apbrcdivmodcom 0221 pm phwgmigmailcom wrote otoh id rather oowtdi whatever consensus fine strikes gratuitous api change kind guido warning recent post dont change apis incompatibly porting py3k agree emphatically actually think extreme case unit test stuff stable humanly possible 2 3 moreso library one thing test fails functionality broken much worse test fails meaning test changed going happen anyway eg assertequalsfookeys list common enough assertion mixin changes test framework creates even confusion pain granted change apparently trivial easy understand new traceback requires thinking going quite enough thinking going 23 say experience twisteds trial burned repeatedly introducing apparently trivial changes testing tool apparently trivial changes python stdlib unittest module upon depend nothing havent able handle 23 transition exacerbates potential compatibility problems whatever stdlib regard well definitely continue provide insulating layer trial keep types assertions compatibility maybe answer use twisted unit tests rather worry compatibility lib _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 153139 0000 pythondev unittests redundant assertions asserts vs failifunlesses