but it's not  television,i i it's, it's doctor who and, and prisoner and, you know  er very  interesting and very easy for enthusiasts to  direct a lot of their time and energy to  maybe i don't  maybe there was a  increased pressure to work and study  which was erm self motivated rather than being externally imposed, maybe he   maybe there was a  fundamental    lack of enthusiasm in him for  what is described as the hardware of computing, the, the, the, the, the instruments, the machines  maybe there was a less than  comprehensive understanding of what is known as the firmware, that's to say i mean  operating systems that are built into the thing to make it work, you've got to understand  the firmware because otherwise you don't understand what the machine will  think you mean and what that will do and  i would have thought that whereas superficially you can ignore the firmware, it's all in there, it understands  as you, i would have thought, grew into a  er a graduate computer scientist you've got to have some idea about that.