Can we stop the whole &quot;engineers make a lot of money&quot; spiel?  Most engineers make between 120 - 160k in SF, where the median household income is 104k.  They don&#x27;t make more than product managers, project managers or even many BART operators.  See <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mercurynews.com&#x2F;salaries&#x2F;bay-area" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mercurynews.com&#x2F;salaries&#x2F;bay-area</a> if you don&#x27;t believe me.  Sure, they make a bit more than average, but if that&#x27;s the standard of &quot;a lot of money&quot;, you have a totally skewed view of how capitalism works and the wealth gap in the US.  Very few engineers are members of the capitalist class, commonly referred to as the 1% that own 40% of the country&#x27;s assets.  Making 50% more than the median is not a lot.  Making 500% more is a lot.