Culture and economics are strange. Is hazing the result of demanding discipline for high quality popular products? Or do popular products result in hazing since supply is bigger than demand?<p>What we can definitely say is sushi has become american standard and that without Japanese chefs, quality sushi would not always be available. Something I think about is sports. Winning doesnt always involve fun, sometimes its discipline, practicing endlessly and ensuring each member plays their part properly instead of give excuses and act solo.<p>Is hazing the problem? Or is not seeing hazings place in the world? Do we hate discipline ir just discipline at extremes? Why do we hit dogs to stop them from pooping inside and give them treets for listening to a name? I think there is grey area