john hall johnhallevergonet anyone doesnt appreciate pluck luck looking part equation america fact moved hard toward meritocracy huge one dont necessarily find forbes list element luck even right place right time go high beyond forbes list many ways almost pure luck involved significant wealth supermodel example though think people would surprised lot supermodels cindy crawford valedictorian high school people course arent stratified realms rest us tend sort huge philosophical problem concept merit first place rawls claims merit doesnt exist sowell seems agree least part im sure sowell would also state benefits pretending exists society large enormous merit exist exactly measuring iq purity heart ability satisfy customers functionally people seem equate merit iq though say would better purity heart yet type merit lands forbes list even garden variety millionaire next door likely serving customers definition differences due merit perceived generate far animosity differences due luck luck forgiven superior performance often original message forkadminxentcom mailtoforkadminxentcom behalf geege schuman sent monday september 23 2002 444 pm r hettinga geege schuman owen byrne cc gary lawrence murphy mr fork forkspamassassintaintorg digital bearer settlement list subject comrade communism crony capitalism sed sunited statesroman empireg first misattribution write blurb made one statement vp cheney wit short memory couldnt agree short economics zero sum game property theft rich dont get rich backs poor redistributionist labor theory value happy horseshit horseshit happy otherwise however resent lumped zerosumzealot category suggesting nothing rich successful face value apropos nothing beginning understand people immediately fiercely object ad hominem cheney align weird sylogisms like rich deservedly rich smarter given also beginning understand people need rich wrt meritocracies hail meritocracies wrt harvard 90 2002 graduates cum laude interesting curve eager measured got wish unwashed shy folk live provide balast speaking forbes reading peter norton today old issue waiting doctor norton attributes success luck imagine geege original message r hettinga mailtorahshipwrightcom sent sunday september 22 2002 1001 pm geege schuman owen byrne cc gary lawrence murphy mr fork forkspamassassintaintorg digital bearer settlement list subject comrade communism crony capitalism sed sunited statesroman empireg begin pgp signed message hash sha1 1115 0400 92202 geege schuman wrote seem ivy league educations ivy league dropouts suggesting werent exactly poor start actually remember correctly discussion lists composition forbes five six years ago best way get forbes 400 college say bootstraps boys girls knew could given undergraduate liberal arts degree state school like say mine nothing stuff taught governmentrun high school youll probably get forbes 400 well time goes ever get around good old fashioned governmentcollapsing transferpayment depression economic version summers governmentforest conflagration caused kind innumeracy clearcutting enough forests west summer motivate erstslackers including learn actually feed next category forbes 400 list someone terminal professional degree like mba phd md etc best school possible 1950 best way get harvard instance smart rich dont take word ask admissions office look admissions stats years proof meritocracy american style invented ivy league world war ii even stanford got hint course chicago taught right practically nobody goes top20 american institution higher learning actually afford go days unless course parents couldnt afford go got terminal degrees last 40 years kids still get grades biased intelligence test scores get bizarre irony almost people terminal degrees actually something hire people learn make something living day profit loss basis persist practically insane belief like life death economics kind zero sum game dumb people dont work hard make money someone smart works hard rich stole wealth somehow btw none guys holding short end rhetorical stick blame fact im using beat severely collective head shoulders apparently dumb grab right end went missouri dont degree anything actually useful much less terminal one means im broker anyone list people lots educations far surpassing plain know better facts speak open eyes look epicycles universe orbit earth economics zerosum game cost anything including ignorance destitution forgone alternative case intelligence effort however admit educated waay past level competence way discuss economics apparently btw ever actually free markets country including abolition redistributive income death taxes smart people forbes 400 would money would selfmade people list addition people inherited money list would much less even relatively speaking finally practically new money would come economic efficiency stolen someone else investment bubbles efficiency called progress peoples republics berkeley cambridge means better stuff cheaper time terrible petitbourgeois concept apparently worthy teaching educational elite youd know economic terms also called increase general welfare virginia im talking extorting money someone works giving someone doesnt order keep working think politician santa claus come election time short economics zero sum game property theft rich dont get rich backs poor redistributionist labor theory value happy horseshit horseshit happy otherwise believe otherwise quite literally given time marx wrote capital manifesto romantic nonsense cheers rah begin pgp signature version pgp 75 iqaawubpy511cpxh8jf3ohaeqlasgcfzhsqmsvuy6gqj5wgl52dwzkpihmanrur yybocicylp5tlkl58jpwefu z877 end pgp signature r hettinga internet bearer underwriting corporation 44 farquhar street boston 02131 usa however may deserve respect usefulness antiquity predicting end world found agreeable experience edward gibbon decline fall roman empire mon 23 sep 2002 172929 0700 pluck luck