well i didn't know anything about any none of us knew anything about anybody in those days, cos it was so early on in the, and we weren't, i was influenced more by people like blues er black blues singers, american blues singers like muddy  and lightning , all those old blues,, er they were the heroes for me that i grew up with playing skiffle and and then lonnie became my first lonnie  became by first hero and i er modelled a lot of my early singing on lonnie.