michael watterson uvtjseircomnet gavin mccullagh wrote hi wed 10 oct 2007 michael watterson wrote existing setboxes updated automatically upc pvr trialling hd shortly hd presumably involve paying extra premium though right course like sky pay tv unfortunately horses mouth mind need card per box case satellite pay tv legal would card per box ntl one wouldnt use criminal offence realise im allowed two boxes working time course sadly without permission upc ireland criminal offence unlike sky buy sky digibox source sell subscription card upc wont supply card unless upc supplied box usually box card come together fact increasingly paired government realistic plan roll dtt trial window dressing end 2008 would crying shame works well experience needs content goverment ineptitude dtt digital satellite exceeded ineptitude regulating eircom getting decent broadband rolled maybe also water sewage treatment 20 years behind eu deadlines clear dishes disguised dishes even point dish indoors window floor balcony plastic sheet sadly doubt work northfacing apartment people managed reception reflection adjoining apartment locally folks sneak onto roof drop cable outside unless higher building dishes visible costs 150 eur per apartment communal system 4 satellites apartments cabled anyway cable terrestrial even fed cable distribution carrier neutral fibre cat5 mandatory new apartment blocks instead many illegal minimonopolies badly installed analogue cable using single domestic sub sky channelsky box feeding cable gavin mike wed 06 aug 2008 052829 0100 ntl digital tv quality ilug broadband dublin