joe sloan njktmsusacom randall r schulz wrote extirpation cables world computing really really look forward development mechanical devices place computing well figures reading silence wire ready build wooden computer joe dyrbcmciscocom sun feb 24 103010 2008 message 10 date tue 12 feb 2008 110808 0800 jim fenton subject ssp02 process concerns ietfdkim issue ssp02 discardable inappropriately specifies possible verifier action hector santos cc dkim list messageid 47b1ee986010203ciscocom contenttype textplain charsetiso88591 formatflowed hector santos wrote clearly happens 2 years work commandeered less 2 weeks admittedly thing beauty art mastering chaos essentially findreplace string stripped document imo borderline unethical end conflictive semantics place clearly attempt remove mta verifiers logic filtering dkim mail explicit semantics provided mua entity also need ask even ssp asp skeleton document already model ideas rfc 4871 rfc 5016 point would vote total sspasp abandonment rather risk email world questionable late minute changes without thinking much consequences respect process got ssp02 eric hard work done eric course worked strippeddown version ssp late december early january thought closer working group consensus time shared early draft chairs still concerned making sweeping change without specific direction wg january 25 sent message proposal restructuring ssp order socialize idea one responses received john levine editing asp draft number people operating outside working group exchanged drafts found lot similarities johns permission incorporated language early asp draft ssp remember appendix almost entirely asp draft think took appropriate steps introducing incremental change previous draft wed 06 aug 2008 093448 0800 opensuse defragging possible necessary