in other words they are being totally unfair in that process and as a result of this more people are likely to suffer as a result of fire  council and savings which are clearly  er is proposed  er that is conservative review that we should not be using new money or money within the environment budget which is better stretched for all the other services, to find that other  fire fighters as much as we agree they are needed when clearly there is another pot of money which was available for this service and which the other two groups have decided they will  take