owen byrne owenpermafrostnet tom wrote mon 22 jul 2002 adam rifkin wrote john markoff ahhh ahole reporter love sneer san francisco july 21 significant challenge microsoft realnetworks plans announce new version software monday distribute audio video range formats including microsofts proprietary windows media real currupt ms many real ways astounding real ms ceos dont felate tech mass media conferences real needs die die horribly thier biz practices alone give instant berth 5th circle hell crap foist systems installation gets em free passes circles httpxentcommailmanlistinfofork well take thread topic anyone know whats involved serving streaming video assume practical alternatives ms real likely cost software owen httpxentcommailmanlistinfofork tue 23 jul 2002 215730 0300 nyt real source