august palo verde latest information rate increases california indicates implemented june lst means customers see price signal june actually see bill july agree greg may see dramatic demand side response people see bills idea long take people businesses adjust behavior really care positions guys want carry advice greg short fairly illiquid product want get right would pay least position north 800 mwh near term think easy get trade long run market comes easy get bottom line end day think may right things look bullish right want make sure know already pushed bounds liquidity product expect us provide liquidity market offer us time get