decades later, in 1439, perhaps at the death of william who would have been 69 years old, richard rede conveyed the property to thomas nicoll (thomas ap gruffudd ap nicholas?), “as of the gift of william rede brother of the said richard”. a conveyance by fine implies an agreed exchange, so it may have been by previous agreement that thomas nicoll conveyed machrells walles to william’s son, richard. in 1452 richard rede, esquire and his wife maud transferred machrells walles and other properties by quitclaim to richard’s brother, thomas rede, esquire. the roche remained in the family for an additional 120 years until james rede sold it to sir john perrot in 1572.