MR ARCHER: Just so that I understand, are those costs that are related to administrative government costs, or are they costs that might be borne by individuals working within this industry or companies? MR COPPEL: Both. MR ARCHER: It sounds like they might be more government right, – okay. MR COPPEL: Both. Yes, I - - - MR ARCHER: MR COPPEL: Companies and consumers and also in of the administrative agency, in our case IP Australia. MR ARCHER: Yes. Look, I understand that the net benefit the – Australian government is responsible for understanding the net benefit and our terms of trade in terms of IP protections. Of course, we import a lot of material and that includes a lot of IP, so looser copyright and looser IP protection mean that Australian companies are able to get into the market easier. But I really think that we should be encouraging the development of new work in Australia that can then be exported. Without something like The Hague Agreement it sounds like exporting new work and encouraging new work out of Australia might be difficult, particularly in the longer term. MR COPPEL: Yes. MS CHESTER: Tomek, we didn’t have any other questions for you this afternoon. But thank you for being able to join us again for our hearings. We’ve got a couple of other participants we need to hear from this afternoon. So we might bid you farewell. MR ARCHER: Thank you very much for your time. MS CHESTER: Thank you. MR COPPEL: Thank you. Good afternoon. Bye. MR ARCHER: MS CHESTER: Bye. MR COPPEL: The remaining people are all by phone.
MR ARCHER: Just so that I understand, are those costs that are related to administrative government costs, or are they costs that might be borne by individuals working within this industry or companies? MR COPPEL: Both. MR ARCHER: It sounds like they might be more government – right, okay. MR COPPEL: Both. MR ARCHER: Yes, I - - - MR COPPEL: Companies and consumers and also in of the administrative agency, in our case IP Australia. MR ARCHER: Yes. Look, I understand that the net benefit – the Australian government is responsible for understanding the net benefit and our terms of trade in terms of IP protections. Of course, we import a lot of material and that includes a lot of IP, so looser copyright and looser IP protection mean that Australian companies are able to get into the market easier. But I really think that we should be encouraging the development of new work in Australia that can then be exported. Without something like The Hague Agreement it sounds like exporting new work and encouraging new work out of Australia might be difficult, particularly in the longer term. MR COPPEL: Yes. MS CHESTER: Tomek, we didn’t have any other questions for you this afternoon. But thank you for being able to join us again for our hearings. We’ve got a couple of other participants we need to hear from this afternoon. So we might bid you farewell. MR ARCHER: Thank you very much for your time. MS CHESTER: Thank you. MR COPPEL: Thank you. MR ARCHER: Good afternoon. Bye. MS CHESTER: Bye. MR COPPEL: The remaining people are all by phone.
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