john p looney valentuathaorg tue aug 13 2002 015906pm 0200 david neary mentioned tried gconfeditor gui frontend gconf settings metacity settings handled gconf like good gnome2 apps hmm even worse using text editor file true theres designated metacity configurator whole point metacity reasonable defaults thus get away need settings altogether window manager way many dont buy shiftalts start shell altd maximise window vertically altq close window altw shade ive used eight years im change stuff like alt1 go workspace1 love appeared windowmaker six years back ive also gotten used sawfish issue idea sorry sure gnome2s panel handles 14 applets wierdly ive gone back sawfish gnome 14 keybindings still dont work fair kate irish linux users group iluglinuxie httpwwwlinuxiemailmanlistinfoilug unsubscription information list maintainer listmasterlinuxie tue 13 aug 2002 131030 0100 ilug gargnome sawfish