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[7]30 June 10964
[9]_ MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
[11]“SUBJECT: Telefhone Conversation between AMBIDDY-1 and
[12]Martin Ferrer
[14]DATE : 30 June at 1100 hours |
[16]meet with him last night. At the meeting Oliva mentioned.
[18]to Awl that he (Oliva) was receiving the backing of..KUBARK.
[19]and the Pentagon and implied A~1 was-also receiving aid,
[20]Oliva stated that he has met with Alfredo Rodemeyer, the same
[22]''Rodemeyer that both of them had met early last ‘year, A-1
[23]replied this was all before the death of Kennedy ‘and he
[25]. RO longer had contact with any of ODYOKE's officials. ;
[27]. According to Oliva, Mr. Rodomeyer spoke badly of some of the
[28]personnel in A-l's organization, o.g., Antonio Iglesias, ._
[30]' Oliva mentioned that he had talked with Thomas Mann ~~ _
[31]recently and expected to seu Mr. Mann within the coming week
[32]to. receive cup ort. for hia conventional warfare program,
[34]-. fel told Oliva he had no objection to the conventional .
[35]" Warfare plan and that he would morally support Oliva in
[36]. ‘ddberating Cuba. However, he would continue in his own.
[37]_Little way with his unconventional war, According to A-1,
[38]ope made it clear to Oliva that he was not receiving ODYOKE
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[41]ve 2, Anl expects. to leave on 1 July for Costa Pica
[43]_ tomorrow. He again mentioned that Adolaide will econ 3x
[44]Jeaving the United States, A-1 commented ho. doos. not expect
[46]‘to visit the United Staten as often as he has. done in the
[48]past. Avi asked that Enrique and Mr, Archer clearly undor-
[50]Stand that ho does intend to keep his word concerning the
[52]_ @hanges he has montionad to us at the last. two meotings,
[54]-'* Abveve esaversaiion conducted
[55]“We prearranged trequentty Memes
[56]Ghenged privacy ende
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[63]a 7 “Upon Erneido Oliva's request, AMBIDDY-1 went to
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[80]3. A-l expressed a desire to mest with Mr. Archer
[81]somtime after the August. operations,
[83]Ret JM dale,
[85]WH/ SA/ SO/HH
[89]File:
[90]AMBIDDY-1 - 201
[91]* Conversations
[92]Oliva - 201
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[97]29 June 1964
[99]ADWORLD'S MEETING IM NEW ORLEANS, 24 Jun 1964
[100]SUBJECT: AMBIODY-1's Image and Philosophy
[102]4. ANBIDDY>1's prencespation ith his political image ;
[103]ehene thru, when he inquired whether we suspected hin of a
[104]életatorial leanings. “se replied; in effect, that we enter= ; . so
[105]- Gained such suspicions and inclined toward taking his proteste=
[107]-Cions ef: Liberalism end laisses faire with a heavy doe of
[108]“salt. Qase in powr, be would treat the 1940 as a scrap of | .
[109]and run the country along ‘autoritorian lines.  ¥lattered |
[110]CUTS Dice tarioeten an tos Lin of eeeeneiony ork wig
[112]voiced aild dissent, mo ae
[113]-  §, Comment, Considering: the exigencies of eutenasy | 1 yh.
[114]: which deny ue mush opportunity, let alone leverage in. shaping. Sof, {
[115]MBLOT-1's political philosophy, we. have. conveyed to.hia in a ;
[116]wastaty of ways that we. de. not: particalariy: care one way’ or
[118]the other, that. we do net fancy him: as a chosen inetrusent: outsids. |
[119]ghe perighery of A0600ELD and « that by extension © we. have: ne
[120]-fmtention of. presoting. any: political. aspirations he way
[121]Me have. aleo left, ne doubt in hie mind thst we view his per=
[122]_ Sevnense in, the AMMONLD. driver's saat vather than any philese=
[123]Coat iaipecteening ano pectin of otitis gauge of how...
[124]would be: perforsing ine position.of. policical: "responsibility.
[126]Be. ‘We petated cut. te ANTIDDY*1: that Liberation. Day would -
[128]fiat vere bankrupt aud exhausted peaple, wiary te death
[129]@2 politics aad prepagenda, evaving te be left alens fer a utate
[130]| $8 e@cives fte theughte. There would be re polities infrae
[132]etrusture. en which: to build end pronaturely called atary’ gleations
[133]would merely serve tc debure. the serrency. of par liassa
[135]Sraay oven nerec’ Pore bilo at lect, & becign ane Just anecesitill
[136]would have to vestera Cuba's eqvilibriua and perate her: te rebuild —
[137]the. fase! estione wiekest whieh. e donearacy ¢ commet feeeerly. Senstion.
