zooko kakltzookocom mar 26 2008 734 pm chris mcdonough wrote zooko wrote httpmailpythonorgpipermailpythondev2008march078243html simple proposal make standard python import mechanism notice eggs pythonpath insert location syspath eliminates 1 problem eggs dont easily work installing places site packages allow installed system take precedence nonegg packages even explicitly put packages earlier pythonpath latter behavior disagreeable prorgammers sorry im loop theres subtlety im disregarding doesnt appear either issues mention actually problem eggs instead problems eggs get installed easy_install uses pth file extend syspath reasonable put eggs pythonpath manually eg syspathappendpathtosomeegg instead using easy_install install yes missing something many programmers lennart regebro posted thread find current eggs system perfectly convenient work many others glyph lefkowitz posted related thread find annoying actively ensure eggs ever allowed touch system reasons latter problem two 1 cant conveniently install eggs nonsystem directory mypythonstuff 2 allow even single egg installed pythonpath change semantics pythonpath problems directly caused need eggs hack sitepy python automatically added eggs found pythonpath syspath problems would go away skeptical current proposals define new database installed packages fare better current eggs scheme respect issue important benefits eggs grow superlinearly number good programmers use tool reusing source code tool cooperation programmers gain greatest benefits point need add new features eggs need make palatable good programmers skeptical prorgammers going willing use new database format already database filesystem already tools control mv rm pythonpath many already hate existence easy_instlalpth database file dont see new database file would different proposal makes current benefits eggs clean easy code use among programmers compatible current tools mv rm pythonpath also forwardcompatible sophisticated proposals add features like uninstall operating system integration way since posted proposal two weeks ago pointed couple python hackers currently refuse use eggs url httpmailpythonorgpipermailpythondev2008march078243html agreed made perfect sense told one alternate proposal define new database file contain list installed packages sighed rolled eyes said planning reinvent apt regards zooko _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom thu 07 aug 2008 034525 0700 pythondev easily consume parts eggs good