pagaltzis passdelwxgmxde linda w 20071026 0935 ie im firmly opinion foo return undef execution time foo defined ie foo doesnt exist value foo exactly correct looking foocode return undef sub exists wont helpfully conjure stub place perl l print foocode print before2 foocode print test foo print foocode before2 test code0x8130c78 code0x8130c78 go fix buggy code stop blaming perl behaving exactly designed documented decade better worse perl autovivifies many cases ever since conceived sometimes thats pain changing linda w 20071026 2110 see usefulness autovivification function failure imagination part fault perl hand strongly suspect one encounter im first person decided work around buggy code like everyone else 11943 ah yes first person noticed bug since 1993 sure find bug big enough drive truck promptly crashed truck right pile documentation ignoring behavior experienced perlcoders knew instinctively way work around indicates knew code around buggy area none able tell part code incorrect explain exactly either incapable unwilling understand might well speaking foreign language keep telling hear bloo blah wurrr buzzz ps see also 11944 11907 11917 11905 11956 11958 regards aristotle pagaltzis thu 07 aug 2008 110328 0100 broken perl ooparentmethod call