rajko jugxoi340charternet sunday 17 february 2008 022220 pm hudibras wrote yes thanks information reinforces opinion release kde4 intented new desktop soon mind specific applications fails issues generally speaking feeling finished yet many work left attitude finished finished ok closed development company set goals write product specifications develope test customer comes done opensource public development developers need users test software developed would wait kernel finished start use kernel would playgorund developers forever user ever get chance use valid opensource project look kde3 finished specifications written kde development started take compare resulting software new things still development speak completely made would dday mentioned everybody wait day meanwhile wait wait others write test software guess would fair take part development process use complain things dont like regards rajko see httpenopensuseorgportal wed 06 aug 2008 112333 0600 opensuse kde4