In so not to edit posts and context, our talks were about the current shoveling of the mentally ill in the prison system instead of treatment.<p>There was a recent reddit article in &#x2F;r&#x2F;news that talked about a Hawaiian prison that screaming, throwing feces, and other illness had taken over as the makeup of the prison. In general, we have collectively decided that there will be no&#x2F;little support for the mentally ill, and that the jails and prisons will be the tool to stop them.<p>With the side effects as they are, how ethical is it to imprison them? They are ill, and we do not generally charge people if a legitimate illness causes a crime (no mens rea). And with the side effects, how ethical is it to force (by court) the drugs that &#x27;cure&#x27; them?