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Roosevelt Years (Serb that warned Hoover on possible attack on Pearl Harbour)

Posted on by kronos77

The British double agent Dusko Popov, who reputedly inspired Ian Fleming’s creation of James Bond, was approached by the Germans to become their spy. Popov did so, but reported everything he did to the British.

When the Germans sent Popov to set up a large spy ring in the U.S., he was asked to gather some very provocative information for the Japanese. The Japanese request, called the "Japanese questionnaire," involved a lot of extremely specific information about Hawaii and Pearl Harbor. British Intelligence and Popov came to the conclusion in August of 1941 that the Japanese were preparing an invasion of the United States at Pearl Harbor.

The FBI was very unfriendly to Popov. Hoover disliked double agents, especially wealthy playboys like Popov who showed up at Hoover’s favorite New York City nightclub, the Stork Club. Hoover added the "Japanese questionnaire" to other evidence he had that the Japanese were very interested in Hawaii, but he did nothing with the information from Popov or other sources.

Gentry claims that it is possible that with the thousands of reports that the Bureau received, it was difficult to determine which ones were legitimate. "Still, it is difficult to explain that Hoover...didn’t warn the president that two German agents had been ordered to study the defenses of Pearl Harbor for the Japanese, and that the last had been told it was ‘of the highest priority,’ indicating that a time factor was involved."

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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

by 2 posted onby kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)

To: marblehead17

ping

by 3 posted onby marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)

To: kronos77

Well, Pearl Harbor was but one of multiple spears hurled South by the Japanese in December 1941.

To: marblehead17

They don't show pictures of Dusko Popov. He's not as handsome as Sean Connery.

Dusko Popov

by 5 posted onby Stepan12 (Mark Steyn: "We are all spaniards now.")

To: Stepan12; tgambill

>>>>>>They don't show pictures of Dusko Popov. He's not as handsome as Sean Connery.<<<<<< Nor he was very bright either. Popov did not figure out that FDR is fully aware that Japs will attack Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was no surprise - it was allowed to happen with full knowledge of FDR, as doccuments released after WWII show.

by 6 posted onby DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)

To: DTA

"...Pearl Harbor was no surprise - it was allowed to happen with full knowledge of FDR..." Citation needed.

by 7 posted onby Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)

To: kronos77

I've always thought that Roosevelt knew that Pearl Harbor was coming. As an old navy guy, he probably thought the battleships could withstand the attack; he had the carriers moved out of the way.

To: DTA

Pearl Harbor was no surprise - it was allowed to happen with full knowledge of FDR, as documents released after WWII show.<<<

Bingo!..we have a winner!....Now...something that has always bothered me about that, is the fact that despite the American peoples reluctance to enter the war (polls of that time were as much as 70+% against) had we not entered the war at that time...we would all be speaking German on this thread.....Is there such a thing as a Shadow Government??

To: Stepan12

but he looks more believable

by 10 posted onby ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)

To: kronos77

The Popov-Hoover-FDR link has been in the historical background for at least 40 years.

I first read about it in the late 1960s/early 1970s while building up my private library on insurgent/counter insurgent operations.

The problem that Popov faced with Hoover was two fold. First, he had a demonstrated history of turning. While common in most of the world, Americans, even today, have a hard time dealing with people who switch sides. Second, Popov had a criminal background. Hoover who had completely revamped the FBI less than 20 years earlier wasnt going to deal with any one who had a criminal record unless he (Hoover) controlled him.

The in-born (in-bread?) American prejudice against people who change sides and have a criminal history hurt us in 1941 and continue to hurt us today. Will we ever learn?

by 11 posted onby Nip (SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)

To: Eclectica

by 12 posted onby DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)

To: DTA

History is not completely overturned over because one person wrote a book as Robert Stinnett has done with his Day Of Deceit.

Look, yes, the info and intercepts were there, but no one person had it all in one place to put it all together that the Japs were going to hit Pearl.

Consider this, if FDR did know about the attack and wanted to let it happen, what about the following? In the hours before dawn, U.S. Navy vessels spotted an unidentified submarine periscope near the entrance to Pearl Harbor. It was attacked and reported sunk by the destroyer USS Ward (DD-139) and a patrol plane. At 7:00 a.m., an alert operator of an Army radar station at Opana spotted the approaching first wave of the attack force. The officers to whom those reports were relayed did not consider them significant enough to take action. The report of the submarine sinking was handled slowly awaiting the request for further confirmation, and the radar sighting was passed off as an approaching group of American B-17s due to arrive that morning.

Now, did FDR order the Navy to slow down the Ward's attack report or the Army to disregard the radar reports?

Of course not! It was a long, long trail of many errors that gave the Japs their success at Pearl Harbor, but in the long run their sinking and damaging all the battleship there made it clear the aircraft carrier would win or lose the Pacific war. The Japs' carriers didn't, our did.

I am not a Roosevelt fan, but no US President... With the possible exception of Bill Clinton... would allow an attack on the US if he knew about it before hand.

by 13 posted onby Bender2 (Algore himself is an inconvenient truth...)

To: kronos77

Ah, Serbs, is there anything they can't do?

To: PAR35

FDR was just one of the boys, owned by Mandel House, Morgan, DuPont, et al. Col Mandel House, was described in Woodrow Wilson's own diary as his "Alter Ego"....

You are however, absolutely correct....They did move the carriers because the "planners" knew that the carriers would be needed for the war they instigated...and have been instigating since WWI.

by 15 posted onby tgambill (I would like to comment.....)

To: M-cubed

There is absolutely a Shadow Government that has been running things as far back, as you don't want to know. I've been studing this over the past 8 years and only recently have come to understand how it is organized and how it has functioned over the generations. It's an amazing agenda and using very complex strategy.

The Shadow Government does exist and works through the CFC and RIIA, for starters............

by 16 posted onby tgambill (I would like to comment.....)

To: Bender2

no US President... With the possible exception of Bill Clinton... would allow an attack on the US if he knew about it before hand.<<

Citation needed...

To: ozzymandus

>>>>Ah, Serbs, is there anything they can't do?<<<< Sure there is. When Nikola Tesla started working for Edison, Edison promised Tesla 50,000 dollars, which is about one million dollars in today's term, if he would make inventions for him. Tesla did, and then when he asked for his payment Edison laughed and told him that he "did not understand our American sense of humor". Dusko Popov also did not understand American sense of humor and he did not figure out that Edgar J. Hoover was perhaps the biggest American joke of the 20th century.

by 18 posted onby DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)

To: M-cubed

Re My: "no US President... With the possible exception of Bill Clinton... would allow an attack on the US if he knew about it before hand.<< "

Your: "Citation needed..."

If anything needs to be certified, it is your sanity to believe any US President... Again with the possible exception of Bill Clinton... would allow an attack on the US if he knew about it before hand.

by 19 posted onby Bender2 (Algore himself is an inconvenient truth...)

To: DTA

You may choose to start digging from here: And you, here: http://www.answers.com/topic/pearl-harbor-advance-knowledge-debate We knew that attacks could come at Midway or Pearl. Evidence shows that FDR may have never seen more indicative reports. Author Stinnett had a book to write, which reads like a kind of "grassy knoll", designed to make money. At Pearl, we weren't altogether asleep: a mini-sub was sunk earlier that morning, and they were known to be launched from submarines. I'd call it Denial. BTW: I've traveled via the SS Lurline.

by 20 posted onby Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)

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