yes, i wanted to emphasise the way some men feel constrain before, not because i want to suggest it's now becoming a problem for men and we should be worrying about them, but because you asked what prospects there were for doing something about it and i think if something's to be done about it, and it's a problem of everyone devising new standards of behaviour, it's very important that quite large numbers of men should be prepared to play a part in trying to work out what these standards should be, and there is quite substantial interest in trying to do that, both at the level of the teaching staff at the university and at the level of the undergraduates.