barry warsaw pjaxqpythonorg begin pgp signed message hash sha1 feb 29 2008 159 pm stephen j turnbull wrote think probably desirable put deadline pressure individuals rush get work cause alphato alpha regressions advised wait future similar circumstances rhythm established people expect alphas consistently increasing features consistently decreasing defects thats true somethings wrong process team needs step back something agree already think broken process changes land break buildbots ideally never happen buildtest environment two flaws first retroactive proactive second tests always stable given wide range platforms volunteer nature buildbot farm dont think theres much right second point things mitigate though take majoritysuccess approach give weight stable platforms buildbots second one tougher work process necessary would change workflow committing changes tree even faults im big fan pqm though thats something think ready bigger question though whether development community would change way work nothing lands doesnt pass tests wed trading inconvenience administrative headaches better overall quality alwaysreleasable guarantees barry begin pgp signature version gnupg v148 darwin iqcvawubr8hed3ejvbptnxfvaqijgpdyf1oavy7y4gtrkhijm0y4djstidf fh2mhqexwtcx6v8m3mon46urwstwtz9tueznnec8xsxq734gtvyi9vw6clpmzq6 uqpibtnkqnz3sdd8newagpbo5ml2mynrfi2xat5vfi5aksradwjkgc71fl 8iawho5xkem jqmb end pgp signature _______________________________________________ python3000 mailing list smsbmo9552pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopython3000 unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspython3000python300040tangomucom tue 05 aug 2008 194854 0500 python3000 pythondev code freeze