well i, obviously want to try and attend meetings if and when possible, er i've been to one last week, which basically was er  because i don't feel i'm qualified to get up and  david  got up and spoke very well actually, he was always, at the police not neighbourhood watch, er to do with the cascade telephone system which we found out afterwards, after a three quarters hour debate a man came up to dave afterwards and showed him a memo which said this cascade system has now ceased in november nineteen ninety-two and that was the the abuse on that particular meeting.