5 1500 comparative method polarization reviews forwarding following posting request robert rankin rankin ukanvm cc unkans edu subscribe list wish join fray present name mentioned sometimes file forwarded via email thus following andy anderson cites three points series recent postings known andy upwards 30 years feel would tentionally misrepresent views also feel couple things need clarification first uncomfortable formally cited secondary source information lyle campbell paper boulder green berg conference ca 1990 andy wishes distribute attack paper author written form first obtain actual copy alternatively await publication guess nt brought conversation ssila aaa meetings second said reported geneticists studied mitochondrial dna mtdna sundry native american siberian peo ples claim two subgroups within amerind aside eskimo athabaskans paper authors wallace torroni schurr et al said authors address linguistic problems certainly nt talk subgroups since regard historicity anything like amerind even remotely established authors paper posit least four migrations discuss recent eskomo aleut abstract think gave time depth figure 6000 years bp present orally nt quote abstract call na dene figure 700010000 years bp say evidence least two migrations preceding one comes 1200015000 bp earliest 2600034000 bp figures high 40000 bp mentioned orally recall attempt correlate figures knowledge periods glaciation periodic existence land bridge beringia leave readers decide portends amerind hypo thesis proposed glotto chronology warning order event note written migration quotes wish pejorate term geneticists use special way solely ap pearance specific genetic material american populations assume common ancestor calculate number millennia positing uniform mutation rate mtdna material theories work force definition migration says nothing situation ground reality though genetic migrations included many distinct movements people across beringia great many years perhaps centuries even millennia may represented many ling guistic groups required order entire clusters migrations ground get read single mtdna migration relatively homogeneous gene pool eastern siberia particular time span genetic mutation occurred evidence indeed suggest four genetic migrations really says little nothing many real migrations four clusters say anything linguistic diversity much less subgroups amerind may wish nt note interest however rough correlation geneticists oldest figures calculations nichols 1990 language 66 3 based linguistic diversity western hemisphere recent sets mtdna dates fall within esta blished archaeological ballpark clovis believers although earliest set certainly one short contribution mostly wife actually since molecular geneticist talk things breakfast yardstick used mtdna geneticists cal culations may appreciably better used glottochrono logy e genetic mutation takes place rate rela tively constant speeded various singular events cosmic ray bombardment ingesting certain fungi infecting grain cache pit biologists try allow sort thing see plus minus dates cluster talking something precise dendrochronology even radiocarbon dating mtdna studies interesting must bear mind limitations special use term migration lastly earlier posting andy mentions examined green berg notebooks determined mislabeled much siouan data lia andy description way notebooks laid correct actually seen xeroxes pages siouan entries notebooks might add siouan entries notebook hard iroquoian caddoan yuchi entries demonstrating greenberg decided final classification families laid notebook design vocabularies languages entered thanks john koontz posting sincerely bob rankin university kansas rankin ukanvm cc ukans edu