his brother thomas symington carlyon (1866 – 20 october 1925) was amateur champion oarsman of victoria in 1896, kept the criterion hotel, echuca, 1895–1897, then others in ballarat, creswick, spencer street, melbourne, hampton, albert park, hotel victoria, south malbourne and finally the esplanade hotel st. kilda. he is reported as having captained a river murray steamer. he married mary ann (died 1920) carlyon descendants were prominent in melbourne business circles.