any wednesday podcasts were put on hold indefinitely to coincide with the retirement of the red show and the departure of lono on 6 april 2009. doc and dave, however, pursued a replacement internally with the community. on june 24, 2009 the show was replaced with a new crew consisting of dogsdieinhotcars, smelly pirate and saint mantooth and revamped to be a 30-minute-long show, consisting of its own news and features. all of these members were the crew of former the panda watch community podcast.