in june of 2009, dolmayan formed a new rock band called indicator with three friends from southern california, members of the recently disbanded punk rock band, if all else fails: tom capossela, ryan huber, and ryan murphy. the band played their first show at the bitter end in san diego on july 22, 2009, with dolmayan's fellow scars on broadway member franky perez joining the band for a few songs. their second and final show took place at a strip club in las vegas. the band wrote 10-12 songs from 2009 to 2010; live and acoustic demos exist of them all. the four remain in contact although it is uncertain whether the songs will ever be properly recorded.