text_combined: rafael garciasuarez pvhuhqgncrxnugmailcom 11102007 andy lester wrote dont understand eagerness people disapprove projects others kurila complete worthless waste time bother anyone kurila doesnt bother existence im bothered trolling generates id prefer seeing moved another mailing list perl 5 another open source project say think perl 5 pumpking kurila takes problem wrong end perl 5s codebase basically whats wrong perl 5 lack extensibility solve lack extensibility problem reorthogonalisation syntax needed removing bits syntax help fact prototypes nightmare exceptions badly integrated runtime type checking via ref broken qr implemented cumbersome way implementation magic riddled special cases things need complete rethinking hence perl 6 perl 6 effort driven language design syntax changes kurila read last announcement driven internal refactoring juggling problems mentioned solved least softened reimplementations new features got 510 directly designed meet goal _ prototype example allows fully mimic builtins impossible 58 could mention lexical _ work progress basically try improve perl additions yes avoiding bloatware hard goal let perl 5 backwardscompatible want throw away backwardscompatibility right take problem roots basic syntax go perl6language dont like perl 6 invent new language work perl 5 believe dead devoted countless hours cft perl 5 begin vision could done ensure continue alive time without collapsing defects things hard grasp want cpan still works future perl 5s wasnt planning pass blead pumpkin anyone however im benevolent dictator life theres public disagreement ive done much time 510 much attention given backwards compatibility obscure platforms id happy leave take vacations postulate php job almost code freeze time change yes 510 taken time ive clearer idea perl 5 could become hope future stable release 52n go faster eric wilhelm puts httpsearchcpanorgdistlambda lets use lambda character alias sub people sneer tell go acme namespace theres shoulds cpan organization matter andy skud create perlbuzzcom people say well already useperlorg need site completely fail see common point kurila 1 amusing syntactic sugar module 2 nice news site read daily 3 incompatible perl 5 fork wish people would let others play quietly actively encourage instead taking shit projects might liking couldnt say better hence suggestion separate mailing list kurila beginning lenghty email apologies harsh dont often feeling say mind wed 06 aug 2008 092528 0200 kurila 13 released