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 ==Cutting both ways== 
 Thanks for your thoughts Georgre, I'll respond after shortly after some thought of my own. 

 Another thought in the interim is that the EU process should cut both ways - editors should spend some time RC patrolling, AFD'ing etc. I've done a bit in the past and was shocked at how much this site is vandalised by the minute (and also appalled at how unendingly dull dealing with it is). Bringing about an emergent class that has had experience in both fields must surely be a useful cultural change from the current system. Undertanding of each others positions will be so much easier if this were the case. 

 I think that admins should be mature, calm generalists to start with - If they would like to specialise later then thats find but lets have a culture that rewards both content and administrative actions from the start.  

 Maturity should definitely be a test in your derby - I've recently started asking ""Under what circumstances would you block an established user?"" at RfA - one girl recently told me she'd answer my question in a day or 2 because she had her english homework to do - when she did answer I'm told she'll block anyone for operating a sock puppet and can't distinguish between vandalism and dissent......The vote is currently 50odd for and 2 against. That said I'm sure there are plenty of whizz kids out there that are outstanding admins - but there emotional and social maturity needs a better test than all their IRC/high school mates piling in to RfA to support. |  "