And?  We were talking about commonly held ethical or moral beliefs.   Not what &quot;true morals&quot; or &quot;true ethics&quot; are.   I quote those, but I don&#x27;t reject the idea that there <i>are</i> true morals or true ethics that exist outside of your opinion and my opinion.  It certainly <i>feels right</i> that there is a truth somewhere that is bigger than my ego.  I&#x27;m just pointing out that you can&#x27;t use general agreement across time and culture as evidence for said external, objective true ethics, because such an agreement doesn&#x27;t exist in a meaningful way.