well i think you've heard some of it already in your programme, but in the afternoon session which was extremely interesting, the city council and oxford university and the vale of white horse district council and west oxfordshire district council have jointly financed some major research for independent research bodies and that research was put forward yesterday, this afternoon rather, to the panel, and it concerned the economic order, social order and what should come next and so on and so forth, and those academically research papers, not politically prejudiced papers, showed that there would be a loss of 6,150 jobs if these plans went ahead, with an estimated loss to the oxford economy of between 8 and 17 million pounds a year.