pending refund order discussed today commission meeting although final order yet available able glean basic content commission latest refund order discussion commission meeting morning appears commission strayed far judge wagner recommendations came settlement conference ordered ferc highlights include california refunds offsets apply spot transactions caiso calpx october 2 public non public utilities subject refund appears refund methodology similar june 19 order refined judge wagner daily spot gas prices utilized methodology 10 creditworthiness premium added evidentiary hearing ordered collect data needed methodology understanding caiso 15 days provide certain information judge must certify record 45 days separate preliminary evidentiary hearing ordered consider pacific northwest refunds briefly described consisting information gathering proceeding 15 days followed evidentiary proceeding 30 days judge would additional 7 days report commission issue definition spot transaction pac nw since counsel commission noted could differ spot definition california awaiting final order update report soon issues ra