if there's a, you know, let's kind of shift gear a little bit now and a member might have been stationed in capital june and cabin june was known in the 70s to have contaminated water, so if a family member was there, then they would be exposed to that, so now the spouse can seek help through the va because they were physically stationed on that base and they probably drunk the contaminated water as well as the veteran, but outside of that, you don't really see a lot of help for the veterans.