text_combined: tim roberts eqemprobocom marlin rowley wrote want start beginning work way maybe ill see things didnt lets start frame window creation right pass resolution script rfxrenderviewpy 320 240 lets say 320x240 expect resolution window drawn upon frame includes widgets however exactly happening problem call frames constructor child frame pass size window comes relatively size want however drawing window little less menu bar pass size frame window gets created 320x240 frame builds around actually size framewindow 320x240 vocabulary window size includes decorations client region yes specify size includes decorations want specify size client region cant directly although possible compute size decorations tedious process possibility themes edges vary end fetching whole bunch system preferences values easiest solution fetch assigned window size assigned client size compute difference adjust accordingly example try adding following create wxframe ws selfgetsize cs selfgetclientsize bump window size delta two wsincby wscs selfsetsize ws tim roberts eqemprobocom providenza boekelheide inc _______________________________________________ pythonwin32 mailing list kpitckaew45pythonorg httpmailpythonorgmailmanlistinfopythonwin32 thu 07 aug 2008 182448 0700 pythonwin32 wxpythonusers problems wxpython help