there are all sorts of people involved and the various underground factions, that maybe that one has, er as, probably as an afterthought er considered that, that maybe money in the release of any western hostages, that may be where the story has come from, but certainly from the informed sources, and the, the, er certainly on the evidence of past hostages releases, er we wouldn't really have expected that er ransom would be demanded, obviously we have to wait and see when er, when the hostages are set free.