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TITLE :
INTERVIEW AND MEETING SUMMARY

DATE : 07/25/75
PAGES : 3

SUBJECTS :
INTERVIEW WITH DAVID, PAUL (ALIAS).
~) SUBJ: ASSASSINATION INQUIRY

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DATE OF, LAST REVIEW : 10/07/93

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DATET IME“LOCAT ION: July 25, 1975; 608 Carroll Arms
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This morning, Joe and I met with Paul David
("P.D.") at the Carroll Arms for approximately
two hours. George Clarke from the CIA's General
Counsel's staff was present for the last fifteen
minutes of the interview.

Background:
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1948 51 5 Besastant to tHiegeneteotsstacion
1951-54 ~ Chief Rumanian Desk
1954-58 - Chief of Operations Against Communist

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1958-61 ~ AGhuls HES Pathiom “s-1G

1961-62 - Special Assistant to Helms

1962-63 - National War College (June 1962 -
July 1963)

1963-64 - Helms! Special. Assistant ~

1965-66 - UC SaaS: an jlicme 7 ~C

1966-69 - Gh: aii t2-z|

1969-73 - Services -
Chief of Staff in DDP. (Director
Clandestine Services)

1973 - Chief Career Management Personnel

1973-74 - Chief Plans & Programs for Directorate

Interview Summary:

Bissell “out of the blue" asked P.D. to read
and comment upon Zoogby's Cuban operations paper.
P.D. told Bissell that the paper/proposals "stunk"
{. . . "much like another Bay of Pigs"). Appar-
ently, Helms also read and liked P.D.'s comments.
After Bissell "left", Helms requested that P.D.
come on board as his staff assistant.

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P.D. stressed that he was not in the opera-
tional line of command ~~ "I provided an interface
for intelligence information." A typical day in
P.D.'s life:

~~ Screening cable traffic (7 - 9 a.m.)}.
Primarily cables relating to positive in-
telligence, to prepare Helms for his. daily
°9 a.m. hour-long meeting with DCI McCone.

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~~ Prepared a daily briefing for the White
House on Cuban intelligence.

~~ Preparing review of books such as "The
Invisible Government" and damage reports
{i.e., reports setting forth what sensitive
information exposed by book).

P.D. stressed that he was "out of touch with the
day-to-day operations 9f Task Force W". However,
he believes that Harvey kept Helms fully briefed.

Harvey, in P.D.'s own words, was "not an
ordinary man", .. . “egocentric”, "bombastic"
"one of the strongest proponents of compartmentali-
zation and need to know”. In addition, Harvey had
a law degree and a successful FBI stint prior to
joining the Agency.

Harvey had a thyroid problem. As one of the

"CIA's most intéresting characters", Harvey was
often talked about} P.D. has difficulty separating
personal experience from rumors. Describing

“) Harvey as a "four martini man at lunch”...

reer which, coupled with Harvey's thyroid medicine,
caused Harvey to be sleepy, etc., after lunch. In
fact, P.D. told us that this was the “last straw"
in McCone's eyes; i.e., apparently when McCone
called Harvey in to "discuss" the Kennedys’ com-
plaints about Harvey's utterings, it was immediately
after lunch and Harvey either fell asleep or failed
to pay attention. ("McCone did not have an audience."}
P.D. added that there was general “bad chemistry"
between McCone and Harvey.

P.D. noted Harvey's intense loyalty to "his people"
(including Helms and Geserey)s However, P.D.

is sure that even with these people, Harvey was
likely to have been extremely close-mouthed.

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