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 :Scott, 
 :About the references to Ken being an agnostic: from what I know, his agnosticism was quickly swept up by his spiritual experiences with music. Therefore, I didn't remove the comments entirely. I just made them less emphasized. 

 :My understanding of Ken's life is that he didn't really have the ""angry agnostic"" phase that Helen did. He simply walked away from Judaism and all religion, and then found music  which led him back to a spiritual awareness.  

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 ::Hello Asclape, 
 ::Actually, the single instance that I know of where Wapnick has ever used a swear word (though I have no doubt that his closer friends know of more instances) is when he once described a part of the Jewish belief system.    I can't remember exactly where I found this, but I read it somewhere in my studies of him.  It is a story of his dislike for the Yeshiva.  Here is (roughly) how it goes: 

 :::""I was in my final years at the Yeshiva and the more I learned about the principals of traditional Judaism, the less I liked it.  I remember once while sitting in class while the instructor described to us the story of how God supposedly made the Sun stand still for a day so the Jews could conquer the city of Jericho.  I remember leaning over to a friend sitting next to me and whispering the word, ""bullshit"", into his ear, and him nodding in agreement."" 

 ::If you would like, I would be happy to find the exact reference to this.  In doing my research for the article, it is true that I don't recall ever coming upon the exact phrase, ""I was relieved to leave the Yeshiva"", I feel that my assertion that Wapnick was relieved to leave the Yeshiva is still valid, based on the above account.  So please, don't take this material out.  I think it adds significantly the article, and that to erase it would take away.   

 ::Thanks, 

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