text_combined: paul moore vlasdutgmailcom 20032008 zooko wrote mar 19 2008 323 pm guido van rossum wrote people want chime please dialog phillip might incorrectly assume nobody besides phillip really cares really care ive used setuptools easy_install eggs pkg_resources extensively past year contributed small patches plenty problems find overall useful tools ill chime really want like setuptoolseasy_install dont ill try specific reasons hope addressed know known one metadislikes setuptools known issues never seem get addressed know patches accepted havent got time either 1 integration system packager windows case easy_install nose nose show addremove programs significantly affects way manage pc 2 uninstaller easy_install nose get rid later searching files delete even obviously named ones good enough 3 pkg_resources documentation particular thats one ive tried follow extremely hard read partly style partly couched unfamiliar terms distributions working sets interfaces providers etc also huge tutorial style overview supported api detail would far better 4 hard use limited connectivity work access internet via internet explorer ms based proxy workarounds ultimately download installer run far simpler approach 5 autodiscovery doesnt always work im sorry really cant recall example moment sometimes easy_install says cant find package know available 6 splitting community windows users rely heavily binary installers least starting get situation projects provide egg files provide traditional bdist_wininstbdist_msi installers bad one way problems solved problem seeing features setuptools added standard library resource apis pluginentry point apis ways create executable scripts things standardised dependency resolution automatic installation isnt something like probably windows user ive never used system mistrust works system dont mind hope helps paul _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 162553 0000 pythondev pep 365 adding pkg_resources module