i think one is largely on judging people in the hands of the media, looking at it from an ordinary party member i think it's the air he gives, whether it's an air of confidence  competence and perhaps and air of confidence, the way he handles himself in the house of commons, the things that he actually says, because within that time you're not able, in fact, to have achieved much erm parliamentary wise, one very much has to judge a person by what he has.