Tim different of physio, does not cost more to go to the Alex on the NHS – Mike is it cast iron that if providers don’t pass quality hurdles they do not get anywhere? – Tim look at : Is it Safe? Is it delivering every standard? - Stepping Hill never meets this. – And How can we reward excellence rare.. If one CCG in the country says a service is safe – then that provider cannot be excluded under Any Qualified Provider rules Working with the local authority, they look at things differently, where can cut costs? CCG – can’t do that as it is peoples lives. Never clear cut on cost. Eg IVF not life threatening or can patients only have one knee done in a lifetime? Has been considered Jacky cost effective to have counsellors in GP practices eg as in Blackpool – Tim wants a pilot based in a few practices – Will Stockport lose influence with DevoManc? The CCG is told what to do by NHS England. Manchester will now tell the CCG what to do. The decision making powers will be local which is a positive Downside less decision making happens, some decisions will now be made at GM level – instead of in Stockport. Dr Gill and Gaynor Mullins are trying to prevent this Stockport population is ageing so need to invest in things like dementia, GM wide people are dying of cardiovascular disease, if Manchester says have to concentrate on this then have to even if not a major problem in Stockport. Stockport cannot veto board decisions. There are different priorities in different areas Paul concerned about this, the government devolved this and it is not necessarily for good – practice. Important that the CCG keeps looking at quality Mike how much annually do the CCG pay on procurement? – Tim 2% of budget on everyday work ( £6 million), need procurement experts. Working – hard not to have many lawyers and consultants as advice is over valued Sheila Stepping Hill saved”, guaranteed ED department and acute surgery – “ Healthier Together oversold it fuss about nothing – Tim evidence that specialist centres work eg Salford and the MRI have top level trauma – centres. No plans to reduce ED departments
Tim – different of physio, does not cost more to go to the Alex on the NHS Mike – is it cast iron that if providers don’t pass quality hurdles they do not get anywhere? Tim – look at : Is it Safe? Is it delivering every standard? - Stepping Hill never meets this. And How can we reward excellence – rare.. If one CCG in the country says a service is safe then that provider cannot be excluded under Any Qualified Provider rules Working with the local authority, they look at things differently, where can cut costs? CCG – can’t do that as it is peoples lives. Never clear cut on cost. Eg IVF not life threatening or can patients only have one knee done in a lifetime? Has been considered Jacky – cost effective to have counsellors in GP practices eg as in Blackpool Tim – wants a pilot based in a few practices Will Stockport lose influence with DevoManc? The CCG is told what to do by NHS England. Manchester will now tell the CCG what to do. The decision making powers will be local which is a positive Downside – less decision making happens, some decisions will now be made at GM level instead of in Stockport. Dr Gill and Gaynor Mullins are trying to prevent this Stockport population is ageing so need to invest in things like dementia, GM wide people are dying of cardiovascular disease, if Manchester says have to concentrate on this then have to even if not a major problem in Stockport. Stockport cannot veto board decisions. There are different priorities in different areas Paul – concerned about this, the government devolved this and it is not necessarily for good practice. Important that the CCG keeps looking at quality Mike – how much annually do the CCG pay on procurement? Tim – 2% of budget on everyday work ( £6 million), need procurement experts. Working hard not to have many lawyers and consultants as advice is over valued Sheila – Stepping Hill “ saved”, guaranteed ED department and acute surgery Healthier Together oversold it – fuss about nothing Tim – evidence that specialist centres work eg Salford and the MRI have top level trauma centres. No plans to reduce ED departments
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