I didn&#x27;t think that first quote was your argument, I just thought it was the dumbest thing you said. I think it&#x27;s silly that you believe that past wrongs can be rectified and that future wrongs are definitely going to happen, and that that invalidates the argument you presented about discrimination against white people not existing. Theory or argument, that&#x27;s pedantry.<p>&gt; Not all discriminations are equal.<p>Never said that.<p>I was implying that anything that was discrimination was wrong. Are you arguing the opposite?<p>&gt; We can measure the effect [etc] and the impact [etc] and it can ascribed monetary value [etc]. <i>No formula will be ideal in all cases, but that is not an excusable barrier. [emphasis mine]</i><p>You&#x27;ll have to inform me then why there&#x27;s debate on the ballpark percentage of the wage gap or even that it exists in general, just as an example. (not arguing for or against, but that there <i>is a debate</i>) And it is perfectly excusable for someone not to take action, or not to execute a very big action, if it is not the correct action, unless you think justice is necessarily coexistent with wrongful imprisonment.<p>And how do you pick who gets affirmative action anyway? I&#x27;m a Polish immigrant. My ancestors have been fucked 5 ways from Tuesday by just about every major happening in Europe. It was still 1989 when communism fell (only <i>27 years ago</i>), and it left desolation and despair in its wake. Coming to the US, my parents and I had just about nothing.<p>And better yet, I&#x27;m not going to claim I deserve something. Because the world dealt me and everyone a shitty hand and the best I can do is play it, no matter the odds. Even if someone got a better hand than I did.