wynne conor conor_wynnemaxtorcom yes lasat speed basic sucksasscom wont work coz eircon shite two em sitting drawer might use day get elcheapo isdn card 50 yoyos usually suffice trust load crap hfc based one trodding along nicely yonks gets detected automagically pretty much distro kernel support million years later cw ps modems probably winmodems pain ze arsecom work lots poking worth effort imho use isdn nat regarding another problem install isdn usb modem lasat speed basic however im pretty sure supported linux featured hardware browser without installed drivers thanks replies however still cant get detect external usb modem also internal 56k fax modem get detected either maybe designed windows supported im going buy new modem think 2 enough 1 pc could well inexperience linux making difficult whatever iv enough last gasp ideas would welcome many thanks mark irish linux users group iluglinuxie httpwwwlinuxiemailmanlistinfoilug unsubscription information list maintainer listmasterlinuxie tue 20 aug 2002 102919 0100 ilug newbie question