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[95]\ 5 duly Ltt
[97]Attengted AIS Fengtration of Bell welesbvas Laboratories ~ Ml 10G12
[99]1. Attached
[101]ear cv York Fiold Offiea centering
[103]ere two Beaorunda, dated 26 dime 1963, fros
[104]Rid interest
[106]epparaat
[107]fn Menfrod &, Behsoeder emi Dowsald 8, Thoms, fell Telephone
[108]Lebousterics, Marrey ill, Hew Joreay. bo belicove ihta informa-
[110]tion chould be prasad to the FO imaedifately.
[114]preciate baiag eGrised the date this information ie furwanted
[116]to the Dpresn,
[118]. 2 For your informtion, permiso{en to brief Dr, Schroeder _
[119]pricos to Bie trip to tio UBL vos requssted ty cur Rew York
[120]Offios tut rofeesd by FI Staff. Iv view of Ala explaguut, haw
[121]evar, ex psevicows Ca/0d eontscts with him, PI recamsndsd ba -
[122]be provided with a otsung Gcfensive end realities driefing.
[123]3. Posther togsity ay, te directed to ra. Shirley Stetson,
[124]ca/en, @ygert Pranch, 423, 1717 H Street, Ne U., extension
[126]q\* whey no wy
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[147]‘UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
[149]‘Memorandum
[151]To : «Cade, Contact Division DaTa: 1 July 1963
[152]Attn : Mc Connell/Czajkowski/Lincoln Staff
[154]FROM Culef, Whew Yor Office
[156]sugject: Attempted R.I.8, Penetration of Bell Telephone Labs
[158]. "=. Raft IE Reports 2988-3 and 2909-3
[160]1.
[161]Staff from ea Soviet realities standpoint.
[163]We thought the attached reports vould ve of interest to Lincoln:
[164]We also felt that they should
[166]be brought to the attention of Division management because the M.0. out-
[167]lined therein 1s becoming 6 mijor factor in dealing with sources who have ,
[169]contact with Sovbloc nationals.
[171]It bas been our expertence that the type
[173]of activity outlined has been on a mrked increase, particularly since
[175]the establighzent of the KOB 10th Directorate.
[177]Although such activity
[179]by Sov legals is taking place throughout the continental U.3., undoubtedly
[181]ite greatest impact is being felt in the New York and Washington, D.C.
[182]“areag because of the largn Soviet Government establishments in both of
[183]For this reason it would seem imperative that both WAFO
[184]and NYFO be extremely vigilant for such activity in companies and insti-
[185]tutions with which thoy are dealing in order that it my be recognized
[186]in ita earliest stages and appropriate CI/CE countermeasures instituted.
[187]In order to assist other offices in this respect, ve plan to write in the
[188]near future an article for the Division Newsletter, outlining some of our
[190]these cities.
[192]experiences along these lines.
[194]. 2. We were somewhat disappointed in CI Staff's reaction to our
[195]recent request for assistance in defensive briefing of the subject of
[196]one of the attached reports. It seeme to be quite clear now that our
[198]and that there is a strong likelikood that his current trip behind the
[199]Curtain will be utilized by the opposition for provocation or an
[200]actual recruitment attempt. We wonder in future cases of this nature
[201]exactly what support we may expect from Angleton's ahop. Although we
[202]“feel that we have a fair capability for handling such matters here in
[203]Bew York; we do admit that, at least on this one, we would have felt
[205]reason than to
[206]"old pros."
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[213]original assumption concerning his being R.1.8. targeted was quite correct
[215]slightly more comfortable. had a CI specialist been along, if for no other
[216]Freciude any possible Monday morning quarterbacking by the
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[233]Subject: Attempted R.I.S. Penetration of Bell Telephone Labs
[235]3. Judging by the attached mterial, it would appear that, despite
[236]established Beall ‘policy (see our 16 May memorandum re Case 39,790), the
[237]opposition bas seen fit to deflower at least two of Bell's sctentific
[238]virgins. We serfously wonder at this point just how many other Bell
[239]people. might. be in the same boat. Perhaps, as a result of all this,
[240]som representation by Bell management to the KGB will be forthcoming,
[241]spelling out..to that organization, as was spelled out to our om, estab=>
[242]lished company policy pertaining to such matters. In any event, it would
[243]. appear that at least one or two Bell scientists, and there are probably
[245]more, have been giving the R.I.8. more cooperation and reporting than the
[246]Agency. Let's hope that in the neor future Bell management takes some
[247]effective steps to rectify this rather ludicrous, and patently dangerous,
[248]situation.
