[1]157-10008-10246 2025 RELEASE UNDER THE PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY ASSASSINATION RECORDS ACT OF 1992
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[10]AGENCY INFORMATION
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[18]AGENCY FILE NUMBER : R560A
[20]DOCUMENT INFORMATION
[22]ORIGINATOR : SSCIA
[23]FROM :
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[26]TITLE :
[27]INTERVIEW AND MEETING SUMMARY
[29]DATE : 07/25/75
[30]PAGES : 3
[32]SUBJECTS :
[33]INTERVIEW WITH DAVID, PAUL (ALIAS).
[34]~) SUBJ: ASSASSINATION INQUIRY
[36]DOCUMENT TYPE : PAPER, TEXTUAL DOCUMENT
[37]CLASSIFICATION : T
[38]RESTRICTIONS : REFERRED
[39]CURRENT STATUS : P
[40]DATE OF, LAST REVIEW : 10/07/93
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[44]COMMENTS :
[45]BOX 438-12
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[63]) INTERVIEW WITH: Paul David (alias) .
[64]Ssci °° 438-12
[65]REGARDING: _______ Assassination Inquiry 00 nee, UL
[66]DATET IME“LOCAT ION: July 25, 1975; 608 Carroll Arms
[67]PRESENT: Messrs. WALLACH and biGenova RY
[69]HAS OR SHOULD BE DIGESTED:
[71]FOLLOW UP REQUIRED:
[73]MATERIAL SUBMITTED BY INTERVIEWEE(S):
[75]EXECUTIVE session: Yes __to
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[81]This morning, Joe and I met with Paul David
[82]("P.D.") at the Carroll Arms for approximately
[83]two hours. George Clarke from the CIA's General
[84]Counsel's staff was present for the last fifteen
[85]minutes of the interview.
[87]Background:
[88]~ - ; hE og ‘ FRSE Seah. —
[89]1948 51 5 Besastant to tHiegeneteotsstacion
[90]1951-54 ~ Chief Rumanian Desk
[91]1954-58 - Chief of Operations Against Communist
[93]wis Areas (Eastern Bloc) - (Operations from
[94]@orseh~ stationed in G
[96]1958-61 ~ AGhuls HES Pathiom “s-1G
[98]1961-62 - Special Assistant to Helms
[100]1962-63 - National War College (June 1962 -
[101]July 1963)
[103]1963-64 - Helms! Special. Assistant ~
[105]1965-66 - UC SaaS: an jlicme 7 ~C
[107]1966-69 - Gh: aii t2-z|
[109]1969-73 - Services -
[110]Chief of Staff in DDP. (Director
[111]Clandestine Services)
[113]1973 - Chief Career Management Personnel
[115]1973-74 - Chief Plans & Programs for Directorate
[117]Interview Summary:
[119]Bissell “out of the blue" asked P.D. to read
[120]and comment upon Zoogby's Cuban operations paper.
[121]P.D. told Bissell that the paper/proposals "stunk"
[122]{. . . "much like another Bay of Pigs"). Appar-
[123]ently, Helms also read and liked P.D.'s comments.
[124]After Bissell "left", Helms requested that P.D.
[125]come on board as his staff assistant.
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[129]P.D. stressed that he was not in the opera-
[130]tional line of command ~~ "I provided an interface
[131]for intelligence information." A typical day in
[132]P.D.'s life:
[134]~~ Screening cable traffic (7 - 9 a.m.)}.
[135]Primarily cables relating to positive in-
[136]telligence, to prepare Helms for his. daily
[137]°9 a.m. hour-long meeting with DCI McCone.
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[141]CIA HAS NO OBJECTION To
[143]BECLASSIFICATION AND/OR
[144]RELEASE reg DOCUMENT
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[149]SUSE:
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[152]< - INTERVIEW AND MEBTING ey
[154]ai SEGRE
[156]~~ Prepared a daily briefing for the White
[157]House on Cuban intelligence.
[159]~~ Preparing review of books such as "The
[160]Invisible Government" and damage reports
[161]{i.e., reports setting forth what sensitive
[162]information exposed by book).
[164]P.D. stressed that he was "out of touch with the
[165]day-to-day operations 9f Task Force W". However,
[166]he believes that Harvey kept Helms fully briefed.
[168]Harvey, in P.D.'s own words, was "not an
[169]ordinary man", .. . “egocentric”, "bombastic"
[170]"one of the strongest proponents of compartmentali-
[171]zation and need to know”. In addition, Harvey had
[172]a law degree and a successful FBI stint prior to
[173]joining the Agency.
[175]Harvey had a thyroid problem. As one of the
[177]"CIA's most intéresting characters", Harvey was
[178]often talked about} P.D. has difficulty separating
[179]personal experience from rumors. Describing
[181]“) Harvey as a "four martini man at lunch”...
[183]reer which, coupled with Harvey's thyroid medicine,
[184]caused Harvey to be sleepy, etc., after lunch. In
[185]fact, P.D. told us that this was the “last straw"
[186]in McCone's eyes; i.e., apparently when McCone
[187]called Harvey in to "discuss" the Kennedys’ com-
[188]plaints about Harvey's utterings, it was immediately
[189]after lunch and Harvey either fell asleep or failed
[190]to pay attention. ("McCone did not have an audience."}
[191]P.D. added that there was general “bad chemistry"
[192]between McCone and Harvey.
[194]P.D. noted Harvey's intense loyalty to "his people"
[195](including Helms and Geserey)s However, P.D.
[197]is sure that even with these people, Harvey was
[198]likely to have been extremely close-mouthed.
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