but when he gets round to it, i think he'll control them a bit more closely, now you can invest in that sort of fund quite safely, and although it won't give you any capital growth, because if they're giving you ten percent income, obviously the capital growth's going to be limited, but er if it's the income that you're after, not a bad thing to do, so i mean at the moment i may actually combine one income-type er p e p with one growth and income, where the, where the, perhaps the yield is about five percent.