text_combined: mike meyer tlfmiredorg fri 02 may 2008 000324 0000 apbrcdivmodcom wrote 1145 pm hoaufpythonorg wrote like except one issue really dont like local directory dont see compelling reason needs locallib imo lib theres need hide view especially since user expected manage explicitly ive previously given spirited defense local list httpmailpythonorgpipermailpythondev2008january076173html among places briefly lib directory participating convention youve also got full complement stuff might go installation like usrlocal lib might annoy little bin etc games include lib lib32 man sbin share src going get ugly pretty fast especially comes finder nautilus explorer every time open window problem 10 directories well ok top clutter normally get yeah might object hand every application used 10 directories 10 directories files needed werent usercreated data would heaven fallacy youre falling users never deal dotfiles directories one common operations trying diagnose misbehaving application delete configuration files favorite fix gnucash printing failures deleting cups config files user figure magic files need deleted youre using finder wind turning preference says show suddenly nice clean directory explodes well heres home directory shared mac unix box mbookfbsd cd mbookfbsd ls wc l 42 mbookfbsd ls wc l 174 clean mac got directories mac felt needed really use theres maybe dozen files scratch files various things havent cleaned yet course dotfiles much worse normally dont see theres incentive clean could trade 172 cant lose hidden files 10 visible directories id instant even didnt already bin etc src lib directories put another way trivial make locallib show symlinking lib cant make lib disappear lots software ends looking record equally trivial better make local disappear symlinking local providing option even cleaner fact cant use symlink hide one moot far im concerned local worst possible choice choice name wind cluttered two name spaces doesnt tell anything applications belongs worry pretty much every time im mucking config files python would much better least id know name httpwwwmiredorgconsultinghtml independent networkunixperforce consultant email information ascii ribbon campaign stop html mail wwwasciiribbonorg _______________________________________________ pythondev mailing list zvlllneumpythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythondev unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspythondevpythondev40tangomucom fri 08 aug 2008 090631 0400 pythondev python3000 reminder last alphas next wednesday 07may2008