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 ::::::::Deal with the cites I give and not what you ""know"" to be the ""truth"" about the cites I was not discussing right here  It makes it ever so much easier to discuss with a person who does not go off at right angles to my posts.   And I note you did not redact ""stupid Republicans"" which I suggest means you will not enter into a real colloquy here.  Cheers.   "