Wait ... wait ...<p>I used ratpoison&#x2F;ion3 from about 2000 through 2007 and then switched to OSX.  So I never saw this ...<p>You&#x27;re saying that in modern Xwin&#x2F;Xorg, the actual applications have title bars and so on ... such that if I were using RP&#x2F;ion I would <i>see</i> the titlebars ?<p><i>Is that what you&#x27;re saying</i> ?