Question: Both Grinderman and Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds are a rock band based out of where?
Related documents: [0]  [DOC] Grinderman is the eponymous debut studio album by alternative rock band Grinderman, a side project of members of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released on March 5, 2007 on Mute Records in Europe and ANTI- in the United States. Aiming to recreate the more raw, primal sound of all former related projects such as The Birthday Party, "Grinderman"'s lyrical and musical content diverged significantly to Nick Cave's concurrent work with The Bad Seeds, whose last studio album, "Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus" (2004), was primarily blues, gospel and alternative-orientated in stark contrast to the raw sound of the early Bad Seeds albums. Incidentally, the musical direction of "Grinderman" influenced The Bad Seeds' next studio album, "Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!" (2008). [END] 
[1]  [DOC] Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds are an Australian rock band formed in Melbourne in 1983 by vocalist Nick Cave, multi-instrumentalist Mick Harvey and guitarist Blixa Bargeld. The band has featured international personnel throughout its career and presently consists of Cave, violinist and multi-instrumentalist Warren Ellis, bassist Martyn P. Casey and keyboardist Conway Savage (all four from Australia), guitarist George Vjestica (United Kingdom), keyboard/percussionist Toby Dammit (United States) and drummers Thomas Wydler (Switzerland) and Jim Sclavunos (United States). The band has released fifteen studio albums and completed numerous international tours, and has been considered "one of the most original and celebrated bands of the post-punk and alternative rock eras in the '80s and onward". [END] 
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Melbourne
Melbourne