i'm erm  i've been working in low cost housing, housing charities, for a very long time, with shelter and various other charities like that, and i never cease to be amazed that the conservative group, here or nationally, are hostile to subsidies for council housing, because the subsidy which goes to owner-occupiers, through mortgage tax relief, is very much greater than the subsidy that goes to council housing and there's nothing we as a council can do about this, but i do hope that in due course we will get a fair system of subsidising houses for everybody, so that wealthy people on high incomes who are getting a big subsidy on their housing through their tax relief, erm are not getting more than people on low incomes living in council houses.