Current discussion (still in the 2nd page):  <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10969149" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10969149</a> (18 points, 1 hour ago, 2 comments)