so erm, i think when she said she didn't know, er, she was telling the truth, and when asked her if she could explain to me, the very point that  just asked me, again she said she, she couldn't explain, she had, she she'd agreed, agreed it was a paradox, that she didn't really know erm, why the book had never been published, or  until nineteen sixty seven  erm note, note that it, that it had been taken.