Is the strawman the only argument fallacy people on the Internet know? I will not try to out-strawman your strawman, but I will just say, that you&#x27;ve misunderstood my example. You are still focusing on the material output and treating immaterial work as secondary.<p>I was saying, that the total output of the economy is both from physical production and knowledge work. In fact, most of the &quot;first world&#x27;s&quot; recent growth was knowledge work. Thinking that it grows and shrinks proportionally with only tentatively related inputs is wrong.<p>And secondly, sustainable exponential growth in a finite world is impossible in the long term. This is undebatable. However, we just might push the long term far enough for it to be irrelevant.