i mean with this exhibition that we've booked ‘just the job’, which is black women erm and the kind of jobs that they've got, a large percentage are carers and erm  and it is the thing that erm women feel that they can do and it erm in a way that it comes out of their role in the home, the caring role, and erm and it's a role that they get sort of erm trapped into and it doesn't pay very much money, as brenda was saying earlier.