text: I was very disappointed that this shoe was much longer and somewhat wider than size 8 M in any other brand I've worn.  Returning the shoe was complicated and costly.  Shoes arrived in a battered and taped box with small print indicating that 15% would be deducted on returns if the box was original and in good condition without tape.  I finally received a reply that I would not need to pay the 15%.  I like the shoe, but I do not plan to order again since I do not know whether the shoes were marked with the wrong size or whether they run that much larger than other brands.