So 16 years is the magic point (for Danes? for [Western] Europeans? for all human beings?) beyond which imprisoning people has no impact on crime rates. Do you have any evidence that 1) that&#x27;s actually the case for Denmark or anywhere else, and 2) that&#x27;s actually the reason the Danes and others have set that limit?<p>That&#x27;s a strange use of the word &quot;secular&quot;, for which the Oxford dictionary that Google uses lists as &quot;not connected with religious or spiritual matters&quot;. What&#x27;s particularly religious or spiritual about the idea that the justice system ought to be about meting justice?