text_combined: cahill conor p eomqplcwyrpvintelcom said think correct reading current core spec interpretations wrong preamble section 272 element describes statement saml authority asserting assertion subject authenticated particular means particular time description authninstant attribute specifies time authentication took place dont think leaves much deploymentimplementation interpretation conor original message tom scavo mailtomkjirtzgmailcom sent monday february 11 2008 457 pm cahill conor p cc scott cantor saml developers subject samldev value authninstant makes total sense conor words could considered errata think tom feb 11 2008 420 pm cahill conor p wrote yes cookie could considered form authentication however idp says ac user presented usernamepassword authninstant took place session cookie presented idp yes authncontext says got cookie authninstant match issueinstant conor unsubscribe email zwuiopcitsxkbbpazwlistsoasisopenorg additional commands email rnzpzqvxvvklistsoasisopenorg tue 05 aug 2008 182011 0800 samldev value authninstant