An honest question on this: how much are these touted benefits around ergonomics, code-reduction, and simplicity are relative only to Angular or vanilla JS?<p>Our shops avoided Angular altogether due to the complexity with larger apps, and used few other frameworks and libraries instead.<p>Trying various real world React examples frankly seems to involve more code, and the learning curve for React+Flux&#x2F;redux&#x2F;etc is really not trivial for a lot of people.