&gt;look, this happens if you side with the wrong guys, that is, not us<p>So if you side with the wrong guy, you force the world&#x27;s biggest army to get in, wave it&#x27;s dick around then force it withdraw and manage to establish a communist regime anyways ? Ho Chi Minh would consider that a pretty good deal.<p>&gt;north and south<p>You do know the US was fighting WITH the South Vietnamese army, right?<p>&gt;the forests and infrastructure destroyed, the consequences of that war today (Agent Orange, unexploded bombs),<p>A war happening in your country does that. It&#x27;s not particularly special. We&#x27;ve had this little thing take place around here called World War I &amp; II. The marks still exist, we find unexploded bombs rather regularly. It tends to happen when you bring explosives and various kinds of weapons and shoot them around. Are antipersonnel mines OK in your book too?<p>But hey, if you&#x27;re happy that civilians died by the thousands (you know, that thing that almost every single country on the globe has agreed to not kill in the case of a war) as an example, that chemical weapons were used against populations and that hundreds of war crimes were commited in the name of &quot;look, this happens if you side with the wrong guys, that is, not us&quot;, good for you. Muh freedom.<p>In the mean time, every single source I can find, the history I learned puts the US as the loser.<p>----------------<p>As an aside, our set of people who think the Vietnam was was a victory is now {&quot;American kiddos that cannot accept their great US ever loosing ever.&quot;, mmustapic}