N They do computer course and things like that so you have to get referred by Debbie, so she filled in the forms when she came T It rang a bell in my head and I thought is that N in a place down road It’s T Right, so what things are you going to do then? N I want to do computing, learn about computers and do graphics and things like that, tying it in with the artwork T fantastic. Have you ever thought about publishing all your artwork in a book That’s and writing about your experiences and stuff? N No, no never thought about that, I think be able to do it, I know. I’ve don’t I’d don’t T sure somebody like yourself, to me, the stuff got there, even just I’m you’ve describing the drawings and the paintings, to me something that be able that’s you’d to do, talented enough to do it you’re T reading diary ……………………… T Does it bother you now talking about the things got in your diary, about you’ve when you were arrested and stuff, does that bother you or can you see N never really talked about me being arrested, no-one mentions it so when I talk I’ve about it, it have happened, so I get a bit wound up it I think shouldn’t T Does it help avoiding not talking about it or does it help talking about it or N I think best to it, cos you just end up bottling it all up, you? it’s isn’t don’t T Well, I think, again, not for me to interfere with going on, I can offer my it’s what’s opinion but I think if you look at the way challenged the back window and you’ve walking down the drive it says that you can take steps forward by doing that and I think what done is challenged those things and actually you’ve you’ve you’ve moved forward N I have put it off though, like walking down the drive T Hopefully it me that triggered it, be telling Debbie , be getting into wasn’t don’t I’ll bother T your son? Is he in bed? How’s N awake, just upstairs on the computer, and I said be here soon so he He’s he’s you’d stayed up there T And your sleep pattern? Is your sleep pattern good, bad? how’s
N They do computer course and things like that so you have to get referred by Debbie, so she filled in the forms when she came T It rang a bell in my head and I thought is that N It’s in a place down road T Right, so what things are you going to do then? N I want to do computing, learn about computers and do graphics and things like that, tying it in with the artwork T That’s fantastic. Have you ever thought about publishing all your artwork in a book and writing about your experiences and stuff? N No, no I’ve never thought about that, I don’t think I’d be able to do it, I don’t know. T I’m sure somebody like yourself, to me, the stuff you’ve got there, even just describing the drawings and the paintings, to me that’s something that you’d be able to do, you’re talented enough to do it T reading diary ……………………… T Does it bother you now talking about the things you’ve got in your diary, about when you were arrested and stuff, does that bother you or can you see N I’ve never really talked about me being arrested, no-one mentions it so when I talk about it, it shouldn’t have happened, so I get a bit wound up it I think T Does it help avoiding not talking about it or does it help talking about it or N I think it’s best to isn’t it, cos you just end up bottling it all up, don’t you? T Well, I think, again, it’s not for me to interfere with what’s going on, I can offer my opinion but I think if you look at the way you’ve challenged the back window and walking down the drive it says that you can take steps forward by doing that and I think what you’ve done is you’ve challenged those things and you’ve actually moved forward N I have put it off though, like walking down the drive T Hopefully it wasn’t me that triggered it, don’t be telling Debbie , I’ll be getting into bother T How’s your son? Is he in bed? N He’s awake, he’s just upstairs on the computer, and I said you’d be here soon so he stayed up there T And how’s your sleep pattern? Is your sleep pattern good, bad?