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 To Will: Here ya go, from the rules on consensus. ""Consensus should not trump NPOV (or any other official policy). A group of editors advocating a viewpoint do not, in theory, overcome the policy expressed in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not concerning advocacy and propaganda. However, a group of editors may be able to shut out certain facts and points of view through persistence, numbers, and organization. This group of editors should not agree to an article version that violates NPOV, but on occasion will do so anyway. This is generally agreed to be a bad thing."" 

 Told you we read the rules, discussion boards, blogs, personal websites NOT to be included. Propaganda sites, of which all the links to discussion boards and blogs here have been, are NEVER to be included. I ask you again for the guideline, rule, anything to prove that including discussion boards, partisan websites, and rants should be included in this article or any other. This article and the CARM article are being used by a ""propaganda"" group that is intending to slander the author Matt Slick. Again, show me the rule/guideline that states you MAY link discussion boards, blogs or personal websites. I am still waiting to see it. I said several times, if someone will show me that guideline, I will certainly agree to including the blogs and rant websites that are linked here. Peggy"