i was a witness and so on you see and down below  and the sergeant said to me, the sergeant came up and said to me, you'll have to be careful because he said that boy, he was sitting there with his mother, poor woman, all in black and er the em the boy's employer had got a solicitor on his behalf, you see, and i said well i can only speak through and say what happened, that's all i can do and er, so of course when i went into the witness box this man came and er asked me all sorts of questions.