back at cathy's house, she, rufus and chuck get up from the floor. after cathy closes the door, she and rufus argue about the reasons why sylvester almost shot at them in chapter 3, with cathy angered about rufus "creeping" around with chuck, who is the deacon of rufus' church, telling him "ain't no telling what i've got", referring to sexually transmitted diseases. chuck gets angry at this and threatens cathy with a knife, which prompts cathy to force him to do it. rufus then calms them down and tries to resolve the matter but neither cathy or chuck listen, as they continue arguing, even as the phone rings. when it rings a second time, cathy answers it and it is gwendolyn and she begins telling cathy about the drama that had gone on. when gwendolyn mentions that she saw sylvester in paje's club with "some crusty wig-wearing ass ho", cathy realizes the man she had slept with that night was sylvester. when cathy tries telling her who the "ho" was, gwendolyn stops her and tells her more about james and his situation. when an angry rufus demands cathy to finish their conversation, cathy shuts gwendolyn up and tells her she was the "ho" that had been with sylvester.