Yes, belongs to Tjilpatha [site 1], old Dad’s. And Jimmy, heard that one, he told you he heard he’s something? Yes, Jimmy says that too. Like all our family spirit come back to us. And is that related to the dead people in the country? Yes. Dead people there in Tjilpatha [site 1], all around and Pirlakaya [site11]. You just go there you know, like family, you can hear them old people singing. And does that mean that you Wangkangurru mob have got to look after that country? Yes, got to look after that. Is that all of you or just one person? Oh, all of us, like Wangkangurru goes out there, as long as we get a car to go out there and look after. I like to get back to Pirlakaya, my old grandfather way and my aunty. See, staying in Birdsville there, we’re had no car, nothing. We get around to go and see can’t them family like now. Valerie Fuschtei added that Don Rowlands had same experience as Jimmy, because they both camped together. She said that they go out a lot together to the desert and to the question answered “Yes” that is happening to them on other times “And too?” 4.8.20 The following exchange with counsel for the claimants then took place: Linda Crombie: I believe my spirit and family spirit, I believe that. Do you believe that, Valerie? Valerie Fuschtei: Yes. Oh, yes, myself, got to believe it. And connected to your relationship with the country? that’s Linda Crombie: right. That’s
Yes, belongs to Tjilpatha [site 1], old Dad’s. And Jimmy, he’s heard that one, he told you he heard something? Yes, Jimmy says that too. Like all our family spirit come back to us. And is that related to the dead people in the country? Yes. Dead people there in Tjilpatha [site 1], all around and Pirlakaya [site11]. You just go there you know, like family, you can hear them old people singing. And does that mean that you Wangkangurru mob have got to look after that country? Yes, got to look after that. Is that all of you or just one person? Oh, all of us, like Wangkangurru goes out there, as long as we get a car to go out there and look after. I like to get back to Pirlakaya, my old grandfather way and my aunty. See, we’re staying in Birdsville there, had no car, nothing. We can’t get around to go and see them family like now. Valerie Fuschtei added that Don Rowlands had same experience as Jimmy, because they both camped together. She said that they go out a lot together to the desert and answered “Yes” to the question “And that is happening to them on other times too?” 4.8.20 The following exchange with counsel for the claimants then took place: Linda Crombie: I believe my spirit and family spirit, I believe that. Do you believe that, Valerie? Valerie Fuschtei: Yes. Oh, yes, myself, got to believe it. And that’s connected to your relationship with the country? Linda Crombie: That’s right.
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