The most maddening things is that even within a brand, size, S,M,L, etc. are inconsistent, never mind hoping there would be consistency of measurement across brands.<p>Their charts expose this onconsistency.  Some brands Mack Weldon, is more consistent than say American Apparel.<p>Even when objective measures like pants waist size in inches, typically a size 32&quot; actually 34&quot; --I guess to make people think they are thinner tan they actually are.