6 524 german affricates may missed discussion matter away couple weeks want throw one item nt already english least phonetic distinction palatoalveolar afffricate alveolar stop palatoalveolar fricative patent unproblematic pairs like catch vs cat shit ratchet vs rat shit easy hear difference even prosodic patterns first let call c case stop segment alveolar palatoalveolar short whole twoquality sequence length initial voiceless stop second let call ts cluster alveolar bit retracted without much laminal contact length sequence like length cluster e stop onset ovbershort first case wonder distinction german less roger lass university cape town