er but she's a member and we went there for lunch and it was the ideal place, you know, cos there weren't any, many people around and so we had quite a nice lunch  and erm whilst we were there we then had a drink in er in the bar and erm her  the, the secretary of the club, a lady, came to talk to barbara and she mentioned that she'd seen her on blind date you see, and so i got to know more by listening to them two speaking er and er that's where i learnt about er that.