i must admit, some of you probably were brought up on meccano, and certainly not in the mo mo more sophisticated technology we've got at the moment, but the point is, a lot of these haven't really seen this part of what i call the basic technology itself  and er, it was interesting because we were trying to build up some kind of game for their summer fair and the game was quite obviously er, you know er propel a ping-pong into a er  series of slots with er, bit like bingo to a certain extent, where you can actually er  give prizes for the various holes you could actually penetrate and things like that.