Electromagnetism is a the effect of a physical field that permeates all of space. Fields are real things, not just useful calculators.<p>Some of Max Tegmark&#x27;s writing as well as Lawrence Krauss&#x27; have describe gravity as the &quot;cost&quot; or the thing that is balanced by the expansion of space.<p>The expansion of space having been driven by another as yet undescribed field.<p>All things are physical. Consciousness is a side effect of information processing. Seems like we just have fundamentally different assumptions about what can be a valid belief.<p>I don&#x27;t just disagree with you. I think your belief about consciousness isn&#x27;t even well formed. I don&#x27;t even think there could exist evidence to support a belief like &quot;consciousness creates matter&quot;.