andrew mcnabb xeuksijmcnabbsorg thu may 01 2008 125522pm 0700 guido van rossum wrote im proud dont see way around alternative would make keyword seemed excessive plus would odd super keyword self long discussions various possible ways implement something like downsides pep still isnt fixed describe status quo remember brainstorms treating like self im sure thought way remember seeing something like class myclasssuper1 super2 method requires super requires_super def __init__self super kwds superkwds method doesnt require super def some_methodself pass im sure drawbacks fits head using super python 20 verbose simple however im little scared super python 30 guess im probably wimp andrew mcnabb httpwwwmcnabbsorgandrew pgp fingerprint 8a17 b57c 6879 1863 de55 8012 ab4d 6098 8826 6868 fri 08 aug 2008 004758 0600 pythondev problems new super