matt et6245gmailcom doesnt make sense maybe misunderstanding openspforg spf actually suppose spammer forges hotmailcom address tries spam connect somewhere hotmail message sent see mail dont take word ask hotmail ip address comes network mta never really sees whats headers adds headers smtp connection first begins connecting mta says helo suchandsuchsuchnsuchdomaincom thats spf looks mta adds return path headers returnpath return path looks flaky would think spamassassin would way since valid domain consider suspect sure though matt thu 07 aug 2008 215747 0600 fwd spf_fail flag