oh, er, i don't know so much about knowing when and how so much, cos it  i mean who'd thought prices of houses would then go up as they did, you know, and there's er, i knew er a young women that was buying a house and these people said oh, oh it's, we're not just ready to move yet, we're not, and during this time daisy said were rocketing up in price and she couldn't afford one after