text_combined: bill stoddard billwstoddardcom chuck murcko wrote heh ten years ago saying exact words definitely parroting party line even less thirty years ago story remains take leave ive said words white supremacists suburban leftist punks homeys french irish etc etc dont agree anything say obligated defend death right say dont give rats ass say even france dont care political pendulum swung currently chuck laugh rumsfield yesterday heckled protestors said something like couldnt iraq meanwhile could tell protestors arrested owen trying shoutdown speaker loud rowdy someone else trying speak vernacular getting face rude disrespectful persistently getting someones face assault criminal offense people something say say signs get venue something else chew protesters interested changing anyones mind rumsfield saying likely change someones mind rude disrespectful win friends influence people either folks social misfits understanding human interactions else would try constructive means get message across get rocks regardless affects people immoral best downright evil worst bill thu 19 sep 2002 111147 0400 hansons sept 11 message national review