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[253]Attacheents: NY Reports 2988-3
[254]and 2989-3
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[283]Attn 3 Support (Shirley Stetscn) Cod. ae -
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[290]stapes: Gomreat aIS Interest ln ‘uanfred oF ochre.
[291]11 Telephone Lau.
[294]13 Aid 1
[295]0930-1230 bours 1 Juuc, Manfred 4. Senrueder of Bell laos 1
[296]received a strons defensive briefing in eoneeetion with hile June- :
[297]July trip to the Ssh und suiguria (gee one 7 vay Coordination Out-
[298]line for subjeev)* During Sehrveder's briefing, Nagic elicited
[299]from him thkt prior to a trip to tae USGR in 1959 he hud been cen-
[300]tacted by an Individual. vho represented hingell se u West German
[302]Intelligence Officer.
[304]More important, we also learned that, ut i
[306]about the same tiue, RIS cultivation so;
[308]Echrocder apparently began.
[310]2. Concerning the West German approach,
[312]cearceder indleated
[314]“that hts mother, who resides in Hanbury, wa. vclephoned in 1950 by
[315]an individual whe cleised to be an old scqin.tnuance of her son's
[316]and who was interested in contacting hia concerning employment in
[317]the US. The caller left a phone uunee~ tnd said that he would ap-
[318]rreciate 1b if Senroeder could call hin nexe tine he was in Haaburyg.
[319]Schroeder's mother relayed the message vo itr con, and, os requested,
[320]he telephoned the caller just nrior to hls iy, UGSR junnct. The
[321]individua] he called identiried himself ar ¢ West Gerwan inte] Ligence
[322]Officer and said that he vould like to mes) othe rou.der aG coon as
[323]asible. Schroeder agreed. When they met, tac individual in question
[324]Schrocder doec not recali his name) presinted suitable ercduntiale
[325]and expressed interest in Senrocder's urlyp to ta: USSR. According to . ,
[326]Schroeder’ 8 account, the West German Invelligence Offlecr gave him the
[327]old “keep your cyes and «ars open’ pitch, and «.ld him that he would
[328]contact him in the iirst West German city in whieh he touched down
[329]after hia USSR trip. Schroeder was convscted in Stuttgart promptly
[330]after returning to Gersany from the US3u on his way puck to the US.
[331]Because of his US employment and the fact that Zell paid tor his trip,
[332]Schroeder became very upprehensive about any Vurther convact with the
[333]West Germun service and et che time of the call indlected that he nad
[334]nothing to cay and wanted no vurther contact. Giher lien the cuvsory
[335]examination of ¢redentials (us reported above), Gchrocder made no
[336]attempt to establish the vona fides of the Geivvin who meds whe approach.
[337]We pointed out to Schrveder the uiikely possitility tact the appreach
[338]might not have veen vone fide and might, In faucet, nave been a provo-
[339]cation.
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[361]tf. Apparently Qel.o. Malt vation of SMa eae. he 2
[362]Prior to the ateve lneident. Aecording te bis wether. ae haa
[363]ceived what aprcared te ve a routine ftavltavioa te wisct
[364]Acoustics “cilities ta Moseom wad Leawurad in ag.
[365]connectioa witi. the invite ti. Ayu Wrote. bo un. Save
[366]timt during his visit he w uid Line te met ve
[367]Sov acoustics engineer whe was very Onteres
[368]and had dume sever. Russian tran i iwlong of wan
[369]A result of this correspon te, Seance doy
[370]ut his hone @ couple of days prior te aie
[371]frum an Uidividiei who cle i
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[385]ol the ctat: Comaitter os
[386]caller, whose mua Sen eo ce:
[387]wike te delives cos Cowl
[389]Sehroeler indirva. 0 ts
[390]which he had to (0% in
[391]thor cowtdalt ox. ie:
[392]Lastrute! lone were t.
[393]Pinelly agreed te
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[404]Hoe wale ate
[408]Schroeder lavi wow “iM .
