er, costing for parallel, repeat jobs, that's been dealt with by simon erm, client contact record i think that's now been assimilated into new procedures yes we have just talked about that er sub- contracting you have probably dealt with that, although we haven't discussed it yes er, list of procedure owners i have prepared and reissued it, i don't how wide they have circulated it, it was meant to go into the quality manual, and the quality manual is not being re-circulated until march time.