them an opportunity to talk and see if they have an idea of who would prefer to be the negotiator versus the alternate and see if they can come up with something and make a recommendation to you all that we could vote on. Daniel? Mr. Elkins: We would just like to know -- I couldn't see who put their thumb down, and then their reason why. Mr. Ramirez: Okay. Participant: Sure, I -- the reason I -- I did that -- when I consider the institutions that they represent, both Joan and Thelma have considerable experience with gainful employment reporting and have -- and -- and whereas the other gentleman's institution has only doctorate graduates, and therefore hasn't really been involved in the intricacies and details and minutia of managing gainful employment. And therefore I felt that -- if we're -- when we're looking at candidates to contribute significantly to this process, that either one of the other two candidates have experience, have done it, and would -- should provide good -- good help. Participant: Chris, did you have something that you wanted to share? Mr. Madaio: Yes, you. Chris Madaio. I guess, you know, first -- and you know, I hate to go back on the three people again, I mean is it possible not to have two alternates? It seems like they're three qualified people. Dr. Pierre, I mean, is involved with the school itself as compared to a financial aid officer. I think he is extremely qualified. You know, we have three good people. It like -- you know, it's very difficult to -- you know, because of consensus to have one individual, you know, control the process, it feels like. I am a little disappointed by, I guess, the process we just took. I might have voted differently, you know, if -- I guess -- know it could have ended like that. Perhaps I'd like to -- I know I maybe can't change
them an opportunity to talk and see if they have an idea of who would prefer to be the negotiator versus the alternate and see if they can come up with something and make a recommendation to you all that we could vote on. Daniel? Mr. Elkins: We would just like to know -- I couldn't see who put their thumb down, and then their reason why. Mr. Ramirez: Okay. Participant: Sure, I -- the reason I -- I did that -- when I consider the institutions that they represent, both Joan and Thelma have considerable experience with gainful employment reporting and have -- and -- and whereas the other gentleman's institution has only doctorate graduates, and therefore hasn't really been involved in the intricacies and details and minutia of managing gainful employment. And therefore I felt that -- if we're -- when we're looking at candidates to contribute significantly to this process, that either one of the other two candidates have experience, have done it, and would -- should provide good -- good help. Participant: Chris, did you have something that you wanted to share? Mr. Madaio: Yes, you. Chris Madaio. I guess, you know, first -- and you know, I hate to go back on the three people again, I mean is it possible not to have two alternates? It seems like they're three qualified people. Dr. Pierre, I mean, is involved with the school itself as compared to a financial aid officer. I think he is extremely qualified. You know, we have three good people. It like -- you know, it's very difficult to -- you know, because of consensus to have one individual, you know, control the process, it feels like. I am a little disappointed by, I guess, the process we just took. I might have voted differently, you know, if -- I guess -- know it could have ended like that. Perhaps I'd like to -- I know I maybe can't change
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