That isn&#x27;t the point I was addressing.  I was concerned with the absolute numbers being floated in this conversation.  They are thoroughly unrealistic for people outside a certain few areas.<p>On this specific point I don&#x27;t have a good opinion.  I don&#x27;t know much about the startup scene here because nobody is doing things I am interested in, but from what I can tell they seem to be saner than what you get in the Valley because nobody has delusions of unicornhood there.  Similarly, there are plenty of bust-your-ass BigCo jobs around here.  So both camps seem to pay similarity and seem to have the same scattergun of stress levels.