text_combined: hudibras uppgzizrgmailcom el lun 18022008 las 0852 1300 scott newton escribió fyi monday 18 february 2008 081218 hudibras wrote kde4 new desktop things take time develop well point clearly forums web sites people know kde3 starting hit road blocks due nature underlying code decision made rewrite underlying libraries kde4 create framework build better kde example plasma desktop framework phonon soundmedia framework qt taken qt though still developed kde repository solid hardware detection system based dbus dbus replaces dcop plus others still development decibel realtime communications framework nepomuk semantic desktop framework akonadi storage query service framework pim data 40 released felt underlying libraries stable enough terms apis changing developers build applications upon backward compatible part ensure kde3 applications would still run kde4 kde4 versions koffice kontact due stable release kde 41 currently set july hope helps yes thanks information reinforces opinion release kde4 intented new desktop soon mind specific applications fails issues generally speaking feeling finished yet many work left new things still development speak completely made would dday meanwhile wait hope understand mean thanks cheers aop regards scott newton wed 06 aug 2008 165540 0100 opensuse kde4