for those tha who are not to familiar with, the initials p p g, it stands for planning policy guidance, and there are a whole series of these guidance notes produced by the department of the environment for the er advice guidance of, well not only the local planning authorities but anyone else who is interested in the development business, and they are expressions of, i suppose government policy, er and their attitudes towards various aspects, whether it's countryside, housing,trans or transport, and they do pro provide a useful backcloth, in fact an extremely valuable backcloth to the way in which er this matter should be considered, erm i know from the submission which north yorkshire county council have used they would say that the fact they haven't had regard to all this er, but i would like to carry on the discussion against that background, and could you direct your thinking at this stage about the need for a new settlement in the light of the principles spelt out in p p g three and particularly paragraph thirty three.