but i think, looking back in history, there has always been a erm strong erm religious motivation behind many of the past great scientists, like newton, erm boyle, maxwell, calvin — these are all people who had a very strong religious motivation erm behind their investigations, and if you look back in history still further, there is a strong case to be made that the reason why science was so dramatically successful in the west was because there was a strong belief in monotheistic religion, that people believe that the world had been created in an ordered way by a deity and so there really were laws of nature to be discovered, whereas if you study what happened in the far east, for example, in china, the chinese, you remember, were well ahead of the west in science at about the tenth century.