mouss qpeqrnetoyennet michael hutchinson wrote tried different approaches let us forget filled 3 whitelist forms received response yahoo service breaking rfcs delivering mail ignorant towards companies trying use service deliver mail youve even said paid accounts see issue free accounts think make money support free accounts requiring free accounts login things delivering mail via filter control directly folder user never sees delivering mail book lot peoples book doesnt break rfc bad service users conformance issue lot people put mail believed spam spam folder quarantine problem people dont check junk folder would prefer providers let users actively opt least warn whatever know design driven needs lusers represent majority people lusers would quit service get much spam hand every free webmail user ive discussed said never get spam never lost mail foo bar webmail makes service successful business perspective p ps silently discarding mail another issue ive seen hotmail yahoo dont mean doesnt happen yahoo simply mean tests didnt show behaviour paid accounts way im start seeing yahoo acceptable correct matter sense try make junking lot legitimate mail bad site discarding worst means filter quality bad many fps said account owners responsibility complain find reliable provider unless said owner happy getting much spam ive problem yahoo gmail hotmail last year ultimately fixed without dkim btw site didnt send huge quantity mail wasnt really bulk social application members could generate much mail taste addresses get alerts regarding friends events issue sending mail lot people sending lot mail people easier still challenging fri 08 aug 2008 040326 0100 ot yahoo deferred