1 people won't come because they know there's a danger 2 they're going to get tapped on the shoulder to take on 3 a position. If you advertise it just as a meeting 4 where you're going to discuss something, people will 5 come along. 6 So, I really don't know what the answer is, but 7 somehow or other we've got to try and involve a lot 8 more people in the discussion. 9 MR ROZEN: Kellie? 10 CR O'CALLAGHAN: I'm happy to jump in. I think we start at, 11 yes, and we work out the how. I think we immediately 12 take a defensive position of not enough and 13 insufficient resourcing and it's all too hard. I think 14 the other thing; we take it personally, and I know, 15 gee, I've done it on more than one occasion; you 16 immediately take the question or the suggestion as an 17 attack on the basis of what you're doing now as being 18 inadequate, so therefore you jump to the no. 19 I think if we start at the yes, but I don't know 20 how, and then have that conversation and work out the 21 how from that, we're probably going to be communicating 22 a little bit more effectively. So, I think rather than 23 discouraging people from bringing ideas to the table, 24 start at yes, acknowledge I'm hearing you; all right, 25 now how are we going to do this, because I'm not really 26 clear of how we're going to make that happen. 27 The other thing I think we need to do is 28 understand we're just the custodians of the health 29 services we're operating, and we need to be respectful 30 of that. We are here effectively for a very short 31 period of time and we'll make certain changes and we'll
1 people won't come because they know there's a danger 2 they're going to get tapped on the shoulder to take on 3 a position. If you advertise it just as a meeting 4 where you're going to discuss something, people will 5 come along. 6 So, I really don't know what the answer is, but 7 somehow or other we've got to try and involve a lot 8 more people in the discussion. 9 MR ROZEN: Kellie? 10 CR O'CALLAGHAN: I'm happy to jump in. I think we start at, 11 yes, and we work out the how. I think we immediately 12 take a defensive position of not enough and 13 insufficient resourcing and it's all too hard. I think 14 the other thing; we take it personally, and I know, 15 gee, I've done it on more than one occasion; you 16 immediately take the question or the suggestion as an 17 attack on the basis of what you're doing now as being 18 inadequate, so therefore you jump to the no. 19 I think if we start at the yes, but I don't know 20 how, and then have that conversation and work out the 21 how from that, we're probably going to be communicating 22 a little bit more effectively. So, I think rather than 23 discouraging people from bringing ideas to the table, 24 start at yes, acknowledge I'm hearing you; all right, 25 now how are we going to do this, because I'm not really 26 clear of how we're going to make that happen. 27 The other thing I think we need to do is 28 understand we're just the custodians of the health 29 services we're operating, and we need to be respectful 30 of that. We are here effectively for a very short 31 period of time and we'll make certain changes and we'll