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 :I was watching the Icelandic names discussion and I wasn't going to say anything because I didn't want to unnecessarily complicate things. My only familiarity with the subject is what I've read on Wikipedia so I had nothing original to contribute. But since you brought it up, I don't mind mentioning a few thoughts here on my own talk page. 

 :I was very disappointed that more Icelandic people didn't participate. Even the person who made the suggestion which was adopted was . 

 :I have mixed feelings about that solution. I guess it's okay to sort things ""incorrectly"" if it actually makes it easier for people to find them. But, for consistency, shouldn't the same solution be applied to other names which are sorted similarly, such as Chinese or Arabic? But I don't think it could possibly work for Arabic names, as I've noticed that previous attempts by others to do any kind of sorting of those names according to Lastname, Firstname rules always result in strenuous objections. 

 :I also seriously question the appropriateness of WP:Manual of Style (Iceland-related articles) being marked . This was  by someone from Ireland, not Iceland, and the reasoning in the edit summary does not seem valid to me. Just because a page is stable, not requiring frequent edits, is no reason to apply a template which states that ""the page is no longer relevant, or consensus on its purpose has become unclear"". It appears that the user may have really objected to the page's title rather than its content. 

 :Honestly, I almost always restrict my sort key efforts to names which appear to fit Western naming conventions, because other names may have so many unusual rules and exceptions, and I don't want to unintentionally do things incorrectly. I figure it's better to have no sort key than an incorrect one. Ideally, I'd like to see those ""special"" cases handled by people familiar enough with the culture to really know what they're doing. 

 :I will keep an eye out for Turkish exceptions, but with my current strategies, I'm unlikely to encounter many. Good luck with your efforts.  •  "