Thanks for taking the time to share these thoughts; I appreciate it. His comments resonate with a non-trivial number of people. Since they discuss human values we all share, that makes sense, to me. With respect to feelings of guilt and shame, I&#x27;m completely in agreement that they can represent a wake-up call to further self growth--but only insofar as we can link them to the human needs they are telling us to pay attention to. That&#x27;s where the self growth occurs. I&#x27;m not in agreement with using guilt and shame, as tools to get people to obey or submit, because doing so focuses our attention on <i>what</i> we want people to do, not <i>why</i> we want them to do it. They&#x27;re both important; without the latter, it&#x27;s just obedience training. I think we&#x27;re pretty close in our assessment, so I&#x27;ll leave it, at that. Thanks again.