hendrik hizflbislandnetcom hi russell thanks detailed reply russell mcormond wrote saw replies im convinced understand trying well first dont know ie may missing much information searching licensing information web since may know right questions ask thus trying get info people knowledgeable suspect may license covers trying cover bsd ballpark refers software artistic works 1 grant readers listeners viewers something created right copy redistribute excerpt modify edit parody otherwise use full part without adding additional content insert choice creative idea method musical score poem story music recording picture video recording way see fit including purpose making money without required mention creator said exception choose mention creator said must mention ive seen many liberal licenses grant permission everything attribute author work special case saying dont attribute arent allowed attribute something else something ive never seen ok gather know license close namely one grants permission everything differs scenario described regards issue attributing author call license thinking may want go general case avoid use custom license yes looking existing license close enough need close enough would willing use rather writing creative commons attribution license would great many types works new bsdstyle license great software ill specifically check web info creative commons attribution license next possible articulating wouldnt want oldstyle bsd license annoying advertising clause mandating attributed situations far beyond properly listed source code one thing would want reading info bsd licenses yesterday gathered newer style available even u c b relaxed original requirement recently httpwwwgnuorgphilosophybsdhtml details httpwwwfsforglicensinglicensesindex_htmlmodifiedbsd httpwwwfsforglicensinglicensesindex_htmloriginalbsd offending clause 3 advertising materials mentioning features use software must display following acknowledgement product includes software developed university california berkeley contributors noted thanks 2 retain exactly rights said grant others 1 also retain right publicize fact creator given person entity making use said chosen mention copyright holder dont need offer permission anything copyright list activities require permission payment circumstances people ok easy leave item thinking situations like michael jackson owns rights beatles songs paul mcc gives niece permission use one songs debut album might get sued michael jackson knowledegable enough understand whether scenario realistic even fact consider possible would show least much fud generated around copyright issues indeed realistic want make sure happen would types things worried wanted clarify clause never need permission distributoruser work say work didnt know 3 readers listeners viewers grant license regards derivative work created include otherwise make use parts work licenses licences may less restrictive license must case contradict 2 needs clarification saying cant restrict access work yes least implicitly right use work remains unrestricted might include certain circumstances dont really know might legalities might involved also right access wherever someone else may storing talking drm restrictions ie encrypt work cant access without permission whatever included hadnt even thought far yet encryption aside fact give damn drm someone encrypt work would want retain right decrypt crack necessary necessity may extremely rare real life knows saying cant restrict anything want derivative anything want derivatives since licenses liberal mine able things derivatives like creating yet derivates thew way tune contains parts tyke glees parody 1995 song mowers gone think gets complicated people understand meaning far easier simply go reciprocalcopyleft worry type scenario well many probably thought scenarios assume answers concerns form certain licenses copyleft concept familar ill research many people promote liberal licenses believe get bees honey vinegar suggesting using liberal license may encourage people use similar liberal licenses strong copyleft restrictions may different opinion opinion quite common well dont know enough specific opinion regard know life getting increasingly opinion unnecessarily unreasonably complicated companies whose interests opposed mine creatorperformer artistic works governments cooperating make ever complex restricitive rules intellectual property copyright drm things one problems trying go custom license especially one written without help lawyer unclear people reading even clear people read still might loopholes illmeaning entities could use id like avoid custom license said since many minds work created established licenses surely covered ground thoroughly could ever cover given written suspect license matches closely enough situation described far thanks regards hendrik _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list discusslistdigitalcopyrightca 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