steve holden gsdszholdenwebcom martin v löwis wrote martin v löwis wrote ill note use easy_install work nonsystem locations want install python packages usrlibpython2x use standard system installer eg aptget install pythonfrobnatz probably windows way things least use windows windows doesnt really notion system location multiple levels windows windowssystem32 system program files say windows users typically view entire system concerns putting things program files system32 matter python25 fact dont care even know stuff ends expect system find expect remove anything installed even without known standard place look uninstalling things course setuptools piece software doesnt play well windows users collect kinds cruft time eventually c run disk space either get new machine reinstall scratch wonder gui managing addons would fit bill alternative packaging though standalone programs windows fairly easy uninstaller registered wrappers managing msi really set registry keys needs get written installation time one command run uninstallation assuming uninstall package uninstalling python uninstall program could python script although using cmdexe batch file would probably resilient concern need delete folder supposed know really sure run official uninstall procedure messes things complain setuptools package author uninstallation doesnt work delete stuff manually forgot remove something remote location didnt even know existed still think fault people hesitant actually execute procedure course provide entry addremove programs uninstalling wont mere deletion mere deletion would still leave registry keys behind although windows got resilient time provide cleanup case believe offers remove arp entry uninstall program removed regards martin _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythonpythondev40mgmaneorg ill note use easy_install work nonsystem locations want install python packages usrlibpython2x use standard system installer eg aptget install pythonfrobnatz probably windows way things least use windows windows doesnt really notion system location multiple levels windows windowssystem32 system program files say windows users typically view entire system concerns putting things program files system32 matter python25 fact dont care even know stuff ends expect system find expect remove anything installed even without known standard place look uninstalling things point fact end user makes increasing sense use application installers automatically install correctversion interpreter dependencies standalone manner ie explicitly sharing anything installed application makes uninstall much easier lack external dependencies eases version lockstep problems would pain computer scientist honestly believe may way forward think wouldnt even matter whether application extension modules built vs2003 vs2008 mingw people misunderstood mike driscoll started provide purepython modules windows installers increasingly naive windows programmer going happier im sure whether provides easy_fking_uninstall zed shaw live memory particular pycon moment ought relatively easy extension modules programmers still offer challenge buildfarm extension module writers could help course setuptools piece software doesnt play well windows users collect kinds cruft time eventually c run disk space either get new machine reinstall scratch someone gave away windows laptop id become sick sight sing amen wonder gui managing addons would fit bill alternative packaging though standalone programs windows fairly easy uninstaller registered wrappers managing msi really set registry keys needs get written installation time one command run uninstallation assuming uninstall package uninstalling python uninstall program could python script although using cmdexe batch file would probably resilient concern need delete folder supposed know really sure run official uninstall procedure messes things complain setuptools package author uninstallation doesnt work quite agree believe might help clearly distinguished developer install add required functionality specific python installation distutils almost good enough setuptools begins seem like overkill application install add bundle executable functionality computer enduser delete stuff manually forgot remove something remote location didnt even know existed still think fault people hesitant actually execute procedure course provide entry addremove programs uninstalling wont mere deletion mere deletion would still leave registry keys behind although windows got resilient time provide cleanup case believe offers remove arp entry uninstall program removed need stop protesting installation tools easy enough try get behind various platforms windows installers rpms support probably arent work nobody particularly relishes relatively low visibility developer world nondeveloper python programmers endusers would thank us though regards steve _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 130723 0400 pythondev pep 365 adding pkg_resources module