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 == Request for a gentler tone ==    
      
  Joe, I'm sorry but I need to ask you to back off from the Nazi analogies, etc., in places like Talk:Aspies_For_Freedom. A lot of people who are really trying to do their best to improve the Wikipedia autism articles do not deserve such accusations. Most of them are in fact on the autistic spectrum, as well. At any rate, it does none of us any good for such comments to be posted publicly on Wikipedia pages. I think we can all work together to make WP better, but we need to focus on avoiding personal attacks and restricting the articles to a neutral point of view.     
      
 Thank you for caring so much about the content on Wikipedia; the project needs caring editors. But it also needs editors to be able to work together.    
      
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 The Nazi analogies are true. I cant help that. The fact is any attempt to remove a segment of the population via common genetic markers indicating a common heritage however remote will always invoke the nazi analogy.     
     
 There is no definite proof that autism or AS are genetic. Wikipedia is a place for all viewpoints, and the jury is still out on this one. And Maneki is right about the Nazi comparisions being a personal attack.    
      
     
 Heh, you sound like one of those creationists, trying to claim somehow evolution isnt true. It is 100% percent decided AS and autism is genetic. No matter how much you say it isnt true it doesnt stop being true. Please also I have no troll limit for discussion. Troll your psuedo science elsewhere.     
      
 Source? Who decided it was definitly genetic? And is established medical opinion (that autism is a disorder) ""psuedo-science"". I'd say that if anything you are trolling. You have been extremely rude, impolite, and confrontantional, not just to me but to other users like Gareth, Ryan, and Maneki. I have no grudge against you, just against your behaviour on this Wiki.    
     
 Note: And Eugenicism does not equal Nazism. The Nazis did follow eugenicism, but it dates further back than the founding of the Nazi party.    
      
     
 I have not been rude to gareth. and as ryan i have been extremely patient despit his total manic possiveness of articles.and as for maniker he is anon so I dont care about him     
     
  is not an anon. Users identified only by IP addresses are anons. And you have been extremely protective of the autism pages, saying that only autistics should be able to edit them and that Ryans NPOVing is ""destroying the article"". You have hardly been patient with Ryan, as he can attest.    
      
     
 I am sorry but you are being extremely POV to not to recognize my NPOV efforts      
     
 You called Gareth a backstabber, said Maneki was a NT troll and that he/she should be ignored, said I was a neo-eugenicst, that I am ""helping mothers into stirrups"", basically told PurplePlatypus to STHU and that he/she was a troll. Those seems like personal attacks to me. Also, though you may have contributed to the autism articles and other articles to a good degree, that does not give you the right to be rude and confrontantional.    
      
     
     
     
 You are embellishing. All I said you have views that led the nazi to kill the jews that will lead eventually to the eradication of all autistics.     
     
 I'm embellishing? You're the one who seems to regard everyone who does not share his POV on autism issues as a neo eugenicist, Evil!Nazilike!Oppresor.    
      
     
 ==Your comments on Talk:AFF==    
 This particular ""troll"" has done far more for the Aspie community on Wikipedia than you, even excluding your downright counterproductive recent activities. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU even begin to suggest such a thing. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.    
      
 You can delete it, but you can't change the fact that you said it. I have NEVER been so mad at anyone over something that happened over the Net. I especially love how comparing people to Nazis (then lying about it!