&gt; Clojure and Scheme are Lisps<p>Basically new languages with strong Lisp influence.<p>&gt; very much towards simplicity<p>Scheme maybe until the early 80s. Later it grew to Common Lisp size and beyond. See Scheme R6RS which is a complex language with tons of features and still underspecified.<p>&gt; The complex, do-it-all-in-one-huge macro is a Common Lispism, not a Lispism.<p>Not really. Macros appeared in Lisp in the early 60s and many Lisp dialects have used it in complex ways. For example the &#x27;famous&#x27; LOOP macro of Common Lisp actually was developed in Interlisp in the early 70s (as a part of &#x27;Conversational Lisp&#x27; &#x2F; CLISP), redesigned in Maclisp&#x2F;Zetalisp and then brought into Common Lisp. The original Common Lisp in 1984 did not even have that macro in the language description, it was standardized several years later - after a search for a better alternative failed.