And your point is? in both the USA and the UK (even more so) STEM majors are considered as greasy engineers.<p>Ivy&#x27;s and Oxbridge are more about forming networks for later life - just as public(UK)&#x2F;Private(USA) school is.<p>And cultures that fetishize STEM careers have just as many problems  - how many kids have been destroyed by tiger parenting or pushed into careers they don&#x27;t like or have aptitude for.