&gt; He has his bona fides; where are yours?<p>I called him out for his specific replies in this specific thread. I didn&#x27;t call out his reputation or character.<p>Maybe you should stick to what they and I actually posted here today, and not try to draw the conversation off track into reputation wars.<p>&gt; It&#x27;s entirely unnecessary to be a jerk towards him for saying this.<p>I don&#x27;t appreciate being called a &quot;jerk.&quot;<p>I stand by what I said, and what I said was that I felt (and feel) that they have a bad attitude to security. They&#x27;re trying to shift blame from the rails developers to every rails user, and their excuses are weak.<p>If you think that is &quot;jerky,&quot; that&#x27;s fine, but I feel like name calling and playing the reputation card for no reason is only going to take a conversation down a bad and unconstructive path.