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[142]Ta this contoxt, wo mentioned sentincnts expressed by Ax: 1
[143]on Venesuela TV deprecating largescale revenge during the re=
[145]' @0astruction phase and voiced hope that he would de his share ta
[146]wee these noble ideas put inte effest.
[148],, OCS Peliey
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[155]caveat
[156]29 June. 1964
[158]AMMORLD MEETING IN KEW OELEANS, 24 June. 1964
[160]SUBJECT: AdXaida PADRO™ y Crus - Decision to Move Her to.
[161]Ricaregua
[163]1. Drawing Mberally upon data supplied 1 in: UPOA 16512,
[164]we reminded AMBIDDY-1 about our misgivings regerding his
[165]@ascciation with Adelaide PADZON y Cruz. He conceded aware-
[166]Bess of some of the rumors circulating about her past private
[167]USfe end stated that be had setisfied himself that chey were
[169]' wmfounded. We injected that wo imew thar Jose Mole Rosales.
[171]has. becn asked to do some investigating and had given Adelaida
[173]Padron a clean bill of health. We also luppened te knew chat
[174]‘OLE was aware of the true s
[176]“hed decided to withhold it. from AMBIDDYe1. we faretiee bead .
[178]tory and for reasane of his ew
[180]Be kaaw cout senore MILE and be comentad thet = ake
[181]@ “bad women”. We observed thet the “had be: a
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[187]» vegarés Adelaide's alleged. tliseie relationshio
[189]aan @aePresident BATIST:, AMBIDDY-1 simply declared the charge
[191]eo ba unfounded. Adelaida: did’ Know Carlos: CANTILLG: Ganson
[193]"whe was am elé fried of the fanily, she aloo bad wot ex-Presi-
[195]Scat IEEE, but nothing Of « conpronising ucisre had ensued.
[197]aon When ached whether 4¢ tis. trus thet dlsletés hed tmtroe
[198]- Qseed Re te several preninent Venssusiens, he denied this end.
[199]‘ tated thas introésetions oe IOI hee CANT
[201]frieed of ANMTDOT=2.
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[208]3. Our query why Adelaida, if obe had AMBIDDY=1°%9°
[209]iatereste at heart, appeared to bave qualms about owning up
[211]in respect to pest events, was parried by AMBIDUY-1 by elaining —
[212]that Adelaide was of course aware of all these rusors: and had
[213]warned him of possible political embarraseaent, | _
[215]6. Evaluating UFGA 16512 on the basis of cur talk with
[216]AMBIDLY-1, we conclude that its main source has a high batting
[217]average. At least there appears to be « hard core of truth to
[218]practically all ullegations made, to the extent wo ware able
[219]tn check thee out. we would venture ths geese thar, despite :
[220]hia protestatiuns to the contrary, AMBEDDY+«l is eulte conversant
[222]_ With Adelaide's past history, but can see no Practical gain in —
[224]‘. €@ telling us. He may reason that an avowal of intent to. marry. ;
[225]@ wouan whose antecedents are in fact as deacribed, would seriously
[226]bleaish his image and that by pleading ignorance now he can, if.
[227]thinge should get out of control, always strike a poce of injured
[228]A&unocence and elicit 2 “here but for the Grace of God go. x" re-
[230], @ttion from his PBPRIME associates. OO
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[234]7. Agreenent that all interested ‘parties would. benefte: by: _
[235]@oving Adelaide's. abode from the WAVE area to Hicaragua was)
[236]Weached on the basis of AKBIDDY<1's acceptance of our flat state- :
[237]Want that wo view Adelaida as « potential hazerd to AMWORLD's and =
[238]RUBARK’s eoeurity. ‘ve based this Fecscning upon numsrous-indt=- .
[239]@ations that Adelaide had become all but completely privy to...
[240]@vexything that was going on in ‘AWGHORLD and that ber diacretton.
[241]- §efe @ great..deal to be desired, Ve drew no denial fron AMBIDDYe1
[242], , then stating that. Adelaide had becens witting: of. the WAVE: training
[243]Goutes for AMBIDDY*1 and that she presunably knew. about.RBARK: . a
[244]‘few an . We referred to Adalaida’s lechien ascociates, —
[245]without. stating that we cusposted her of holding charter nenbership
[246]fa that eererity. tc «sntioned by noms Alda PEREZ and Lucie CARO.
[247]When.the latter was labelled by us a lesbian believed te bein
[248]Adelaide's semluta e=nfidence, AMBIDDYoL evinced eurprics and |
[249]. few renseme dt fficule co fathen almest dismay, Wo coneluded by
[250]., Stweseing the importance of breaking up Adalaisa's eirele ef.
[251] Geecclates and confidante as an ‘indispensable preraqeisite. for
[252]containing the threat her accozs. te. ingormatizn. we consider |
[253]@laseified represents end asked ANBIDNT<i: te aasa eure that ue .
[254]menber of this gzcup would. follow her to igaraua. ;
[256]SEE