&gt; All the EFF ends up doing is sounding like a propaganda wing of the state department.<p>However they end up sounding, the reality won&#x27;t change that covert surveillance is not good for a country and its citizens.<p>&gt; There is a reason Obama has to meet with the Tech Industry to talk about the spread of ISIS and other forms of lunacy<p>I&#x27;m tired of repeating this, but show me one incident, just one where government surveillance has helped stop a terrorist attack and I&#x27;ll be all in for your surveillance. The reality is that the terrorists of Paris attacks used plain-text SMS to communicate, which shows how ineffective our intelligence systems are.<p>All that is going to happen with covert surveillance is just more harassment of innocent citizens. What&#x27;s the guarantee that the agent doing the surveillance is honest and sincere and won&#x27;t take undue advantage of the data gathered from surveillance?