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 :::::::::::::It's amazing that you continue to condone with your silence the personal vendetta ATren has against Avidor, with some of the arguments you raise both in the ArbCom and without.  Regardless, I think we would all do well to back away from the ArbCom since every one of us is raising the same arguments over and over again.  It's getting us nowhere except inflaming each other.  I would hope you'd at least agree on that point.    David '''''' "