It all depends... The question boils down to &quot;how much of a shit job are you willing to go after&quot;?<p>There&#x27;s always a few programming jobs that no one wants because the pay is awful and the company&#x2F;job description is crap (PHP web apps for 28k&#x2F;year? ROFLOL). But then they act as proof of employability for slightly better companies and soon you have 12-24 months of &quot;professional&quot; experience and landing interviews at OK companies is not unreasonable.<p>That&#x27;s how a lot of us, no degree type, got our first foot in the door.<p>IT systems type roles are also a good segue into programming roles. And IT admin roles are so much easier to land.