Right now, karma on Reddit is worth even less than it is on HN. Comment votes don&#x27;t count towards your primary score!<p>That said, it&#x27;s a weird position. HN is pretty much the same in structure as Reddit, only with (intentionally) worse UI. It doesn&#x27;t make discussions shit. Yes, the common advice of &quot;try other subreddits&quot; is the key. Many topical subreddits have HN-quality discussions on them, and are frequented by experts in their particular domains. Those subreddits are probably one of the most trustworthy places on the Internet. You just have to check them out instead of judging everything in light of areas meant for the general population.