text_combined: aaron kulkis cmiqlkx91hotpopcom kai ponte wrote wednesday 13 february 2008 105611 pm alexey eremenko wrote 110 build going default alphastage pile give newbies dont know better totally horrible impression suse linux youre software developer im beta tester correct kde4 works like alpha version comment made aaron 11 alpha version behaves exactly would expect see reason bashing developers product hasnt even released yet im bashing kde devs im saying anyone expect turn kde 4 alphalevel release quality time suses 110 decision date first week april completely unrealistic far know kde fulltime devs payroll means devs something else earn paycheck day software development since 79 professionally since 93 know path one takes put version call alpha beta rcx whatever test crap get something workable hopefully novell suse devs worked time rc1 comes around time looking alpha code expected bugs interaction issues even though kde 40 exactly part development process released weve yet see kde 40 final opensuse 110 alpha versions interaction issues may may able complete release time oft stated theyll make decision go forward month ill first start flamefest application doesnt work way zypper 100 beagle example theres basis making gripes releasing buggy alpha software since expected buggy point going productionready desktop suse 110 decision date april 7th problem including unless miracle occurs wise choice make default kde desktop kde 3 else youre going burn lot firsttime users either trust suse coming another distro trust linux period coming windows aaron dont like 110a2 works get yerselves factory mailing lists httpenopensuseorgcommunicatemailinglistsdevelopment_lists start discussing help effort long since ive programmed anything sort size would end introducing problems solved tue 05 aug 2008 122559 0500 opensuse opensuse 110 nonready kde4