&gt; Unfortunately this doesn&#x27;t work. You still tend to get downvoted into oblivion.<p>No, it does work; if it didn&#x27;t, I wouldn&#x27;t have more than 20K Karma, often with highly upvoted posts disagreeing with posts that are also upvoted (or at least not downvoted), including from people who are higher on the leaderboard.<p>The idea that you get downvoted to oblivion simply for disagreeing with the majority regardless of quality on HN (whether it comes from people who describe the majority as politically right-libertarian or leftist, or pro-FSF, or those who describe it as pro-Apple, pro-Microsoft, pro-Google, or anti- any of those things -- and I&#x27;ve seen it from every possible side of all of those, except I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve seen anyone accuse HN of having an anti-HN downvote-to-oblivion majority) is simply wrong.<p>Depending on basically random factors (who is reading when) posts on controversial topics that make substantial points well may occasionally get early downvotes for disagreement, but usually that gets overwhelmed, or at least neutralized, by positive votes very quickly.