well no, now you see, now is, what's happened is this  tt we argued er the case after we saw the notice, but we only saw the notice about a week before it went into com into committee, so we'd only a very short time to get everything organized, well we got letters and this petition, we sent it in to the council, stanley came round and talked to one of the young men round our place, not like that, but he was saying oh we'll do this, that and the other, but when he came round and now we know they'd lobbied all the committee that were good and they knew it was gonna be passed, they knew before they went in it was gonna be passed