text_combined: eugen leitl eugenleitlorg sun 11 aug 2002 russell turpin wrote rogue app machine keeps sniffing passphrase one reasons keep harping need long os doesnt give convenient getpassphrase method threat model theoretical worms autonomous autonomous worms smart however thats reason mentioned crypto hardware usb fobs smart cards etc thin secure clients good idea concept security holistic involves secure os secure apps crypto hardware read email want respond email means using digital signature needs ready believe mentioned users cant bothered enter passphrases thats tokens point expect convenient usb port keyboard video device front meanwhile net pc server sitting crt front usb ports httpxentcommailmanlistinfofork sun 11 aug 2002 202718 0200 cest forged whitelist spam