Back to the initial point I made about a transdisciplinary approach, there are disciplines outside of the current safety space that have a great deal of value to add. not being engaged. They’re Dr Miller: And what are some of those Robert? Dr Long: Well mostly things in a social science area. Dr Miller: So going to loop you back to something you said at the beginning I’m of the conversation about safety, the challenge for safety professionals is to move outside their own disciplines during their training. So is that a final challenge that be setting us all? you’d Dr Long: Yes. I would have a careful look at the curriculum, and I would argue for some major reforms in the curriculum. Dr Miller: To make people look at other disciplines and the evidence that they can bring. Dr Long: Just go to any curriculum anywhere in risk and safety, University degree, diploma, whatever it is, and just do a little mathematical exercise and ask yourself how much of the time is committed to a mechanistic discipline rather than a social science or a humanistic discipline or a humanistic focus. And yet the moment a safety person leaves that training and gets out into the workforce, 99 percent of what they do is trying to engage with people. And they get frustrated because they know how to do it well. don’t Dr Miller: So it comes back to the communication. going to open it to our I’m visitors in the room. Ms Pryor: So Rob bringing your psychology approach how do we get these people, who you quite rightly say are in their silos, to actually get to be open minded and talk to each other? And then as you quite reasonably say, how do we draw out the strengths of all of those to something integrated and not lose the good things but put the other things that’s aside? I really like your comment about got to be evidence based we’ve and got to look to the research. I see part of the problem is these we’ve people do their research, but they only do their research in their area interested in. Have you got any suggestions about at this they’re – level of the people that are…
Back to the initial point I made about a transdisciplinary approach, there are disciplines outside of the current safety space that have a great deal of value to add. They’re not being engaged. Dr Miller: And what are some of those Robert? Dr Long: Well mostly things in a social science area. Dr Miller: So I’m going to loop you back to something you said at the beginning of the conversation about safety, the challenge for safety professionals is to move outside their own disciplines during their training. So is that a final challenge that you’d be setting us all? Dr Long: Yes. I would have a careful look at the curriculum, and I would argue for some major reforms in the curriculum. Dr Miller: To make people look at other disciplines and the evidence that they can bring. Dr Long: Just go to any curriculum anywhere in risk and safety, University degree, diploma, whatever it is, and just do a little mathematical exercise and ask yourself how much of the time is committed to a mechanistic discipline rather than a social science or a humanistic discipline or a humanistic focus. And yet the moment a safety person leaves that training and gets out into the workforce, 99 percent of what they do is trying to engage with people. And they get frustrated because they don’t know how to do it well. Dr Miller: So it comes back to the communication. I’m going to open it to our visitors in the room. Ms Pryor: So Rob bringing your psychology approach how do we get these people, who you quite rightly say are in their silos, to actually get to be open minded and talk to each other? And then as you quite reasonably say, how do we draw out the strengths of all of those to something that’s integrated and not lose the good things but put the other things aside? I really like your comment about we’ve got to be evidence based and we’ve got to look to the research. I see part of the problem is these people do their research, but they only do their research in their area they’re interested in. Have you got any suggestions about – at this level of the people that are…
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