text_combined: barry warsaw pjaxqpythonorg begin pgp signed message hash sha1 mar 18 2008 204 travis oliphant wrote hey barry thanks putting pep together really helpful hi travis thanks didnt see discussion pep 3118 features backported python 26 ive already backported new buffer api addition old buffer protocol addition ive planned backport improvements struct module addition memoryview object pep 3118 questions talk tomorrow lets neal put together list things thinks needs backported formalize list best given still alpha add pep think also make sure open issues tracker backporting task neal talked yesterday came general guidelines view conservative use future imports backports want start closing gap 26 30 itll still fairly wide though well use 2731 close even things like backporting stuff defuturizing features 26 etc may take conservative approach new features next major release families concentrating instead stabilizing weve got helping make transition less less painful could imagine 2832 would close gap far enough wouldnt much work move 28 32 would move 25 26 thoughts might want shorten post 2630 release cycles say 1 year less help speed transition try hard keep new features minimum might possible also avoid churn quite people expressed might 5 years switch fully 30 seems fine given big python shops still 22 15 16 3 years 2630 2832 doesnt seem wildly outrageous given longer view transition conservative backport 26 general principle would anything brand new syntax 30 backported wont existing code 26 could break anything enabled futureimport might candidate careful tricky semantic differences example changing meaning dictkeys via futureimport good idea one thing would like see __future__ import unicode_strings thing would allow write unicode string literals python 26 without u prefix thats fairly localized change affecting file literals appear would go long way toward closing gap one question came whether enough bitfields handle future statements might whether even want see python 26 code sprinkled lots future statements make sense __future__ import python3 umbrella really many future statements barry begin pgp signature version gnupg v148 darwin iqcvawubr9wghejvbptnxfvaqlp1apopsuxhdge1uxifka6fekxs1zms1pe0ww oimg2kw3afzl5o1mdrrbudyretpnhlxbtgxfgi7vjcvsubi0sqwemcqoz1i 9qlbfco8yrmxlcztdl9e0nepibsuanlkjcdnp8vu3qjbox0ekqntfk1assckxvgt h1o5wgqnx5m wijq end pgp signature _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 080649 0500 pythondev python3000 pep 361 python 2630 release schedule