text_combined: sapirwhorf sure beating dead horse speak nt feel let david prager branner comment slip form often articulated sapir whorf obvious even trivial anyone tried idiomatic translation two radically different languages knows language positively rules way think fully selfevident justify listing examples testimonials done translation english spanish nt know count radically different conclusion experience hardly branner would say instead language positively rules express think suspect along branner sapir whorf really hypothesis certainly coherent one stated since think construed many different ways suspect disagreement branner much function use word substantially language shapes nt shape congitive processes michael newman dept educational theory practice ohio state university mnewman magnus acs ohiostate edu