text: This is the 4th year we've bought these shoes for my daughter. She goes to a private charter school and they have a very strict uniform policy. These work well with any of her uniforms! I absolutely love these shoes and will continue to buy them until she cannot fit the sizes anymore! I would go up a half size or so just bc of the narrow-ness of the shoe. I always buy the white pair, but the black are pretty as well.