happybrowndog lujnfuahsrekmhotmailcom actually id like add one thing marks book know brought python sick tired writing desktop applications windows vb vfoxpro moronic languagecontainers consistent felt like programmer spoon fed like baby took server side java knowledge decided apply client side swing resulted failed project took way long develop results horrible users wasted lot time swing end fingers killing javas horrid verboseness lack code generators client side server side ones j2ee retrospect language requires code generation language got one ridiculous things ive ever come across desperately searched solutions found marks book shelves chapters books intrigued discussion using delphi writing python business logic took detour writing pure delphi app something book made curious week later went back store bought book looked python code book began learning python seemed clear made much sense especially compared vb vfoxpro java best reminded early postcollege days programming c fact realized programming python like scripting c abandoned delphi went mark wrote wxpython ive developed 20 full fledged apps wxpython since added advantage integrating windows applications automation thanks marks book _______________________________________________ pythonwin32 mailing list kpitckaew45pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythonwin32 tue 05 aug 2008 202644 0800 pythonwin32 mark hammond going produce new python programming win32 book