the er the honourable gentleman might well have seen a copy of the er  the provisional report which has been prepared but that provisional report is er the same basis as the report er which was presented to er westminster city council er and then we weren't talking er a difficulty of er two million pounds created, created as a direct result of government under funding of the police authority there,we were talking about the expropriation of millions of pounds to line the pockets and to further the political interests of his party and i did notice the honourable gentleman er  vociferous in his condemnation of westminster city council or any of the other tory controlled city councils.