aaron kulkis cmiqlkx91hotpopcom neil wrote neil please put blank lines text visually separate text message replying way blank lines makes things unnecessarily difficult everyone else read feb 18 2008 741 pm per jessen wrote randall r schulz wrote yes problem specific objection going continue feign incredulity heres list objections article wrote jan2006 web forums also absolutely loathe webforums talk enhancing point failure reinventing wheel ever wrong newsgroups mailinglists 5 top reasons hate webforums 1 essentially inferior utterly superfluous reinvention existing internet communication means newsgroups aka usenet may inferior cases webbased need separate software read forums school internet cafe holiday problemthis case usenet usenet software actually ubiquitous browser software nntp network news transport protocol slight modification smtp newsreaders typically dozen kilobytes size present machines run without gui 2 theyre webbased interface changes every time change forum add entirely superfluous graphics icons become slow unwieldy mention reload entire damned webpage see one new message youll never see dont go back thread specifically look someone adds comment thread hasnt visited week chances nobody read layout result admins choices true choices good result good even phpbbs let user pick css drop menu css build full posibilties therefore full layout think admin opensuse mailing list would competent enough prevent superfluous graphics 3 following multiple separate forums cant done one screen true matter course matters hinders communication simply open 2 browser windows place neatly next 1 screen fact even would want filter mails different mailing lists folder placed automatically even mail programs see new mail routed folders makes possible monitor dozen mailing lists ease 4 proper threading forums selective quoting best cumbersome proper threading kind forum thinking know forums dont message posted reply message displayed directly beneath theyre net cant believe youve never seen atrocities 5 usually require login downright silly dont log check mail forums readable without logging sending allowed want login dozens different web sites write reply postings reasons always still convinced youd like sufficient one argument halfmerit software solved onetime investment time needed install news reader thats assuming guibased mail reader doesnt already newsreader itwhich contrast forums require constant overhead delays several seconds lots pointless large html page loads even without stupid graphics icons one reason forum instead usenet linux must try access main public main public know work forums know work usenet usenet history would stored made available google search already whole thing archived going back late 1980s wed 06 aug 2008 145651 0500 opensuse true news group