[409]the latter dec vwever, Ving thas s ioae
[411]An areé closed ta travel oy Sov lip. awatln pease. Tb
[412]the Sov arranged to tect sels. Carta whet 0) & sete Corner
[413]Chathaua, New Jersey, aac ab that tine thoi doves te her the
[414]Yor her husband.  *
[418]hk. Gchroraler said that his oj. ville te ths USAR wus quite
[419]routine and that &: end? recall nett out cote nobary hes ppen ings
[420]during the triv.e “Qeting the vilit, nis oov cou terpeart, “Saetluev, wie
[421]speaks fluent Geran, seted as Lis host aud was at his s™iS7 mist
[422]continually. a any .
[423]Ks8
[424]rearived i pe ist
[425]who Centiried
[429]5. Csonet Lia: tn bad dour rods
[430]‘ne evening from | #
[432]sentative of Amto? wen esid that o
[433]Purduev had just completed a vasit to ‘ew Xorg an
[434]eity had asied hir. to deliver a presunt tu Sehec:
[435]the pnone call. Yolgin insisted on doiivericeg th
[436]in person, and th: two wade arrangements to have 1:
[437]following week in Manhattan. ‘This began a oe
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[467]vr wore soucuets wlth Ve tal vidun Gabad noch late ugte when Guipraesde 3
[468]reeekived « nate frou Volwtin utating that ue and in. 5 Daath é
[469]nae woe + . “h
[470]ing to the USSR Li. order that nie wice could inte, uel Mt :
[471]. there. Incidentally, Schroeder's guly othur cuntact «it Porw ard Sta :
[472]‘ in 1y$S waen ne met im in Copehagen ot a profvessluiael tee Goape . ‘
[473]: et
[474]| 6. Schroeder said that wiet, Lf not alt, of Yolgon'ts phon: si %
[475]1 toe hia were to his lage and usually sppenrced te have bee ede fro a
[476]i pay phones. Sehrucder se‘d that ote cmetligs wita vorele inedode 3
[477]' lunches and dinners in Munhattan, wveblsibitiug at a lies T Ree '
[479]Meeting, thoutes, t:.) ontertatmaent os each other in sopoettye
[480]homes. Schroeder clalags that hla wile accomanted hin dasktg, nugat av : ;
[481]his contact with volyin. Other tia to nies mn faaliy, Volyii never :
[482]tntroduced Schroéde: to any other tustviduals. :
[484]shroeder cluima thab on ns vouple of cecuclous te tuned over ot
[485]2 technical Layers te Vo. ht, wie, raed be bean CLP ae ‘
[486]engineer. Schroedcr can't r-call wucther Volgin speetfheilly requisted
[488]the informtion or whether he turocd it over te trun ou ble own initiative. , ,
[489]At one polut during their relationship, Volgen enked Schroedas ta te ite ,
[490]an article on US acoustics work, for publfeution in a ooviet: USnAreE
[492]cette ements tee semmeeerne agen tin tyute sete theta tte nnenyeaered we evetqne sy mere te
[494]Journaly” Schoeder veclined. .
[495]3. In retrospect Schroeder admitted that he hid been quile ontve
[496]about his relationsntp with Volgin and expressed cuae concern that cel!
[497]security hadn't beer core autive ia ndanuishing hin cadnst devel yp-
[498]ment of relationchips with cov Gover cient peprewentnt Lure » Ws view ©
[499]of his experiences wo sompietely cotneldec with wis as a result of oy
[500]our discussion. ; 2
[501]i 9. Another. fector wuleh sbvioualy enters Lato Scuroeder's KIS, .
[502]: pictures tn alo wife's bulgarian estenction. dthrseder tales Ehat ;
[503]i neither he ner, te the best or hie unowlcdge, uic wis nave ever been 1
[504]approached by Suvblo> ‘representatives in thi. count ey concerning hic :
[506]wife's faally t. Pugaria, Iie wise 's mother, iwuntife Kensekik,
[507]dumigrated to the UO tn April la and Lived alth Senroeder tsi his L,
[508]wife until iovember 1(€2 when she returaed to Sola, upperently because
[510]she was homesick and couldn't niguct to the new language and life in
[512]the US. Sehroeder naid that hic motuer-ti-las's origianl exit vise
[514]request was rejected ta 1953 by tac Hal garian Gevernmeut, but after he
[516]‘and his wife wrote severe: ietters to the Bulgurian Foreign Miasotry
[517]v
[519]she was finally granted permission to leave in 1360. ,
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[536]Subject: Apparent RIS Interest in Manfred R. Schroeder,
[537]: - Bell Telephone Labs
[539]10. Arter Sohrveder visits the USSR on his current trip, he . -
[540]- splans to fly to Sofia to spend approximately a week with hie wife's
[541]‘family there. Schroeder had not mentioned the Bulgarian visit in
[542]outlining his original itinerary to Bob Martin of this office, there-
[543]fore, it vase not mentioned in Schroeder's Coordination Outline.
