pagaltzis passdelwxgmxde rafael garciasuarez 20071011 1935 say think perl 5 pumpking kurila takes problem wrong end perl 5s codebase basically whats wrong perl 5 lack extensibility solve lack extensibility problem reorthogonalisation syntax needed removing bits syntax help fact prototypes nightmare exceptions badly integrated runtime type checking via ref broken qr implemented cumbersome way implementation magic riddled special cases things need complete rethinking hence perl 6 perl 6 effort driven language design syntax changes kurila read last announcement driven internal refactoring juggling hate bring im particularly fond dumping perl 6 compare effort going python 3000 track record took internal refactoring juggling ok break backcompat approach vs complete retink approach perl 6 dunno gerard energy pursue kurila say also agree p5p probably place discuss forever anyway however think time might better keep discussion recently reading bunch linus torvalds lkml posts con kolivas patches somewhere makes point specialinterest mailing list like ck patchset ml problematic become echo chamber crosspolination ideas viewpoints rings completely true regards aristotle pagaltzis wed 06 aug 2008 113150 0200 kurila 13 released