Traffic is bad in general.  The average SFite gets around on train, bike, walking and uber.  To drive your own car is pretty hellish.  If you try to drive a car over the bay bridge whenever there is traffic, it can take an hour.  When there is no traffic, it takes 8 minutes.  With the BART, if there is &#x27;traffic&#x27;, then your standing for 8 minutes in a somewhat cramped car as you go through the transbay tube.  If there is no &#x27;traffic&#x27;, then your sitting for 8 minutes instead.  Traffic is not an issue with a subway.<p>I hate suburbia.  It&#x27;s isolating and bland.  It&#x27;s always a 10 minute car production to go fetch something quick from a 7-11 or equivalent.  It encourages obesity and a lack of walking because you always have to get in a car.  It encourages long commutes and rush hour hell on the highway.  With a long train commute, I can read a book or do something productive with my time.<p>If I want to play my music loudly at 11pm, then I will get a unit that was constructed with soundproofing.   If a city is hampered by inept NIMBYs that prevent new construction with soundproofing being made, then that has nothing to do with urban vs suburban.<p>I think you haven&#x27;t experienced a proper metro system by saying public transit is a bus. Go to new york, and see how there is no &#x27;traffic&#x27; delays in taking the subway.  Where everything is avialable 24&#x2F;7 and the city is alive.