text_combined: scott cantor bqbvdn6osuedu think conclusion bearer subjectconfirmation doesnt strictly require nameid dont think general subject confirmation method requires one confirmation normally considering case somebody directly presents assertion along proof legitmacy case bearer possibly time presentation client address etc model presenting assertion implicit data assertion considered implicit identity nameid simply one means passing one type data attributes another main place use nameid subsequent message exchanges singlelogout scott unsubscribe email zwuiopcitsxkbbpazwlistsoasisopenorg additional commands email rnzpzqvxvvklistsoasisopenorg fri 08 aug 2008 055025 0500 samldev nameidless saml subject