I was putting the <i>number</i> of deaths into context, not the cause of it. Laws are sledgehammers, not scalpels, and keeping things in context is important. Cyclists die every year from being car-doored, yet we don&#x27;t seem to be so passionate about fixing that, nor inconveniencing the whole demographic of car drivers because of a few idiots.<p>As for your last sentence, if you re-read what I said, you&#x27;ll see &quot;by itself&quot;. It was put there there along with &quot;Australia has a problem with drinking and violence&quot; to suggest that you need to argue with more than just what is actually a very few deaths. It&#x27;s like you wilfully misread me.<p>As for &quot;no you&#x27;re not&quot;, do you mean you&#x27;re not claiming that 20&#x2F;100k are deaths from alcoholic assault? I can&#x27;t see something else I said you were doing. Then why the hell did you bring it up? Who was talking about long-term effects of alcohol on health?