Hey Dave, long time no talk.<p>I can very much agree with both your points.<p>The first place I used Confluence&#x2F;JIRA because they were recommended by a new employee or perhaps a friend of someone at Atlassian, and getting the $10 trial licences.<p>Since then I&#x27;ve moved jobs several times, and those two products in particular have been the baseline comparison for whatever tools are in place.<p>The biggest stumbling block I find is often the licensing - So many times managers have been reluctant to fork out for it.