&gt; I expect though that you need a Google level VP8 kind of program for this to make progress (and Google failed there if you recall)<p>Google paid off MPEGLA so they wouldn&#x27;t sue for anyone using VP8. That smells like success. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2013&#x2F;03&#x2F;google-mpeg-la-agree-to-royalty-free-terms-for-vp8-video-codec&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2013&#x2F;03&#x2F;google...</a>