harripasanenbigfootcom harri pasanen friday 06 september 2002 2048 skip montanaro wrote greg case wasnt obvious im strong proponent filtering greg junk mail early possible ie right smtp data greg command completed filtering spam mua seems greg stupid time gets mua spammer greg already stolen bandwidth two problems see filtering early 1 everyone receiving email via server contribute ham stew making bayesian classification less effective 2 given false positives absolutely put mail somewhere cant simply delete also dont like tmdaish business replying msg says heres really get message puts extra burden correspondents individual would prefer put spammish messages somewhere review anonymous sysadmin might trust personal email nothing greg personally prefer manage stuff user agent level bandwidth heck lot cheaper time see reason approaches could used mta level filtering would need use different corpus one would contain illegal otherwise commonly unapproved material group people using mta im sure approach would significantly reduce mail traffic first step without giving false positives mua corpus would personally trained although id like option downloadable corpuses merge functionality harri ps joined list pardon thoughts hashed fri 6 sep 2002 210728 0200 spambayes deployment