Especially given that good talent here in Berlin is much much cheaper. 80k&#x2F;year scores you some superstar devs, while that&#x27;s probably the peanuts some out-of-school pre-puberal intern would earn at a Valley startup.<p>What&#x27;s really expensive here is management people and the way German hire the mid-level management is broken most of the time. I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s a German thing or a global corporate thing, but I&#x27;ve personally witnessed some pretty interesting hiring horror stories.