I&#x27;m suggesting that in all previous attempts to reach the state you consider heretofore unreached, the states passed through have highly undesirable consequences. The uniformity of this result is striking and the consequences grave.<p>I&#x27;m suggesting that attempting to create a Communist society is a <i>really bad idea</i>. Every previous attempt to do so has led to exceptionally bad consequences. You&#x27;ve provided no reason to think that a new effort will avoid repeating these mistakes. In fact, all you&#x27;ve done is insist that the end goal of Communism has not been achieved.<p>That a leaderless society has not yet been created in the name of Communism isn&#x27;t relevant to what has resulted from historical attempts to create such. It matters not one whit to the question of what all previous attempt to achieve such a goal have produced.<p>Is your goal of a leaderless society with shared means of production achievable? I don&#x27;t know. I do know that I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s worth killing another thirty million people for the sake of another attempt at finding out. History strongly suggests that that is a significantly more likely outcome of an attempt than the creation of a stable leaderless society with shared means of production.<p>It&#x27;s in no way relevant that (Russia|China|North Korea|Cuba) are not or have ever been genuinely Communist in an idealist sense. It doesn&#x27;t matter if there ever has been a True Scotsman.<p>In conclusion, every attempt at Communism has failed. This is because every attempt to get to Communism has failed. This is significant because it calls into question the plausibility and achieveability of any kind of transition to Communism. This in turn suggests that Communism cannot ever be evaluated because it is not achieveable by means we consider acceptable. Thus, the initial question of &quot;Has Communism been attempted and failed, where Communism is defined in a textbook manner and the transition to it ignored?&quot; is rendered null and void.<p>In other words, if you can&#x27;t find unicorns, it might be time to reconsider the policy of virgin human sacrifice in order to search for unicorns.