[545]11. All of the above would seém to indicate quite strongly that
[547]' Schroeder, ag we originally surmised, has been targeted by R.I.3. In-
[549]briefing Schroeder, we ran through some of the typical entrapment
[551]situations fabricated by the opposition, e.g., women, homosexuals,
[553]: purchase of drugs for Sov citizens, black mrket activity, acceptance
[554]of letters to mail outside the USSR, commitments to disaffected Sova,
[555]etc. In addition, we stringently admonished Schroeder againat any
[556]notetaking or photography which could in any way be construed as com-
[558]. promising. We also alerted Schroeder to the fact that some attempt
[560]‘ might be made to use his - Jife! 6 family as leverage in a recruitment
[562]attempt. In this connection, we pointed out to Schroeder that there
[563]was a strong likelihood that the R.I.S. and/or Bulgarian service would
[564]make an approach to him during his forthcoming visit to Sofia. An
[565]approach in Bulgaria would give the Sove an opportunity for disavowal
[567]. and also would provide the proper setting for maximum utilization of
[569]* relatives. When Schroeder mentioned that his sister-in-law, FNU
[570]Monsckik, had indicated several times in the past that she would like
[571]to leave Bulgaria, we strongly admonished him against making any com-
[572]mitments to her, pointing out that she may poosibly be co-opted by
[573]the opposition. We told Schroeder that any representations to gain
[574]an-exit visa for his sister-in-law should be channeled through the
[575]US Legation in Sofin, Schroeder was told that, if any pressure were
[576]applied concerning his vife's family, his best reaction would probably
[577]be a noncommittal, "I'll think it over when I get home?" All] in ala,
[578]we alerted Schroeder as dest we could to the opposition M.0. and pre-
[579]pared him on how best to avoid some of the not so obvious pitfalls
[581]which might be in store for hin.
[583]12. Prior to our briefing of Schroeder, Bob Martin alerted Bell
[584]management to all of the ramifications of Schroeder's travel behind
[585]the Curtain. The management vas informed by Martin that we felt it
[586]our obligation to point out to them the strong possibility that Schroeder
[587]had been targeted in order that they would have all of the facts avail-
[589]able before signing off on his trip.
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[600]Bubject: Apparent RIS Interest in Manfred R. Schroeder,
[601]oe Bell Telephone Labs
[603]: . - 13., Assesament of Schrueder: Subject, a very accomplished
[604]i : ectentisat, heads up ali acoustics research at Bell. He reads -
[605]. ‘Russian and is fluent in German, French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch,
[606]and Bogiish. He impresses us as being a rather savvy, discreet,
[607]we cooperative, mature, stable, well motivated individual. We attri-
[608]to bute Schroeder's apparent lack of discretion in his dealings with
[609]: the Bove more to the subtlety of the Sov approach than to his own
[610]H paivete. It has been our experience that most US businessmen and
[611]: can scientists are very ausceptibina and vulnerable to the opposition
[612]: " approach mainly due to somewhat of a lack of realistic public
[613]e@ucation. concerning contacts with Sovbloc nationals. We feel
[614]that ‘Bchroedar's degree of cooyerativeness with US services has
[615]: been enhanced considerably by his feeling that he haa really been
[616]1 taken for a ride by the opposition.
[618]Incidentally, when we asked subject for permission to release this
[619]information with source disclosure to the FBI, he was at firet some-
[620]what epprehensive and expressed the desire to talk it over with one
[621]of bis Bell superiors before he mide any commitments. He finally
[622]: agreed, however, when We convinced him that it would certainly be in
[623]{ his best interest to get on record vith the FBI as soon as possible.
[624]: ' Yost of his apprehension about the FBI seemed to be attributable to
[625]the fact that he has just been granted US citizenship and, in addition,
[626]is now somevhat concerned that bie activities with the Sova in som
[627]way ony effect hia security status which in turn could be very detri-
[628]mental to his career.
[630]: Based on our limited contact with Schroeder, we have every reason to
[631]t believe that he would be suitable for operational use, should the
[632]Bureau choose to pursue such a course.
