starting in the 1880s, the "grand tour" was popular with people visiting the area, called tourists. people could take the talyllyn and corris trains and go through tal-y-llyn lake and cadair idris. then, when they returned, they could use cambrian railways trains. the need for slate slowed down for the last twenty years of the 1880s. many quarries fired people or closed. even the quarries that dug up more slate due to other quarries closing often closed eventually. this made the need for the trains less, and made the railroad companies make less money.