but,then again with eileen  you never know with eileen she says well it's, it depends on our sandra she said i'm not building up on it cos you know what she is, but she says if  you know she might want alan to come and then she goes on and, and then, then she says i don't know what we shall do really if we do come, she says cos if eileen won't, she's work, really can't come if alan comes