and er the  foreman and bosses that knew people and they knew the circumstances and  i suppose they put a word in and erm you know men were sort of stopped because er i mean, if a man had a house full of children or something, he'd probably be the very last  you know  before he was sort of forced to g you know sacked or wh and i mean they weren't sacked in a sense, they was always ready there was a place ready for them to come back to there.