aaron kulkis cmiqlkx91hotpopcom anders johansson wrote tuesday 12 february 2008 220135 alexey eremenko wrote worse yet even kde4 system settings crashing httpsbugzillanovellcomshow_bugcgiid361266 people still think kde4 ok think build 110 leaves things desired build build service 103 much better expect 110 version settle alpha3 least far crashes go 110 build going default alphastage pile give newbies dont know better totally horrible impression suse linux going smart thing ahlgrwhsvgmailcom sun feb 24 103010 2008 messageid 58ce48dc0802120958h5ad20bf0g62e36bfff8e616b4mailgmailcom date tue 12 feb 2008 125841 0500 chas owens michael barnes subject lstat uses cc kashif salman perl beginners mimeversion 10 contenttype textplain charsetiso88591 contenttransferencoding 7bit feb 12 2008 1238 pm michael barnes wrote snip im new kid beginners forum welcome ideas options forgiving ignorance would mind giving example would lsof snip works systems lsof checking file size change fairly portable inexact way checking see file still written course lsof also problems file opened written closed opened written closed etc lsof runs file closed usrbinperl use warnings use strict lsof usrsbinlsof file tmpfoo pid fork die could fork unless defined pid unless pid child writes file 5 seconds open fh file die could open filen 1 5 print fh sleep 1 exit parent monitors file file_holder_pid qxlsof file chompfile_holder_pid file_holder_pid print file current held open file_holder_pidn sleep 1 file_holder_pid qxlsof file chompfile_holder_pid tue 05 aug 2008 113243 0500 opensuse opensuse 110 nonready kde4