80k&#x2F;year probably includes the 28-ish% &quot;Lohnnebenkosten&quot; (incidental wage costs)<p>So the actual paycheck would be around 60k. I think that&#x27;s pretty ok for Berlin?<p>Having worked in both, Germany and Silicon Valley, I&#x27;d say that the middle management hiring is certainly a bigger problem in Germany than I&#x27;ve seen on either the east or west coast in the US.