[634]i 14. We would strongly recommend that all of the above be passed
[635]. to the Bureau ADAP in order that that organization may effect contact
[637]with Schroeder snd provide him vith proper guidance concerning any
[638]further approaches by Sov or Bloc nationale in this country.
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[666]oecoe 19 May. to w)l spend trd woetis viaiting lave
[667]1 tu Musow asd Lonigred a4 the invitesion of D. Ovisutast,
[668]Deputy Gairvan, State wesdittee fur Coondinatloe uf
[669]. BScreotifie Resenrc?.- Li Che ly tay arrival date fa wot
[671]ecceytable to the sovlets, ach joss vill mame the trip la
[672]Sums or July.
[674]6. tances for Sxta! Dering Hevenber 1960, valle ta Burepe, rab Juet
[676]ved ea invitetion frea tee UGGR Aenéery of Seleces
[677]to viett various vevics agoustic leboretcrias. Secnuse
[678]Of @ CAG echedule ad tha Bias eject aoaline! the
[679]tovitutics. Ia enrly Mareh of tnis poar oe received the
[680]lovitation fros Orishient maationed above.
[682]{Durie ale trip, guoject will aiseuas with Soviet easter.
[683]parts various asprote af voiee commmiusticag research,
[684]tleetruesoustios, aud araritectural ascustics. fe wiil
[685]ale visit Soviet laboratarics Lavalved in researct .
[686]these flolds,
[688]i Ue § 1 Bubject was pranted Secret alcaseons hy Kidd stown
[690]: ; eatertal Commad $0 duly 1736 in antictpnation of hie
[692]: being used on elseeified project at Boll Lebonsturies,
[693]Alisa name ezeck oa sebjoot ponding.
[695]Ta 1959 exbject waa compacted twice
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[746]Memorandum SENSITIVE
[747]two : Chief, Contact Division DATR: 26 June 1963
[748]Attn : Support (Shirley Stetson) 00-A- BIOb6IFTIZ
[750]KOM Chief, New York Office
[752](Ni - 29553)
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[756]Pee TG $dipparent RIS Interest in Donald £. Thomas,
[757]Bell Laboratories Sr ne tenner eae tee TT °
[759]Sctewhst ls .
[760]RAT VAIS i
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[763]1. During routine debriefing cf Donald E. Thomas of Bell Labora- |
[765]tories in connection with his recent USBR visit to attend the Popov ,
[767]Boctety Meeting, 5-14 May, Moscow (see NYOR 8878 for Coordination Out-
[769]line)# subject mentioned having had recent contact with a Soviet dovern-
[771]meant representative in this country. The Soviet in question identified
[773](-himself to Thomas as Gleb Aleksf-Pavlov and gave his address aa
[775]. First Avenuc, Manhat yy
[777]2. Acchrding to Thomas, his initial contact with Pavlov took
[779]Place in late March following the International Convention and Bhow
[781]“of the I.3.E.E., 25-29 March, New York City (see Case 39843). At the :
[783]’ convention Thomas became friendly with two Soviet counterparts in
[785]. attendance, A. V. Tiel and Anatole Trutka, both of whom Thomas invited
[787]: to hia home for a social visit during ir US stay. When the Sovs
[788]dayerted for"home following the convention, Thomas saw them off at New
[790]‘ York International Airport. It was at the airport that he first met
[791]Pavlov, who apparently was seeing off all of the Sov I.E.E.E. delegates.
[792]After the Sov delegation had departed, Thouns and Pavlov returned to
[793]Manhattan together and, on parting, exchanged addresses, .
[795]3. A couple of weeks after their initial meeting, Pavlov tele-
[796]phoned Thomas at his home and :told him that T4el and Trutka had asked
[797]him to send their warmest regards to Thoms and thank him for the
[798]honpitality which he ehoved them during their trip to this country.
[799]During the conversation, Pavlov expressed an interest in renewing his
[800]acquaintance with Thomas, and suggested that he would enjoy visiting
[801]him at his home in Madison, New Jersey. Thomas said that he would
[802]enjoy seeing Pavlov, but that he was currently preparing to leave on
[803]a trip to the USSR and Hurope and was not scheduled to return to the
[804]US until late May. Thomas suggested that, in view of this, perhaps
[805]early June would be a good time for them to plan on getting together.
[806]Pavlov replied that he, himself would be in the USSR then, but would
[807]contact Thoma when he returned in early July: Incidentally, Pavlov's
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[828]Subject: Apparent RIS Interest in Donald £. Thomas,
[829]Bell Laboratories
[831]phone call to Thaaas vap made on a pay phone. In fact, when the opera-
[833]“tor cut’ 1a for overtime, Thomas called Pavlov back at the pay phone.
