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 == Hitler, the Beatles etc == 

 So someone has deleted my sentence about the wide-ranging nature of the supposed conspiracy (again). And I can't find any justification for this deletion in the discussion page despite debate about smaller issues.  Surely Hitler is a more important historical figure than Dick Cheney, but his supposed connection with Synarchism is suppressed. Ironically it appears that La Rouche's acolytes don't want their master's teachings to be shared with non-initiates. Well, too bad. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia. We need the full information.   
 :You seem to be pointing the accusing finger in the wrong direction here. The big re-write was done by Loremaster, who appears to be anti-LaRouche. I've just gone over the main LaRouchista source cited, ""Synarchism: The Fascist Roots Of the Wolfowitz Cabal"" by Jeff Steinberg. It does emphasize a connection to the Nazis, so that ought to be included. You lost me on the Beatles  is that facetious? There is also a paragraph on the origins of Synarchism: 
 ::At its core, the Synarchist international—like its front group Pan European Union—sought to create a one-world tyranny, modeled on the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte. The first ""Synarchist"" text was written in the 1860s by Joseph Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre (1842-1909), an occultist and follower of Napoleon Bonaparte's own mystical advisor, Antoine Fabre d'Olivet (1767-1825). Fabre d'Olivet had started out as a leading member of the Jacobins, participating personally in the foiled assassination plot against King Louis XVI in 1789. He later served as a top official of the Interior and War Ministries under Napoleon Bonaparte. His occult writings about ""purgative violence"" and the ""will to power""—antecedents of the works of Nietzsche—were adopted by Saint-Yves d'Alveydre, who launched the idea of Synarchism as a counter to the anarchy that had destabilized all of Europe, from 1648. 
 :I googled a bit and found that LaRouche also regularly refers to Saint-Yves as a Martinist (see for example . So, I propose that the sentence that now reads 
 ::For example, American dissident Lyndon LaRouche describes a wide-ranging historical phenomenon, starting with the Martinist Order followed by individuals, organizations, movements and regimes that are alleged to have been synarchist.  
 :be amended to say 
 :: For example, American dissident Lyndon LaRouche describes a wide-ranging historical phenomenon, starting with Saint-Yves d'Alveydre and the Martinist Order followed by individuals, organizations, movements and regimes that are alleged to have been synarchist, including in particular the regime of Adolph Hitler.  
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 ::I approve. But for the record, I'm not ""pro-LaRouche"" nor am I ""anti-LaRouche"". I am simply interested in making sure readers readers know the facts regardless of whether it makes pro-LaRouche or anti-LaRouche faction of editors happy. As for my ""big re-write"", one could argue that it ""sanitized"" LaRouche's views by making them seem far more reasonable than they actually are...    

 :Jack Upland, do you approve of the current version of the Rule by a secret elite section?    

 I'm not sure what you mean by ""approve"". I don't condemn it, but as you suggest you have ""sanitized"" LaRouche by ignoring some of the more unusual parts of his theory. His view of Synarchism is far more wide-ranging than just a financial elite which backs dictators. For the record, my addition was: 

 :The LaRouche movement claims that this international conspiracy has involved people as diverse as philosopher Bertrand Russell, the Beatles, Dick Cheney, and the British Royal Family. 

 No, this is not facetious. The evidence and the reasons for including it are well canvassed in archived discussions. Unfortunately it appears that consensus editing means that the more unusual material is bound to be deleted. At least the version as it stands mentions Hitler...   

 #What I mean by ""approve"" is that Consensus is an inherent part of the wiki process. Consensus is typically reached as a natural product of the editing process; generally someone makes a change or addition to a page, and then everyone who reads the page has an oppor