:I think you're following me, and want this to stick to help you hastily call another killing a murder. Other than that, I think Holmes is going with the insanity defense. If he's not responsible, it's not murder, just homicide. The whole point of a murder trial is determining this shit, and the point of the [[presumption of innocence] is not determining this shit before the courts do.   04:34, July 6, 2015 (UTC)