the the particular point that that i wish to pick up on though was from m mr curtis and his reference to erm the draft p p g thirteen, and whilst i'd say that the point of the h b f that it's only a draft publication at this stage, there's in my view been too mu much over reliance on the reference in there to self containment, you see if we look at that particular paragraph, two point one two, it actually says avoid the development of small new settlements which are not to, sorry, i'll start that again, avoid the development of small new settlements which are not be likely to be well served by public transport, or which will not be largely self contained.