text: Updating 9/1.  Tried a half size larger and the shoes I received were stretched way out on top.  I was beginning to think my foot wasn't high enough when I tried another shoe off Amazon that was stretched on top.  There's some f'd up people trying on shoes.  Anyways, maybe getting one with goring on top might be a better move for all of you looking for loafers on Amazon.  Again, returns are easy, so no sweat.  I wanted to add a few things upon inspection.  I wore them just sitting around the house and I felt my circulation cutting off after 30 minutes.  They squeeze and I'm not sure about me saying they might have give (read original part).  Seems like they should being mesh and all.  The lining under the mesh and the leather trim must override the mesh.  My other Rockports don't feel so tight and I don't think it has anything to do with being medium width.  In fact, my toes don't feel pinched that badly.  Also, they are navy, which looks good on the leather, but almost looks purple on the mesh.  Just tried them on.  Not worn outside.  Not sure I'll keep.  My observations; Very rigid around the opening.  Feels like it will be tight at first.  It feels it has a lot of give once you suck them in and walk.  Looks and feels breathable.  The blue rubber on the bottom is very hard.  Harder than my Zonecush chukkas for sure.  I have wide feet and while my little toe feels somewhat pinned, it doesn't bother me.  Might go for the black instead.  Navy is really blue.  The leather is suede.