text_combined: guido van rossum hoaufpythonorg dont recall proposing name change still dont see metaclasses mentioned type usable builtin function access objects class metaclass fact root metaclass wed apr 2 2008 358 pm benjamin peterson wrote wed apr 2 2008 551 pm guido van rossum wrote idea saying ssincesense another lesson proofread python impulses p especially think list dict set arent metaclasses would make sense make name change wed apr 2 2008 334 pm benjamin peterson wrote wed apr 2 2008 520 pm guido van rossum wrote wed apr 2 2008 303 pm amaury forgeot darc wrote wed apr 2 2008 1157 pm paul prescod wrote anyone else find odd types things classes classes things types typesocketsocket typeabc socketsocket__class__ abc__class__ recent talk could explain historical quirk understand possible make types behave basically exactly like classes classes behave exactly like types important difference anymore find one difference types written c classes written python difference behaviour types dont writable __dict__ add members classes flexible thats correctly described difference builtin typesclasses userdefined typesclasses think still historical quirk maybe bite bullet fix py3k still type class part language one builtin function metaclass keyword especially think change list dict set arent metaclasses would make since fix guido van rossum home page httpwwwpythonorgguido _______________________________________________ python3000 mailing list smsbmo9552pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopython3000 unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspython3000musiccomposition40gmailcom cheers benjamin peterson guido van rossum home page httpwwwpythonorgguido cheers benjamin peterson guido van rossum home page httpwwwpythonorgguido _______________________________________________ python3000 mailing list smsbmo9552pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopython3000 unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspython3000python300040tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 231800 0700 python3000 types classes