text: There was really no arch support in these shoes. I ordered orthotics for them when I purchased them.  I tried to wear them without the orthotics but hurt my feet.  I now have the orthotics and they feel great.  Only took about 2-3 hours to break in.  I would have rated them 5 stars except for the lack of support with original shoe bed.  Thanks so much.<br /><br />Just got these shoes just over a month ago and now the sole is coming off.  I am 5 days over a month and they are no longer eligible for returns.  No way to contact the seller so I am NOT HAPPY WITH THE PRODUCT!