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TITLE: | MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE SPECIAL GROUP, 30 AUGUST 1962

DATE: 08/30/1962
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178-10003-10016 30 August 1962
3 MEMORANDUM FOX RECORD
3 . SVEJECT: Minutes of Meeting of the Special Group, 30 Auguse 1962
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. refSEit. Gin ral Taylor, Mr. Johnson, Mrs Cilpatric, General Carter,
# Genecal Leuntezer, and Mr. Bundy
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a Colonel Steakley was present fur Items 1 -3e
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i Mr, f-ford Herbert was present for Items 4-6, o. +.
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§ 1. Reconnatssance Ws ny
: A. BOD Peripheral Fiiuhts —
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4 The peripheral flights were approved as presented. It was
y noted that LOLLY weuld-invelve only a single aircraft as opposed to
: the previous two olane flights in this area, As to LUCESTTE and MICHELE,
¥ it wis jointed out that these flights would not be flosm while the

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Soviet niclear test prohibited zone was atill in effect. In response
to a gecaction fron Me. Jonnson as to why thesye flights were 40 rather
thaa 59 utles off the conse, Colonel Steanley said that che distance
selectec was 6 vartisble, depending on the purpose of the flight end
other conditthons,

Be Laos.

Generel Taylor asked if anyone cared to reopen this instter,

Mr. Giipatric presented the Defenne position, In view of the Soviat
Craunsport edreraft stand down and the indications that the Cormunists
were at least going through the motions of narrying out the agreement,
Defense was in favor of not reopening the matter uacil the 75 day
withdriwal period was cver ana an avaluution hsg been made of the degree
eof Consunist compliance. Genersl Lemnitzer, while willing te taka the
risk of waiting, said he vould bike to make fe clear that from the
wailitary point of view it vas most important that we have good informa-
tion on Communist activities. Thera Flights are our prime source of
chard inforsaiion., The consensus of the’Group was that this subject would
not be recpened until after the 75 day withdrawal period was over.

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Cc. Crerfitshes of South Laoy
(3) Colonel Steakley pointed out that there was one problem, «
in conection with « flat prohf{bitihon on photo flights over Laos, At '

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genercd policy te modified to permit high eicicude overflights (35,0C0
feet) te asd trom South Vietnan, by planes based in Thailand. Ic was
brought ouc thet the average activity level was about two missions about |
‘every three days. ‘There wig agreement thet photo recoanatsysance in
Reneral ayainst yuerrilla taryets vas difficule but that thia made it
all the more tmportant to do ail that-we cun, These fliches are
essentially covert, as, current sereemeats precludé the filing of flight

a plans for photo aircraft, Sir, Jonson eald chet the Department was
Willing to g9 along with this activity, duct felt chat the matter had
‘to be reviewed by At,uer euchority cue Lo hieocvery explicit previous
instructions to the contrary. The Group's ceciaion to approve thin
Specific exception cto the prohibition against photo flights over Laos
was later reported to higher authority.

(2) In discussing the matter above, the desirability of
redeploying the afirerart to South Vietnim was mentioned, This matter
was referred to Defense for-forcher cxamfnastton. It was also recognized,
that the South Vietnamese micht well be eiven some indigenous capabillty
for photo reconnaissance. It was elso sucvested that possible Luog
overfilehts, after the 75 day perfod had ciapsed, wight vell be puc in
the suandard overfiignce category rarher than being naodied a& a separate

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enroute to execute alsasiung in South Vietnam, He proposed that the

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a, The ELINT flights from Thatland were discussed and approved
with the understanding thae they would use the specific routes indicated

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E, The Agency's monthly forecast wee reviewed and noted, All

of the fFilghts contesined therein had been previously approved, Ceneral
_ Carter mentioned thac there might be an acditional requirement for .
flights over Cuba. "

KF. The dastroyer surveillance mission DESOTO was discussed and
approved. It was pointed wut that the ship generally operates 29 wiles
offshore, but closes to 12 miles under certain conditions. The Group
requested that they be informed (f any of the vartous ELINT operations
picked up unusual indications,

G, The Group reviewed certain submarine activiticn and approved
them as presented.

. General Carter raised the auestfLon of exactly how eppreoval should o
be obtained for ares and ammunition rasupply missions to the Meos. Let

eed thac thin was a matter for censulcation betwsen the Department

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\ of State and CLA, and nead not be referred to the Group for decisisn..

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3. Sovirt Sipnal Intelligence Shivs

Tne Grono considered an outline plan for “communication” with
Comaunise crewa., Ine general consensus was that this plan ¢{@ noc
fel within the purview of the Special Grova, It waa referred back

103 for further cevelopment, The matter will be discussed at a
Sraces Jes meeting to be hald in the naar ftucure. Mr. Glinatrfie also
expsngsed inter.st in seeing a wore datakled daveloraent of the con-
cope, Mr, Bundy palnced cut thot ve should be careful where such
avtiviticy are pursued, Generally speakien, they should be Limited to
the high seas or international air space General Carter raised tne
point thar this concept should not be seretehed to incluce defection
operations on lend, Thia {3 a highly skilled operation which requires
special attention ard control. The Group took no particular position
for or against the concept in referring-{t back to Defensa.

4, Chile ,

The Group reviewed the two Agency papers. Mr. Johnson strassed
the necessity for concealing U.S. particlpation in this operation and
also expressed some concern &bout the possibility of the fadicals
pulling out prematurely and briaging the goverment down. The Apancy
hent Lond the destrability of odlicy-level conversations with sultable
Chileans so that they would be aware cf the future political arrange-
meats United it is felt would be to the comson interests of Chile and
the Uaited States, the Group approved the recosmendation in paragraph

5 on page 7.

5, Pontnican Prpublic

The Croup noted thle paper. Cenoral Carter urged the Department
of State to continue to press the interim goverreent on the desirabilicy
of holding early electiona,

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6. Parrisa

Mr. Johnson said ther State covsurred in the general thrust of
this paper, but would Like to limte the continuation of the progras to
a three-conth period during which time it would ba reviewad in detail by
State end CIA. The Group approved the proposal with this revsarvation.

7, General Lemnitzar stated that Hg. McCone had called him and posed
\ a possible requtremeat for low-level photography of eritical Cuban
H targets, General leunftzer said that fren the mtlitary voint of view
{ this was feasible, utiliving etcther AP-1l0OL or FSU aircrafe flown by
i U.S. pllota from various bases or cerrfers in the Caribbean area. ths

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use of Cuban pilots would invelve a delny of some monthe due to the
preciae trafairg required, > Gener Cartes pulated out that we ere
sy oorooverfliphte in anv ease and thac the possibility

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Lests gaheaulid sat dissusde us fren making these flighes
Pecessary, ff was pointed Gat that other types of phota-
vousvtul fn pinpoineteas criticsi targets, dow. nat Rive:

etall for orectse tdenciitcaricn of vertrata tpes of equizp-
sone: discussion, the Group agreed to take cognizance of
ane renuested tnat to be Teoper. ¢ 8. an appropriate tine
Wrea specific targets and information neecs could be identified.

8, Tt was agreed that the Agency would present 6 paper concerning
Action Agatsat Narth Vietnam at next week's aeeting.
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General Taylor did not have an opportunity to review these minutes
prior to Ais departure,

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