text_combined: owen byrne owenpermafrostnet r hettinga wrote begin pgp signed message hash sha1 1115 0400 92202 geege schuman wrote seem ivy league educations ivy league dropouts suggesting werent exactly poor start actually remember correctly discussion lists composition forbes five six years ago best way get forbes 400 college say bootstraps boys girls knew could sure discussion forbes rigorous research especially data list contradicts continue look list inherited growed entries guess read enough times vision clear given undergraduate liberal arts degree state school like say mine nothing stuff taught governmentrun high school youll probably get forbes 400 well time goes ever get around good old fashioned governmentcollapsing transferpayment depression economic version summers governmentforest conflagration caused kind innumeracy clearcutting enough forests west summer motivate erstslackers including learn actually feed next category forbes 400 list someone terminal professional degree like mba phd md etc best school possible 1950 best way get harvard instance smart rich dont take word ask admissions office look admissions stats years proof point looked stanford business school learning tuition 20k financial aid available parttime work disallowed smart person decided willing spend 150 application fee nonrefundable attendance local business school told repeatedly gone quote prof northwestern mba nothing education receive general european canadian business schools better innovative connections used words american nobility meritocracy american style invented ivy league world war ii even stanford got hint course chicago taught right practically nobody goes top20 american institution higher learning actually afford go days unless course parents couldnt afford go got terminal degrees last 40 years kids still get grades biased intelligence test scores get invented right word dubya went yale hbs guess practically gets around problem bizarre irony almost people terminal degrees actually something hire people learn make something living day profit loss basis persist practically insane belief like life death economics kind zero sum game dumb people dont work hard make money someone smart works hard rich stole wealth somehow btw none guys holding short end rhetorical stick blame fact im using beat severely collective head shoulders apparently dumb grab right end went missouri dont degree anything actually useful much less terminal one means im broker anyone list people lots educations far surpassing plain know better facts speak open eyes look epicycles universe orbit earth economics zerosum game cost anything including ignorance destitution forgone alternative case intelligence effort however admit educated waay past level competence way discuss economics apparently interesting part world nova scotia recent study found college graduates earn less graduates 2 year community colleges trade schools decline mention demand trades great demanding university degrees get record average salary university graduate including advanced degree holders c 21000 14000 us wonder half san francisco set whole whack call centers arrived last couple years think hire entry level people around 10 6 us hour course fits perfectly entry level job 1986 paid 1100 hour fundamental difference jobs require trade unionizedin words part world vast majority people union dues better investment tuition counterargument many college graduates leave better work elsewhere countercounter argument thin edge one several really prison labor us would another thirdworld wages work practices coming north america worked company 14year wage freeze fact could maintain prosper says volumes economy part world met many people like felt fine vote feet didnt quite realize every large employer area similar worse policies anyway eventually started union drive vote retired employees brought employer rumours paid going rate vote around bottle rum somehow allowed vote union filed grievance denied minister labour hey guess used vp company thats free labor markets work business continues prosper told cash cow long joa joint operating agreement competing paper place think wonderful american companies freeenterprise belief competing best talent going anything sorry received generous subsidies return im sure understanding labor markets btw ever actually free markets country including abolition redistributive income death taxes smart people forbes 400 would money would selfmade people list addition people inherited money list would much less even relatively speaking finally practically new money would come economic efficiency stolen someone else investment bubbles efficiency called progress peoples republics berkeley cambridge means better stuff cheaper time terrible petitbourgeois concept apparently worthy teaching educational elite youd know economic terms also called increase general welfare virginia im talking extorting money someone works giving someone doesnt order keep working think politician santa claus come election time much like accept say believe free markets difficulty finding except course labor markets governments go great lengths protect well unless supply tight great run technology industry producing selfmade billionaires list weve got governmentsponsored monopoly concept stuff cheaper always promised seems disappearing particularly galling example highspeed internet access article read couple years ago area pricing approaches industry cheaper better die telecom industry maintain monopoly regulation get guaranteed price increases regulators meet sadly say telecom industry seems whole entertainment industryriaapalladium thing seems another instance actually giving value customer seems less important using regulation reduce competition substitute products order produce profits favored short economics zero sum game property theft rich dont get rich backs poor redistributionist labor theory value happy horseshit horseshit happy otherwise believe otherwise quite literally given time marx wrote capital manifesto romantic nonsense usually agree theres republican office feel like theyre biggest believers manifesto reverse create reserve pool labor reduce rights proletariat youve created bogus law order policies concentrate capital hands ideally people get reelected economy take care oh lie use word compassionate lot guess tend believe certain amount poverty reduction actually helps modern capitalist state basic economic tenet republic party seems homeless overpass efficient rest us facts people western world declining standards living declining benefits disappearing social safety net greater working hours essentially since entrance women work force blaming women way right work 2 wageearners family still declining standards living reality quote wonderfully liberal document keep coming back cia world factbook us economy since 1975 practically gains household income gone top 20 households owen mon 23 sep 2002 133416 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