ned jackson lovely forkquto sat aug 17 2002 015125am 0400 gary lawrence murphy wrote hatelit choosing term certainly attempting frame debate choosing fearcharged word operate neuralannealing maximaminima gratification mechanisms every creature planet somebody maximizes gratification slaughtering people shouldnt try understand try stop seem forgotten moral relativism everybody justified head doesnt mean forgive mass murders ignore acts still guilty abhorrent understand better see flawed human like one us sides call evil cheers local public media bet somethings rotten state denmark calling side evil timehonored tradition less stepping point analysis situation analysis human nature general guess thats live woods bears racoons understand really dont get people people require touch effort njl httpxentcommailmanlistinfofork sat 17 aug 2002 030601 0400 re2 alqaedas fantasy ideology policy review 114