Wow, I&#x27;m at a total loss to explain why my own experience differs so greatly from yours: using ToBS cream, I&#x27;ve got lather in half a minute and I&#x27;ve lathered, stropped, shaved, and cleaned up in 10…  chalk it up to the diversity of human experiences I suppose.<p>Out of curiosity, did you ever try using distilled water?  Alternatively, did you by chance give any of the traditional brushless products out there, like Musgo, a try?  I use it while traveling and have had good luck with it.