harald alvestrand haraldalvestrandno julian reschke wrote well theres definitively total disconnect iesg recommendation w3c tags point view see ongoing discussion tag mailing list xri scheme would good organizations could come consistent answers new uri scheme defined needs state identifies resolved identifies http resource resolution done via http seems dont need note totally disagree detest abhor condemn idea thing http resource uri identifies resource one possibility accessing resource using http uri scheme http implication definer uri regarded normal way accessing resource whether resource static dynamic changeable matter strictly control manager server identified hostname uri certain usages http particular use http urls xml schemas tended denigrate implication say regard identifier still usage prevalent enough people complained servers identified popular xml schemas getting hit enough extra traffic cause operational problems many resources accessed http many many cases guarantees given different mid uri means find copy message messageid probably message tag uri means someone intended uri unique reference figure given enough time effort havent even mentioned urns yet wg needs clear kinds resources identifying properties wants embed part uri scheme usually features warts http wont answer dont speak anyone based julians comments stand iesg advice one think w3c tag recommendation reported correctly weeds harald _______________________________________________ ietf mailing list ietfietforg httpswwwietforgmailmanlistinfoietf thu 07 aug 2008 045802 0400 new schemes vs recycling http past lc comments draftietfgeoprivhttplocationdelivery08