yes you do and, and also, another thing, and it's, in a way it was a bit annoying because we'd go on these like crash diets, you know, we'd get really nasty and s well not nasty and skinny we'd just get really skinny before we went cos you know we wouldn't eat anything except like fruit for a  we, we'd eat, we'd go on a diet and then we wouldn't eat fruit for, wouldn't eat anything but fruit for the week before and so we'd, you know we'd like have flat stomachs and you feel, if you haven't eaten you feel thinner even if you're not, it's all, it's a bit, it's psychological isn't it?