in one conversation with beast, she tells him nearly everything regarding her intentions in the then-upcoming war with the empire. in her opinion, she says, fabletown cannot win in war, simply because there "is" no war to begin with. to her, this is a personal duel between her and geppetto, with their respective "allies" being their chess pieces. to mitigate beast's horror, totenkinder further insists that fabletown and everyone in it is very dear to her, and she intends to get as many people alive out of it as possible. she explains that this drive to destroy geppetto and wipe out all he created stems from a debt she believes she incurred when rose red and snow white rescued and revived her after her defeat at the hands of hansel and gretel. in return for their "undeserved act of kindness", totenkinder made their enemy her enemy and eventually decides to free the homelands for them.