stanley klein bxzbtycpcugorg development done linux use windows minimally tax preparation unless forced specific circumstances submittal grantsgov expose windows internet future may possibly arise need us port linuxdeveloped python code windows cross bridge get think raise interesting issue package manager minimal experience installing packages windows last 510 years experience windows package comes executable run installs unless thirdparty program monitors installation uninstalling nasty chore finding files installed went rpm deb package managers yum higher level dependency managers lot things 1 install packages maintain databases packages installed 2 manage dependencies 3 support clean uninstalling packages 4 query packages installed via databases yet installed eg rpm deb files determine attributes files install dependencies information defined packaging time 5 build packages cases rebuild packages 6 verify packages integrity security purposes 7 download package files maintain archives installed package files use local repositories may functions topofthehead list say im terribly happy python packaging minimally compatible rpm havent used ubuntu much like ubuntus packaging package management know programs alias translate rpm deb formats dont think ever said windows broken area package management experience files windows programs tend put directory devoted program rather put directories files similar purposes one time default location windows word processing files even subdirectory word processing program changed form user home directory didnt change much program files unixlinux puts files specific areas file system functional commonality one could almost say windows default approach structuring filesystem avoids minimizes need package management repeat issue mainly arises windows doesnt kind filesystem structure therefore need package management systems dont know windows addremove programs function might run executable install packages record installation previously done third party programs facilitate clean removal unless perform functions listed doubt would call addremove package manager stan klein wed april 9 2008 123 pm paul moore wrote 09042008 stanley klein wrote imho main system without package manager windows reasonable way deal windows would create package manager could used python anyone else wanted use package manager could establish file hierarchy similar unix fhs install files appropriately except needed satisfy windows os would probably go long way addressing issues discussed primarily windows problem python problem windows package manager addremove programs application extremely limited doesnt make attempt dependency resolution certainly thats separate issue dont know use windows develop programs using python windows id interested views bdist_wininst bdist_msi installers fit setuptoolsegg environment particularly regard package manager proposing dont use windows dont see usefully comment personally ive said dont problem pythononly package manager long replaces integrates bdist_wininst bdist_msi two package managers far worse none claiming addremove programs isnt package manager ignoring reality isnt bdist_wininst bdist_msi exist linux users happy python package manager ignores rpmapt windows users happier sorry im feeling little grumpy ive read one many windows broken people use obviously dont care things right postings week paul _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom fri 25 jul 2008 152650 0400 pythondev distutils easily consume parts eggs good