text_combined: sapir whorf tell students days tell undergrad grad students chapter language files e difficult even judge going whorf unless simultaneously conversant linguistics american indian languages least insights modern physics first conclusion appropriate showed demise whorf hypothesis berkeley linguistics society 1978 whorf said little generally relation whatever entire body discussion comes name sapir whorf hypothesis showed decades critics came hypotheses failed name would never agreed characterization thoughts simple test read lf chapter ask created whorf hypothesis quick way answer whorf call two three references called principle linguistic relativity linguistic relativity principle reading whorf never finds word hypothesis right bat good way teach scientific nomenclature turned whorf principle n hypothesis nt whorf designation clear difference two well principle like axiom geometry starting point theoretically unverifiable starting point want something else begin different starting point develop hypotheses next whorf linguistic relativity principle anything einstein relativity principle covered also bls 1980 paper whorf relativity einstein relativity ah gotten crux much pinker stand copied intensified lingua franca short bio suzette elgin hayden recently digression found author saying whorf cobbled together theory illtranslated snatches apache echoing pinker statement relying pinker quoting whorf correctly nt canoe beach pointwise pinker identified apache sentence whorf knew quite well nootka pacific northwest rather apache beachless desert whorf upping ante einstein argued euclidian geometry far universal applicable flat surfaces round surfaces reality made need non euclidian geometry e phenomena change significantly change tool using well whorf said see heisenberg lament except moved domain mathematics natural human language hence truly aptly named principle linguistic relativity whorf named admittedly nt make sense see action american indian model universe posits worldview without tense time past present future diorama river time using manifested manifesting plus synonyms instead sae grammars cultures give aforementioned notion time supported maintained tense systems though admittedly english weird gets culture side language culture system hopi language culture system image time working different worldview principle sees cyclical linear time round flat world grammars broken latinate mold show particular time tense system sae pretty much peculiar western european languages hence linguistic cultural ontology time know practice supposed universal fondly believed side note one reads whorf closely makes five ten times universalist statements relativity statements writings yet seen reviled chomskyan universalist attitude relativist par excellent right getgo see 1 whorf nt write would nt agree hypothesis someone named 2 rather deranged crackpot merely literate whorf one interdisciplinary thinkers physics linguistics century 3 whorf relativity principle something important einstein 4 whorf universalist well relativist balance notable enough rarity current academe must admit may bold alluding posting one disproved whorf mild version linguistic relativity let leave ling determinism aside stronger version even mild version nt trace back like find whorf espoused neither strong weak versions determinism relativity nothing determinism see physics viewpoint read carefully writers whorf hypothesis admit even whorf nt hold strong version determinism nt nobody bring critics hold weak version dreamed even though whorf would nt hold least weakly deterministic therefore newtonian going problem whorf already acquaintance physics moved newtonian monocausal determinism ideal systems thinking sometimes opposite one profound truth another profound truth everything interdependent multicausal interconnected language shapes culture culture shaping language language shapes thinking thinking shaping language cumulative effect humboldt boas sapir whorf hypothesis literature primarily throw smokescreen around ideas people including grad students linguistics psychology anthropology sociology wont read original english tell grad students want really find discipline go find discipline beating read lucky find someone four major academic disciplines ganging know hit goldmine world could important four academic disciplines create combined smokescreen linguists century availed changes thinking reality physics broadcasting entire century linguists even qualified step nt realize interdisciplinary debate history ideas whorf felt comfortable explain give synopsis talk intend give 100th birthday conference benjamin whorf intend get funding hold bay area spring 1997 call heisenberg lament see early century uncertain heisenberg among first gain glimpse subatomic world done rendered opinion regarding subatomic realm reached limits language said two reasons 1 matter glibly western scientists talk electrons protons neutrons quarks etc look realm things processes relationships order make sense e complete sentences sae languages need nouns nothing subatomic realm except willynilly attach nouns 2 given fundamental scientific terms different useless nt know physics nt know whether gazillions electrons one electron gazillions manifestations reached limits language fast forward decades whorf hears physics classes yale unpublished manuscripts gravity yale archives ponders hm wonder anything prof sapir said day hopi needing nouns express ordinary propositions rehpi flashed instead light flashed come right flashing different light light convenient grammatical fiction foisted upon us sae grammar pondered light noun verb particle wave depending viewed saw universe way different cultures taking different positions question case since hopi nt seem take seriously absence nouns perhaps whorf surmised hopi could use physicists exploring reporting back quantum world realm nt thingy nouns fast forward another decades physicist david bohm reads whorf confirmed personally talking response attribution writes _ wholeness implicate order _ among things tries make english verby performative rheomode brilliant flop launches scientific community view universe contain familiar notions past present future time instead implicate explicate order reality inny outty notion future inside us working outward instead vague distant goal headed toward email acquaintance pointedly asked difference bohm terminology whorf terminology took 6 months finally answer none except hopis millennia longer hit bohm maverick way appropriated whorf answer heisenberg lament american indian model universe substituted scientifically acceptable terminology implicate explicate rather manifesting manifested see notion universe without linear time would fly modern physics academic community qualified success bohm closer knowing whether whorf accurate description hopi writing book much bad press guy one know ultimately part almost noone knows far 1991 last months life david bohm launched ambitious thought experiment date physicists psychologists linguists sponsored fetzer institute enticed recognized american indian intellectual leaders elders join dialogue together describe roundabout way asking american indians whether whorf accurate description timeless hopi worldview became much american indian leaders previously read bohm book others physicists knew nothing native american worldviews native american science methodologies indians build bridge private meetings three public days themes time space language day time whorf description hopi came read loud discussed though nt remember hopis present nevertheless american indians present mostly algonquian tribes gave called independent verification scientific terminology saying essentially well cant speak hopi people pretty much way fact many whorf passages read discussed dialogues physicists american indians present usually willing give whorf points proving perhaps difficulty prophet one country discipline done yet best yet come actual conclusion heisenberg lament beginning first dialogue clear quantum physicists favorite realm explore talk american indians also favorite realm dialogued began becoming clear favorite realms fundamental principles common constant flux everything exists vibrates everything interconnected part implicates whole fact became crystal clear last major obstacle realms realm really terminological physicists used calling subatomic realm whereas american indians millennia calling spirit realm big enough surprise modern physics knocking door spirit without really meaning big enough let take home puzzled physicists american indians foreknowledge realm nt know western scientific infrastructure recently led us indians scientific infrastructure physicists gradually understood like hopi algonquian grammatical structures demand nouns demand fictitious actors embody actions mikmaq blackfoot friends tell talk day long languages never utter single noun finally admit languages indeed much better suited exploring realm reporting back sae languages whorf reply heisenberg lament verified agreed upon phenomena reality change dramatic way need change tool using course physicists left even larger puzzle wit american indians language much better suited sae languages investigate describe inner workings subatomic realm realm nt even supposed know see pinker like facile critics unindicted cocreators socalled hypothesis league altogether attempting characterize major player one important interdisciplinary discussions ever history ideas pinker like chomsky loves logic grows grammar sae languages philosophy karma grew grammar ancient sanskrit used earliest linguistics term irect object never really gotten program century replace binary dualistic thinking multivariable multicausal interdependent systems thinking whorf heard call way back may yet prove entire century ahead time linguistics even though think systems phonology grammar tough time language thought feel make bipolar opposites distinct one causes invariantly admired slobin finally lost monolithic terms framed question instead terms thinking speaking least one kind thinking thinking much mercy forms categories language per whorf tell students way get bottom whorf say read essays _ language thought reality _ perhaps thoughts guideline figure whether sapir whorf hypothesis smokescreen makes sense