i think that the new settlement erm should be as close to york erm city as can be achieved, the erm question of the detailed location er i think is a matter for erm discussion on the basis of the other planning policy guidance erm criteria which i haven't explored terms of the locational criteria, what i was seeking to do in my comments was erm to counter a point which has been made er by the c p r e which refers to new settlements as an engine of growth, now that's not the purpose of this new settlement, it is a response to the needs of meeting greater york, and i don't see any reason why that's less likely to be achieved if it's south south west of york, than anywhere else around the circumference of york.