8 1208 sum double dutch youthese pig latin thu 21 aug 1997 linguist list linguist linguistlist org wrote waruno mahdi mahdi fhiberlin mpg de subject summary double dutch youthese pig latin jack hall response query pig latin mentioned called op language read book magazine 1012 years old mid 1950 recall simple rule put op phonetically p every consonant word except last final consonant certain rule consonant clusters thus dog would dopog remember specifically word umbrella given umopbopropellopa indicating op placed three consonants beginning umbr one double l never met anybody heard language knew use since learned book rather people children say anything sociolinguistics idiolect heard 10 197374 friends played around language called oppish little differently described op inserted consonant even last one based word spelled ship would sophopipop umbrella would umopbopropeloplopa tentative conclusions phenomena pig latin type phonologically manipulated secret language youth slang apparently neither anglosaxon european particularity b predeliction pig latin type language game covers much wider age bracket initially suspected beginning around 10 years overlapping youth slang pig latin type expressions may taken slang specific words think familiar pig latin young 5 6 course older brothers helped remember using friends second third grade 7 9 years old pig latin also used occasionally adults often keep young children understanding talking similar spelling words also remember fred flintstone tv cartoon series flintstones sometimes muttered ix nay barney ixnay thought barney rubble saying much pig latin nix barney nix nix meaning nothing slang shut get us trouble put sock parents also spike jones christmas record album included jingle bells sung partly pig latin children ingle jay ellsbay inglejay ellsbay inglejay ayway kevin caldwell