On one occasion he took a visiting porcelain expert from mainland China to look at these pieces, but try as he might, he could not get the other man to believe that they came from "prim" China.
他有一回帶一位中國大陸來訪的瓷器專家，參觀荷蘭國立博物院收藏的外銷訂燒瓷，對方就說什麼也不肯相信它們來自中國。