and i talked about a similar idea last week when i mentioned that there were a number of europeans who came to america during the revolution, sometimes because they figured that they could probably impress americans, or certainly impress the continental congress with their experience in formal european warfare, and then they could get a position as an officer easier than they might have been able to obtain it or purchase it back home, and--so that there were a number of europeans coming to this country for that purpose.