guido van rossum hoaufpythonorg wed mar 19 2008 516 pm jeffrey yasskin wrote wed mar 19 2008 215 pm wrote 0221 pm phwgmigmailcom wrote otoh id rather oowtdi whatever consensus fine strikes gratuitous api change kind guido warning recent post dont change apis incompatibly porting py3k agree emphatically actually think extreme case unit test stuff stable humanly possible 2 3 moreso library convincing move 1 back 31 lets tread carefully change 30 starting deprecate 31 killing 33 would soon enough like using assertkeyword variants removing assert_ fail assertequals however dont like changing asserttrue assertfalse insist value exactly true false really care much lets add assertisx asserts x object also think tests use operator name implies eg assertequalx something like x pass else raise assertionerror rather x raise assertionerror someone please open bug task guido van rossum home page httpwwwpythonorgguido _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom thu 07 aug 2008 031449 0700 pythondev unittests redundant assertions asserts vs failifunlesses