rajko jugxoi340charternet thursday 14 february 2008 093309 pm jb2 wrote kde4 apps substituted 103 release kdepim3 package kalarmd kde3 version though guess actually want korganizer kontact personal information manager kde4kalarm kde4 application version main opensuse repository obsolete work current kde4 either newer version yet available seems one maintain application makes absolutely sense especially since many kde4 things arent working correctly kde4 version dvd 39something current 401 repositories looks way better complains alpha version opensuse 110 early test problems one see completely unrelated kde4 waste space dvd could filled apps work people could use im tempted ask like barely something install installation 650 mb cd install dvd additional dvd repositories retail box gives everything opensuse offers nothing left besides people like working system others new stuff one world satisfy groups world going kde1 2 past kde3 quite time kde4 future people fix 50 years old car fix 10 years old software us mortals must follow trend accept experts offer means start learning kde4 help developers much interest kde guys improved kde4 sketchy ver 39 working desktop ver 40 2 months easy cooperate ask facts flat doesnt work resembles youngsters dont know want want regards rajko see httpenopensuseorgopensuse_mailing_list_netiquette tue 05 aug 2008 215800 0600 opensuse opensuse 110 nonready kde4