Sure, but in this little sub-thread I&#x27;m talking about the thug officers who think that polite refusal to answer their questions is justification for police harassment.<p>It&#x27;s far too common in the US.<p>And while it&#x27;s stupid to point a gun (toy or not) at police (I agree that death is a likely result, because you should never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them) that doesn&#x27;t excuse all the people who had cell phones in their hands, or the people shot within six seconds of a police officer arriving on the scene, or the people with no weapon and their back turned.<p>Yet in many of these cases we see officers closing ranks and claiming the victim somehow deserved it, and was somehow responsible for their death because they were arguing with police.<p>The US is unique in first world nations in murdering its citizens. It&#x27;s an abuse of human rights when it happens after lengthy court cases; I can&#x27;t imagine why it&#x27;s okay before an arrest is made.<p>(Unless someone&#x27;s life is in real and immediate danger).