stephen hansen tamubzlgbagmailcom imho main system without package manager windows afaict macos platform also lacks area actually windows cygwin rpmbased macos fink debbased macports freebsd portslike netbsds pkgsrc viable options want packaging support 3rdparty packages er excuse cutting thats thing people using red derivative debian derivative whatever package manager isnt something go way add struggle simply world works large measure everything want managed package management system users understand well dont want python package management system second system deal im sorry world bigger linux things im mac user extensive experience linux mac fink macports added top macosx even remotely comparable using operating system standard package manager part every users daily life operating system unixy comes preinstalled number things including python wxwidgets sqlite many things make programs make customers easy use products available standard mac customers left options install something like fink macports come issues wanting install version python version third party things top whats already alternative users install manually thirdparty requirements ive found general far easier download install stuff manually rely addon package managers least im thinking providing minimally least intrusive possible experience users install product power users especially familiar linux world may relish existence macports fink regular people even managers companies deal love easy_installsetuptools lets get python applications products people regardless os way works think valuable way integrate native package managers operating systems native integrated part say lets recreate apt sorrowful stance saying screw windows isnt good screw mac good even screw people arent power users going able go effort adding nonstandard package management system operating system theres whole wide world simply package management system python beautiful making python programs blissful id far far concerned making easy distribute pythonbased programs operating system would concerned partially redoing minority systems done make package management dependencies easy users python crossplatform development environment lets forget people dont linux dont equally blissful world apt rpm available natively cool integrate make way rpm deb distributors deliver app way satisfy needs people without native capability pythononly distributionmanagement system like easy_install huge boon getting real products real people think pjes idea good include certain files rpmdeb satisfy pythonpackagemanagement system rpmdeb users oss database packages irrelevant largely theyll still keep using system product needs something without deb rpm someones operating system without native system still gather everything need anyways 2 cents stephen thu 07 aug 2008 054434 0700 pythondev easily consume parts eggs good