A somewhat less nuanced response, that (despite a lively conversation) never made it to the front page: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10831261" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10831261</a>