the third reason why we're, we're pleased to see you here is that erm as a trades council, we've and this er and dick mentioned this in his introduction, we've initiated a major international programme, major in terms of our size obviously as er as a local body, involving links between union activists here primarily in france er, in northern france, but also links now developing in spain with the new ferry going between portsmouth and bilbao, we're starting to meet with the unions in spain who are interested in speaking about the, the, the differences in wages in terms and conditions working for the same ferry company, doing the same jobs in the port, a comparative look at how the, the wages terms and conditions differ and we want to, we want to go and visit them in the autumn and, and work out, and work on more links on a sector basis, so that our colleagues down in bilbao in northern spain can link up with people in the, in the, in similar sectors here and we've done this over the last three and a half years with the unions in france, we've had exchanges of all sectors, the public sectors, transport, erm, health, social services, shop workers.