kaay became an author and entrepreneur. he used the business management skills he had acquired to build full scale into the band that was signed to columbia records to start his own australian company. right after full scale, he joined sunk loto in september 2006, until they broke up in december 2007. after that he worked with the brown brothers for nearly two years on an unreleased project tentatively entitled, "the flood the flood". deciding to retire from the live-music-touring scene in 2008, kaay released a series of books, "robkaay journals. vol. i, my glorious nightmare" (2008), based on his recollections of his music career over a period of ten years. vol. ii followed in 2010 as "this is what it's really like being in a band". he has also written two fantasy fiction novels, "silverbirch: a tear in the fabric of the night sky"(2009) and silverbirch: fall of the epicenter. his first silverbirch novel cracked the top 10 amazon.com chart in its first week of release in the science fiction category. kaay is now a successful entrepreneur running multiple businesses under his company kaay.com.au(.)