jesse mctrzmdagmailcom im trying understand bug intentional part api designers count objects always one less actual count example 20 friendsxml 1 false someone 4 someoneelse total_count shows 1 2 users someones friend_count 4 go look someones friendsxml theyd 5 friends whats difference 0 friends 1 friend show total count 0 yes ive noticed would 0 elements section zero friend require parser determine needs parse anything information already available count bug im happy submit intentional would seem poor design received message subscribed google groups pownceapi group post group send email zgdjhgesvgooglegroupscom unsubscribe group send email ggnqhfrshhbqfvscggnqgooglegroupscom options visit group httpgroupsgooglecomgrouppownceapihlen thu 07 aug 2008 095335 0700 pownceapi count show one less actual