erm, i haven't, i was gonna go and, i tried phoning lorne  one time i was going through to glasgow just to see if i could, can i have a, can i have a pint with him or something, erm, just to chew it over cos he suggested you know he'd made various helpful suggestions, in the meantime i didn't manage to meet him, but in the meantime i did manage to speak to my father-in-law who has a camcorder and er he will be more than happy to erm, he's also got editing equipment, he would be more than happy you know, to do the home made video that we've talked about, i need to talk to him about this because the obvious place to do will be the lyceum on one of your shows