nick coghlan uytankmfgmailcom anthony tolle wrote thu mar 6 2008 1159 pm guido van rossum wrote would mind giving executive summary argument doesnt require scanning 40 lines code let put way unbound methods gone good think would nice develop guidance checking signature callable objects enable decorators play nice otherespecially intend modify argument list shortshort version pje already summarised underlying problem functoolspartial style functionality doesnt always play well methods first argument may need special handling __get__ invoked theres always easy way tell case removal unbound methods py3k theres longer reliable way tell difference unbound method static method functoolspartial actually ducks issue entirely always creating object behaves like static method __get__ method acts like class attribute rather trying act descriptor downside cant use wrap unbound method since want insert later supplied self argument positional args rather descriptor wrapping actually quite complicated topic think original poster valid complaint im sure restoring unbound methods right answer unfortunately dont better answer offer cheers nick nick coghlan uytankmfgmailcom brisbane australia httpwwwboredomandlazinessorg _______________________________________________ python3000 mailing list smsbmo9552pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopython3000 unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspython3000python300040tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 152238 1000 python3000 case unbound methods