but thanks very much indeed, patricia from chipping norton, and also thanks to my guests; the reverend martin flatman, the vicar at saints mary and john church in the cowley road; to pauline dungate  well, i don't know how to describe you except as a wonderful woman; reverend david brian, the curate at christ church in abingdon; sister jenny, who runs the porch, a drop in centre for the homeless in the cowley road area; and lesley dewhurst from the support group elmore.