dave long wkzsgmzpbluewinch kind standing making mind standing voting feet one option live somewhere thats playing around versions freedom democracy stuff since 1291 comparison 1776 contingent seems generally moving towards less oligarchy related eye opener came 10 years ago moved oregon voter based referenduminitiatives mail ballots seemed nice step come know back nyc used lethargic pace alternated silly seasons stateside political process seems swiss less always voting something think continuous development opposed waterfall analogy carries development politics system would appear merit referenda initiatives popular sic initiatives particularly interesting process right initiative received enough support government gets propose alternative everybody votes original popular initiative b governments presumably implementable proposal commonly c nota aint broke far lesser two evils goes nzz plotted national assembly leftright scale 1d sorry libertarians recently pleasant surprise see swiss handwringing polarized politics becoming actually trimodal distribution clump left clump right nice clump still middle distributed among 5 main parties good number minor ones dave know youve switzerland long dont get upset us politics theyre american ok maybe havent quite long enough one yet thu 07 aug 2008 095116 0100 fork interesting video hillary