well the fear of boring you because i've said it before, i think that either a trustee made up of an equal balance of members from the various interested groups which is very difficult to achieve in practice  and additionally independent trustees certainly in our case, we believe would have stopped it happening  because the movements in the direction it went was clear  now that we have the information in front of us to the trustees, it was quite clear what was gonna happen and nothing was done about it.