text_combined: mike klaas xdihqxzrsgmailcom 2apr08 333 pm jason orendorff wrote wed apr 2 2008 508 pm mike klaas wrote majority cases would work fine views input sorted etc suppose majority means 36 46 cases youre saying write items without thinking theres 3 chance wont work 10 339 cases forgive fact youve gotten 3 eg making items return view instead iterator doesnt make terrifically happy apologize wasnt trying make point programmers used old behaviour continue willynilly using without worrying consequences yes programmers learn new behaviour among subtleties new language suspect mentioned prominently every python 3k 2x programmers tutorial 2to3 handle translation safely suspect cases fail quietly either l dkeys lsort exception l0 exception etc may examples like sliceability mike _______________________________________________ python3000 mailing list smsbmo9552pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopython3000 unsubscribe httpmailpythonorgmailmanoptionspython3000python300040tangomucom wed 06 aug 2008 231417 0700 python3000 spooky behavior dictitems friends