you perhaps haven't got the same degree of landlord exploitation, you might, i think one might argue from, from what we said earlier that in the north you've got a s a slightly more paternalistic landlord, it's, it, there's less, less absentee landlordism  landlords were more likely to have been behaving within the confines of moral economy  wouldn't, wouldn't have been  tt erm reducing rents, it was done on a much more, more personal sort of scale.