&gt; Why is what the majority thinks an indicator of truth.<p>I&#x27;m not arguing about The Great Objective Truth That Pervades The Universe or whatever. I&#x27;m arguing about why HN readers are in favor of one thing but not another.<p>&gt; You attitude smells like speciesism<p>Yep, I am explicitly speciesist. I value the lives and experiences of humans more than I value those of non-humans animals.<p>&gt; kidnap someone...&#x27;cause they&#x27;ll be getting women frequantly with no effort<p>I assert without evidence that for most people, sexually assaulting someone would be a very unpleasant experience. I certainly find the idea utterly repugnant.<p>In fact, this point I&#x27;m going to say its pretty likely you&#x27;re just playing with utterly repugnant concepts for either the joy of saying repugnant things on the off-chance that it will result in us finding some interesting and useful way of explaining a part of the world. Just to let you know, I don&#x27;t think most people here want to join you in this exploration. I certainly don&#x27;t. Seriously.<p>Also, examine your gender assumptions.