what i'm trying to help you practise, cos we're not, we're very good at asking closed questions in conversations but don't very often recognize, but you know, we, we we we, we'll zip backwards and forwards, and that's okay, but i want you to do consciously is know what type of questions you're asking because you can sometimes be hitting a brick wall and thinking i'm getting anywhere here and it's because you're asking too many closed questions.