeting of the Council on
10 Cetober, Taskod what elements now composed it and-what ha pro-
posed to add, He namod.the following as presently in the Consejo: «>
Rescate.
. 30 de Novtembre
+ MRR a
Acelun Damoeratica
20 de Mayo - -
AAA Indepondiento ;
Montecristi . : M

_ Ho said ho had invited to join:

_ MRP
Unidad Revolucionaria -. . _
and awaited their reply, ,

He would aleo like to have the Workers, Studenta, and the
Professionals (Doctors, Lawyers, ote.) come into the Council. He be-
Heves Batistiancs and Comunistas and elements unwilling to. cooperate.

should be excluded, but that all other groups should be brought together

undor the Council. :
Ho contends that all anti-Castro activities, except clandestine

‘and military, should ba coordinated. by meradars of the Council, but that

the excepted activities should bs known oaly to him (MIRO),

9. Probable Argontine Rupture of Relations with Cuba

Dr. MIRO declared that he believed finminent the Argentine
rupture of relations with Cuba. He said the Argentine Ambassador to |
Guba (Julio AMCEDO) was ordered to return to Havans the had been
vacationing in the U. S. after FAONDIZI's visit); that VILLANUEVA, a
Secretary af tho Argentine Embassy in Cuba wan coming to sce MIRO
today; and further that he {MIAC) had received a Phore call last night

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from a Spaniard (Meanor FE RNANDE Z) in Buenos Alrea, ‘urging WIRG
a goto Buonos Airea to arouse aatl-Castro sentiment of the people,

Inag much ao some Argentine action against Cuba appeared imminent.

(FERNANDE 7 said be had already writtea MIRC a letter.) MIKG eays, |

“Of course, U'cannct go. Ibavo the Connejo meeting on tho 15th..

‘Furthermore, Iam going to New York on Cetober 11th or 12th for the

SIP. (Sectoded interamericana de Frensa) recting and havo. boen allotted
12 tninutes to address tho meeting. * :

40, Farce to attrnd Homage to: LACF RDA (Brasiliag who
Precipitated QUADKCS' reelynation on Octuber 15

Dr. MIRO sald he planned to. remain in Naw York City. laftor
11 and 12 Cetober SIP meoting), until Cétobery 15th to attend the homago
for LACERDA, othe Governor of: Guanabara province {a Brasil, ‘i41RO
probably’ will etay at the Fark Chambere Hote}, but will advise Clark

of bia location, -

i cominented that 1 would probably remain in Washington noxt
week in view of his plans, but that I might go to New York City to meet
with him, if 90. I.would get in touch with him and arrongo a moeting

thircugh’ Clarks: :

ik Propaganda Commiseton

I asked Dr, MIRO-about hia ideas on the future organization |
and atracture. of the Propaganda Commission. Ho stated that it is out-
alde the Consejo and act under his’ direct control, although tho Council
accountant has been passing funds to ft. Ho said CASS RILLC had resigned
as head of Propaganda and that he would like CONTE AGUF-.RC to handle .

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"it. He claimed that. MESTRE! tad not -done. anythin; with propagands,

12. MIRO’ Views Relative to Suprerns Court Justice or PRIO

boing Hecoznized as tiead of a Provisional Vovernment

Tasked Dr, MIRO if he believed that there were many anti-
Castro Cubaaa (both fo and out of Cuba) who favored PRIC, or the head
of the Supreme Court to be the Provisional president {f a sovernment were
to be established on Cuban coll, Ur, MULG declared that the revolution
ia a fact, and that practically nobody wants to go back to any former
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nouncod FRIC's activities acainat the Council! and ita efforts to’ unify
the anti-Castro clements, tic aaid that the people should bo given an
opportunity to elect their chicl of state after Castro's overthrow and

Feestablishment of arder in the island,

13. Cffliceo of Counes} (Consejo Revoluctonarte)

‘When ‘questioned about his bue inesa and private telephones,

_ MIRO: said, “The ‘business. phone is also in my: ‘Rauss, Phave no office ve =
- except in my ‘house, but that phone is always busy: 4JEMerssn. 2-4680),

So use tho. other phone WEfforaon 44-2751) when you wteh to. call me,"

“l need to. have 8 sma}! offices somewhere. away from my. home -

because all the activities there are driving my wife.crazy. I want to.
{lind something. modest 50 that no accusation can be nade of ostentation _

morely a room for nryaolf,. one {or my eecretary, and.ono for: rreotings, . =

The FRD had a place but at that place aloo wag the
It- would not be satisfactory. Tho F.RD

fo pow practically dead, k was the foreruangr of the Cansojo aa the
unifying agency of the anti-Castro resistaace, *

of the’ Couseil, ate..

ma, MIRO 's.
Groupe’:

. After De. MIRC. reiterated. hia view that he should be the
channel for funds snd coordinating the activities of groups outside the
Consejo ouch as the Students, FORD (Labor), ote., I aaid that I under- ©
stood that some of these elornents were unwiJliny to function under. the
Consejo; and that-in.view of that cituation, did he consider that an. .
Activity Committee might be organised with a delegate from ach of..
thege groups sad under the chairmanship ofa. momber of the ‘Consejo.
Thie would scrve to ‘coordiniato their activitios, give them a Cle-in with
the Consejo, yot not make them subservient to it. Dr. MIRC replicd —
that this would merely set up ancther Consejo outside of and parallel to
the existing Consejo. I did not pureue thie further, not having enough
background of these organizations to be able to discuss the matter

effectively,

a. Views. on Coordinating ‘tho Activities of Cther Exite-.

15, Tole; no Conversation with JRO on 7 Cetober

Before my departure {rom Miami for Washington on 7 October,
1 telephoned to Dr. MIRO (vom the airport. He appreciated the call and
gaked if I had seen in the morning paper the action taxen yestorday by

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the ALABAU Lawyere’ group in prociairsing Jullo CARCE RAN (one
“Ppgaident of Cuba at sr. He ane
pressed bis indignation at-thid unilateral "political" move by ALABAU
‘and his adhorents among the exiled lawyers and judres. Ho added his
beat wishes to 12 and reminded mo that he would probably go to Now

York on Cetober Lith or 12th for the SLP (sociedad Iuteramericana do
‘Pronsa}: mooting. I ‘Feplied thas [would appreciate if he wiuld contact -
” Clark aft hia arrival to-give nia location in New York City, aad that

‘request | {som me for an. appointment with bin, aT

Clar ght!

‘this: seemod doairablo, 1 ‘suggested. that in future phono conversations
-P.would,. bo‘ kaown.as. JUANITC., Ho agreed with pleasure that this would.
‘be.8 good proceduro. I wished bisa  Codepoed, and he repiiod ikowtse .

to. 8s
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. During. thood. figot two mestingo 1 endeavored to. ootablish ;
mysell favorably. with: ‘Dr. ‘MIRC and therobre. refrained: from bringing”

ep ‘détails of budget OF. oppooition to any of bis specific: proposals.
L Notoned, aoked various ‘quooticas, and he talked at length.

; la future meetings, after I have gained further background and.
‘pave. ‘more. -polley. guldance,. I shall be able to diocugs with hint specific |

iseucs and endsavor ‘to Feach agreémente or compromiass, 2 ae may bee
requirod, - . : on.

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