text: As a result of this thread, Does The Return Justify the Investment, i'm thinking ... we might want to share with each other ... what kind of return we are expecting from our investment.
  Over the years, my perspective has broadened considerably. I now tend to automatically think of the collective, over my own self. For truly, when i think of my own self, that includes my children, their children, and all who's gone before us, instantly going from self, to the collective. It has been a journey getting here, and i don't imagine everyone has traveled the same road, so i don't expect the same from all of us. I'm just saying, this is how i think, and thinking this way, makes me think of our collective contribution to "religion / spirituality" ... our expectations of it ... our collective return on the investment ... as it stands right now.
  Yes, i have my own personal returns that i can speak of. God has blessed me abundantly. I often say, i am blessed beyond compare. I could list hundreds of things, even thousands, proving that i am highly favored of God.
  But that does not speak to, or change, the current collective condition and mistreatment of my people, around the world.
  So when i think on collective return vs collective investment, it appears that we are coming up way short.
  So it makes me begin to question, if "religion / spirituality" is meant to be the answer for us collectively ... since it has not done that as of yet ... and ones much greater than i, more committed than i could ever be, gladly shedding blood for, killing for, and dying for, "religion / spirituality" ... have gone before me ... and even still ... our collective condition is dire.
  Maybe "religion / spirituality" is meant only to be personal ... since we all have personal testimonies.
  What do you think ... what do you expect ... personal or collective returns ... and are you receiving that?