About first part of your comment that is a simple false, that is simple lie western politician&#x27;s they keep telling you . I can see personally what it will turns when it implemented in real world.Personally ,in my personal life.But about involvement , You should read my comment again carefully, I did say west should involve vigorously , but with what? with changing mindset of people, providing them Internet, free flow of information.It is so funny for me , USA keeps spending unlimited amount of money for fighting Iran , the one of the most important thing they should do is to figure out a way for providing free internet and better proxies and these kind of things(Generally free flow of information), they are not working on that . You may haven&#x27;t seen what internet do with people life in middle east, I have seen it , personally , with my own eye. It turn fundamental religious idiots to people&#x27;s who spend life time behind the desk reading&#x2F;watching in internet.<p>p.s. about the part about country and religious.That was my whole point. YOU simply should show them your religion is wrong, people can fuck and have sex like haven (maybe better than that) in L.A. Without killing people.<p>Believe me , does not matter how much you are going to try and push. I will guarantee you , there will not any nation in middle east with these people.maybe a nation will be stabilize , but it will not democracy , it will be Saddam Hussein like leader and guess what , there is another generation of terrorist who will grow in Hussein like dictatorship.<p>Do you want nation. like you have in Scandinavia (in long term) ? keep working on their mind with free information flow.