[835]Thomas mentioned that he _Poseibly might have the phone number written
[837]4. after the phone call from Pavlov, Thomas called John
[838]McVicker Of the State Department and inguired if any clearance of
[839]Pavlov's proposed trip to his home in Madison would be necessary.
[840]McVicker told Thoewas that any euch clearances were Pavlov's worry
[841]and that he need not be concerned about. same,
[843]3. During Ais recent trip to the USSR, it would appear that
[844]Thomas was exposed to two incidents vhich possibly could have been
[845]of opposition fabrication. One involved an approach by a Soviet
[846]interpreter by the name of FU Petrov, who took Thomas aside and
[847]asked him if he could do him a personal favor by getting him a sub-
[848]scription to National Geograpsic Magazine for which he, Petrov, would
[850]reimburse Thomas in rubles. Thomas politely refused. ft oseetey $30
[853]6. The other incident jrvolved Tams beng tented with:
[855]attractive young female Interpreter, Ludmilla Oshkina. According
[856]to Thomas, when one of the Soviets in their party was about to take
[857]4@ picture of hia standing next to Ludmilla, another individual stand-
[858]ing nearby was pushed cut of the way apparently so that he would not
[859]be included in the photograph. In addition, Ludmilla attempted to.
[860]strike an affectionate pose with Thoms for the photograph by slipping
[861]her arm through his. Thomas claims to have pushed her arm away dust
[863]as the photo was being snapped.
[865]7. Assesament of Thomas: Subject strikes us as being extremely
[866]naive and unrealistic. He appears to be more apprehensive about his
[867]dealings with CIA than his dealings with Soviets. In fact, when Thomas
[868]was asked 1f he would mind if a tape recorder were weed for debriefing,
[869]he became very nervous and expressed a fear that, if such a tape vere
[871](made, perhaps the Soviets might gain access to it and use it against
[872]him in some way at a future date. :
[874]Thomas had an outline in his own handwriting of the sessions of the |
[875]Popov Society Meeting. When we asked for a photostat of same, he .
[876]again expressed misgivings and indicated that he would prefer to have
[877]a typewritten copy prepared for us instead of a copy in his own hand-
[878]writing because he was fearful that it might fall into Soviet hands. .
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[889]Subject: Apparent RIS Interest in Donald &. Thomas,
[890]Bell Laboratories
[892]We inquired of Thomas why he had not mentioned Pavlov to us during our
[893]@efensive briefing of him before his trip. He replied rather nebulously
[894]that it was his understanding that it was company policy that our only
[895]function in seeing him before hts trip wae to give him a defensive brief-
[896]ing, and that, since no debriefing was involved at the time, he felt no
[897]‘obligation to volunteer the information concerning Pavlov.
[899]It 1a our opinion that Thowas's obvious naivite, apparent lack of sophisti-
[900]eation, and. extreme apprehension concerning dealings with our Agency would
[901]make him most unsuitable from the standpoint of operational utilization
[903]dy the Bureau. —- :
[905]8. We would strongly reccamend that all of the above be passed to
[906]the Bureau ASAP in order that that organization may effect contact with
[907]Thomas in time to provide him with proper guidance concerning any further
[908]approaches by Pavlov or other Sov legals in US. oy
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[935]Presiéens'a Intelligaces Board.
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[941]do: . Taine Stjest departs US 3 my for Mocsev to attend
[943]: Popov Guefety mseting, S34 May. Following Nocoow aesting
[944]: : Be will visit lsbe in Wostera Burupe for aygroninately ene
[946]Weetss
[947]6 tioaton ond reason fer tins Bdjest vas inviesd to give
[948]Pee at Popov weoting by VES Aeckety of Goisnces via
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[996]Stuttgart, West Cernany.
[998]2. While at this Congress I met a Soviet female aecientist, L Chiatovich,
[999]who is eonnectad with the Pavlov Inatitute of Phystology, Leningrad. -
[1000]One day during the Congress I took a walk in the Hlack Forest with
[1001]L Caistovich and another Soviet scientist. After a short tine, the
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[1020]ho had heard vhile in the USSK that. L Chistovich, on her return from x. ’
[1021]the 1959 Stuttgart Congress, had been placed unler house arrest. He a
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