Eh, my premise isn&#x27;t that science and ethics are always are mutually exclusive. Like I said, you can do a perfectly ethical primate study and get great data, it&#x27;s just that philosophically there are many people opposed to the very concept of an animal study because it will infringe upon the animal&#x27;s &quot;right&quot; to self determination so they&#x27;ll fight against these ethical studies too.<p>Without these regulations, the animals get abused... it&#x27;s not sufficient to trust scientists to be ethical.