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 :::::::::Black Kite, you can't possibly consider that straw man tip of the iceberg to be a be a summary of what folks have weighed in on here on the problem. I would have though better of you.North8000    
 :::::::::Jenova20, my thought has been to mostly give up on this but just make a few comments. When folks responses go beyond disagreement into dirty pool tactics, as they continually have done here from the trio, that raises more severe issues that need a response and has prolonged the exchanges. And so if the trio here would disagree but avoid those nasty tactics, brief comments is all that you'd see from me here. North8000  "