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JFK ASSASSINATION SYSTEM
IDENTIFICATION FORM

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194-10006-10311

DOD-AFFILIATED PERSONNEL AND INCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS
AC640653W-PAGES 45-47

DOCUMENT INFORMATIO.

USA
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AGENT REPORT
02/05/72

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KAMINSKI,

HANS D
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JOHN THE DEE JAY
LORD NELSON, WESTERN, KESSIN (BARS IN DATTELN)
MILITARY SUBJECTS

XR-71

STADTSCHAENKE BAR

C-RATIONS

PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT
UNCLASSIFIED

RELEASED WITH DELETIONS

03/07/95

REGRADED UNCLASSIFIED ON 2 SEP 94.
INCLUDED.

EXHIBITS NOT

AGENT REPORT

For use of this form, see FM 30- 17(C); AR 381-130; the proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence.

1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT 2. DATE SUBMITTED
February 1972

3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER

On 1 February 1972, Robert M. Creed, SP4, 51-54-4745, Security
Guard, Ys Team, 66th USK Artillery Detachment, Datteln (LC8424), Federal
Republic of Germany (FRG), was interviewed at his place of duty regarding
an incident of possible Counter-intelligence interest, and stated substantially
as follows:

4. REPORT OF FINDINGS

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aN ource was approached by a man who identified himself as John the

Dee Jay on 31 January 1972, in the Lord Nelson, a bar in Datteln. John

ithe Dee Jay was the Disc Jockey at the Lord Nelson. John sat down with

Source and began a normal conversation. The conversation soon turned to

military subjects. John asked about CPT FNU Myers and CPT FNU Jackson,

who supposedly had been assigned to the unit at one time. John mentioned

that he had taken pictures of Myers and his family. John asked Source about

radar and other military subjects, John constantly mentioned Security

Sergeants, phone numbers and personnel that were formerly at the unit.

John stated that he knew the last Security Sergeant of © Team, and was

interested in knowing who was now the Security Sergeant. At 2330 hours,

Source left the Lord Nelson and proceeded to the Western Bar, Datteln.

At the Western, Source met a man, name unknown, who owned the photography

shop across the street from the Western, whom Source described as a "drinking

buddy". Source and the unidentified man (UIM) left the Western about 0100

hours and proceeded to the Lord Nelson. At the Lord Nelson, Source and UI

were joined at their table by John the Dee Jay. Upon learning that Ui

was a Photographer, John asked him if he had ever taken pictures of a military

installation. The UID did not answer the question, but stated that he had

j taken pictures of a man named Julius (PHONETIC-NFI), Julius supposedly had

been an American stationed in Datteln with the US Army. The UIM became

nervous because of John's questioning, excused himself, and left the bar.

Source did not see UM anymore that evening. ‘Source and John remained

at the Lord Nelson. The conversation between Source and John returned to

military subjects. John spoke about military subjects with authority ana

apparent proficiency. John said many things about military subjects that

Source had no knowledge of. Source was unable to recall any of the specifics

of the conversation. Source felt dwarfed by John's military knowledge

and at one time asked John if he knew about the XR-71. John became very

interested and asked Source what was the XR-71. Source replied that he was

not allowed to talk about it, and the subject was dropped. John mentioned

twice during the evening, that he had been kicked off Haard Kaserne, where

C Team was located in Datteln, for being caught wearing a complete set of US

fatigues in downtown Datteln. The first time John mentioned the in¢ident

he said it occurred two_years_a ate he said it

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AGENT REPORT

Far use of thie form, coe PM 30°17(C): AR 361°130; the proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chiof of Seas far Intolligones.

1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT 2. DATE SUBMITTED
5 February 1972

3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER

[4 REPORT OF FINDINGS

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| happened in 1956. Source did not mention the diserepancy to John. John
fstabed that ne had also veen kicked off two or three kasernes in the Southy

on @ site in Southern FRG. Source was unable to recall the exact identi-
fication of the agency John claimed to have been interrogated by, but
ymentioned that it was something like MA, MD, MI, MAD, MAI, John said he
had been released after the interrogation and followed, but that he had
managed to lose the people who were following him. John mentioned that

he had paced off Haard Kaserne and knew exactly where and how to get on to
the Kaserne without being detected. Source and John left the Lord Nelson
yat 0300 hours and went to another bar in Datteln. Source thought the name of
the bar was the Kessin (PHONETIC), out was not sure. Upon arriving at the
Kessin, John said that he had to pick up his pay check from the owner of the
bar and left Source. John and the owner of the bar went into a private office
ffor about five minutes before John returned. .The owner of the Kessin also
owned the Lord Nelson and Western. Source and John left the Kessin at 430
yhours and proceeded by taxi to John's apartment, which was located above the
Western. John stated that if Source did not believe everything that he had
said, that Source could contact an Air Force Security Sergeant and confirm
everything. John gave Source a slip of paper (EXHIBIT ___), on which was the
neme of the Security Sergeant, his job title, station, and telephone numbers.
JJohn stated that if Source mentioned or showed the paper to anyone that it
would get the Security Sergeant into trouble. John also hinted that bodily
lharm might resuit to Source if the paper got into the wrong hands. John

gave Source an old US Air Force parka to wear back to the kaserne because it
Jwas cold and Source's own jacket was Light weight. In the pockets of the
parka were four beer coasters, (EXHIBITS > 5 > and ), anda
used streetcar ticket (EXHIBIT }. dohn arranged another meeting with
}Source for 1700 hours, 5 February 1972, at the Stadtschaenke Bar,. Datteln.
John gave a slip of paper (2XHIBIT ‘) to Source with the information for the
next meeting. John asked Source to obtain any information on Julius mentioned
iby UIM, that he could. John mentioned that he had known Cristobal Pimentel-
{Davilla and asked Source to obtain some C-Rations for him. Source then left
{John and returned to his unit. Source did not believe that he had supplied
any official information to John, but felt that it wes possible that he might
‘Thave as he was quite drunk before the evening ended. Source described
John as follows: Six to six feet one inch tall, weighing 180-190 pounds,
jslight build, black hair with long sideburns, and wore a red shirt with a
Inavy blue coat and tie, black shoes, long black overcoat and black fur hat.

SSIs cemerecamnd

5. TYPED NAME AND ORGANIZATION OF SPECIAL AGENT

HEINZ B. ICKERT, 66th MI Group _

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. NAME OF SUBJECT OF TITLE OF INCIDENT , 2. DATE SUBMITTED

5 February 1972

3. CONTROL SYMBOL OF FILE NUMBER

3 REMARKS: Source explained that the. XR-71 that he had mentioned
to John did not, to the best of his knowledge, exist.
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H 4. REPORT OF FINDINGS

AGENT'S NOTES: The UIM mentioned was the owner of the Althoff
Photo Shop, Hohe Strasse, Datteln.

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5. TYPED NAME AND ORGANIZATION OF SPECIAL AGENT 4 7 6. SIGNATURE OF SPECIAL AGENT : '
| HEINZ E. ICKERT, 66th MI Group Soo E’ RAY
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