and i think that there is a very strong argument erm for getting women in the cabinet on the basis that if women are seen to be in the cabinet they are seen as competent, they're seen as excellent politicians, and that's why i go for a form of positive discrimination, which is that if you've got two people who are equally well qualified, and if erm mr major decided that a man and a women were equally well qualified, then i think he should have chosen the woman erm