michael w cocke xqldpcatherderscom thu 07 feb 2008 125151 0100 wrote michael w cocke wrote use dhcp netops trace seem 5kth list ironic hell considering effort put avoiding mit netops 20 years ago able run tcpdump locally machine unless addresse changes rapidly catch one icmp report ip netops guys per jessen zürich shows external address use nat anyway academic netops seems found pulled offline mike youre confused youre trying hard enough please note due intense volume spam installed sitewide spam filters catherderscom email bounces try nonhtml nonencoded nonattachments tue 05 aug 2008 183842 0500 flooded jr spam