er, but the interesting, the interesting thing is that they are prepared to pay and yet this obsession  this obsession with this ideology that the only way you can get  you can go forward in in terms of er  placing this this country in any economic status in the way it may have been and er  is is  to privatisation of v a t. chairman i look forward to the day when  when the very air and this has been said for that we breathe  will either be privatised or more important they'll stick a bloody v a t on it.