&gt;  there is no advocacy of using violence to achieve ends<p>Please explain the harrowing of hell.  My local cathedral has stained glass (14th century) of Christ in full armour, with big sword, going to hell to release the righteous (but not the damned), conquering hell in the proces.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;vidimus.org&#x2F;issues&#x2F;issue-04&#x2F;feature&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;vidimus.org&#x2F;issues&#x2F;issue-04&#x2F;feature&#x2F;</a><p>(Possibly not quite hell, but the bit before that.)<p>There is a long tradition of Christians using their bible to justify violence. There&#x27;s plenty of violence in the bible.  But, when pointed out, Christians start saying that those bits don&#x27;t count, or those bits have been misinterpreted, or that you need to read that other bit as well.<p>I have you saying that the quran is violent, and I have hundreds of millions of muslims telling me that it&#x27;s a book of peace.