text: I bought my usual size of these in a local store.  They felt great.  I need some width in the forefoot; often I need the wider width in athletic shoes.  These have enough room in the regular width.  But after wearing for a few weeks, I had to admit that pair was too short in the forefoot (even without using my orthotics); the ends of my toes hit the inside of the shoe when out on walks.  So I ordered a full size larger through Amazon. I've kept these, and the forefoot length is good, but there's more room than I need in the back half of the shoe.  I put adhesive heel pads in, which helps some with heel slip.  Maybe getting a half-size larger would've been better--but not worth return shipping.  There's not much arch (a little in the insole only, not the shoe)--OK for me b/c it's not exactly where mine is.  On the plus side, you can pull out the insole and use orthotics with these, and there's lots of cushioning and spring to the soles.  All in all, they're good for a decent, inexpensive shoe--but be careful of the fit.