and they uphold the belief that the quran is the speech of allah, his revelation and light. it is not created, since the quran is from allah and that which is from allah is not created. one of the attributes of allah is his speech. since his attributes have been with him eternally, his speech cannot be created and therefore, the quran is not created. according to the salaf, debating about it is disbelief. it is not denied except by a jahmee. a jahmee is one who denies allah’s attributes.