timonecomcastnet tim peters tim another area potentially fruitful study clear highestvalue indicators usually appear early msgs spam theres actual reason advertising strive get attention early example bothered tokenize first 90 msg would results get worse neil schemenauer spammers could exploit including large mime part beginning message pratice would probably work fine note timtestpys current tokenizer looks decoded text mime sections raw message text mime exists spammers could put megabytes crap wouldnt even looked except email package parse nontext parts well enough skip tokens interesting parts contenttype disposition transferencoding decorations generated mime sections schemes remain ignorant mime vulnerable spammers putting arbitrary amounts nice text preamble area headers first mime section mail readers dont display appear first file latched grahams scoring scheme dont worry clever spammers ive seen evidence exist 05 wink even open source zoo particular scheme gain dominance theres percentage spammers trying fool one scheme even kind scheme using cant know nice text unless pay lot attention spam targets highly tailor messages different one point theyd targeted marketing cost game would increase enormously ifyoureouttomakeaquickbuckyoudontwasteasecondonhard targetsly yrs tim fri 06 sep 2002 020911 0400 spambayes one testing