phillip j eby moetelecommunitycom 0231 3222008 0100 martin v löwis wrote im making assumption authors pep 262 good reason including rather assuming start entire process scratch objections pep remain though requirements says need without saying need goes saying want rephrased duplicate apt rpm without saying want brings us closer need iow pep lacking rationale ok well rationale make possible get rid eggs mechanism supporting easy_install many people included criticized eggs installation mechanism alternative gets rid egg files directories case need pth file usage well chance infrastructure developed actually helps tools would reasonable goal imo yes im course primarily interested pythonspecific tools virtualenv easy_install buildout asyetunwritten uninstallers package listers etc usefully read write data however im extremely skeptical ever succeed degree whoever provides rpms debs msi files actually use data find data incomplete redo anyway data isnt use meet use cases provide python tools dont stomp uninstall otherwise interfere files installed system words system packagers communication system python rather way around even though distutils build file bdist system packaging tools would free generate file listing signatures also envision objective pep 262 ie provide database installed packages installdb directory relative given syspath directory yes installing distutils distribution directory would result file added installdb within directory assuming use proposed implementation model pep 262 moment dont see substantial obstacle said ill happy get distutils abide spec 26 even means dont get uninstall tool always installed later using guidos bootstrap tool im even skeptical assumption package database allows uninstallation im 1 iow rpm deb msi write package database also write different database scope pep uninstallation use probably brought fact think mentioned previous thread would like see pep 262 add way say systeminstalled package dont touch idea job native packaging system rather ensure pythonspecific tools eg easy_install friends interfere conflict big problem early development easy_install even using eggs way tell whether safe delete overwrite existing file directory already installed system mechanism like would allow tools like easy_install say oh system packager conflicting package need use tool sort really want something im going touch without something like way tell difference many systems system package something user put sudo python setuppy install _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 152643 0400 pythondev get rid eggs 26 beyond