text_combined: phillip j eby moetelecommunitycom quick summary im definitely fine simpler purebootstrap module theres consensus go wish couldve discussion last year osaf still able fund work 0613 pm 3162008 0500 guido van rossum wrote phillip asked give opinion pkg_resources pep pep short sweet pkg_resources module huge 1800 nonblank lines 16 classes plus 5 exceptions exports 67 names total according __all__ pkg_resourcestxt another 1700 lines documentation find hard swallow anyone besides phillip claim understands module bob ippolito actually wrote first version pkg_resources others philip jenvey jython project provided patches previous discussions distutilssig know jim fulton indepth knowledge pkg_resources easy_install course thats guys volunteering maintainers inclusion really meant bootstrap simplify installing package management solutions pep claims would prefer see something much smaller footprint actually pep says pkg_resources module used find manage python packageversion dependencies access bundled files resources including inside zipped egg files currently pkg_resources available installing entire setuptools distribution depend part setuptools effect comprises entire runtime support library python eggs independently useful kind glosses part also runtime support projects use eggs days well almost large python project chandler enthought zope surely need example support c extensions inside zip files part bootstrap module runtime pep actually merely proposes addition made support bootstrapping also otherwise pep would even shorter reason proposed way simplicity politics currently people using setuptools setuppy include similar bootstrap module download setuptools available pkg_resources already version checking logic everything needed find dependencies download plus figured itd easier use already stable rather creating something different simplicity part politics part 1 thought would less controversial include runtime eggs include something thats bootstrapper setuptools however mvl surprised actually favor including setuptools bootstrapper 2 thought would broader acceptance oriented towards bootstrapping package setuptools consensus would better module bootstrap installs purepython eggs pypi im totally fine unless find someone besides phillip interested included willing help maintain dont really think would wise accept standard library phillip pep mention several package management tools also like use pkg_resources maybe get folks tools speak explain pkg_resources means maybe even volunteer coown standard library distutilssig de facto place discussions regarding tools ive ccd hopefully one volunteers step want _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 073421 0400 pythondev pep 365 adding pkg_resources module