&gt; <i>I think that the level of HN is rare online but offline things are much better (at least, in my experience).</i><p>Maybe you choose your surroundings better, but one of the reasons I like hanging out here is because I can experience some semblance of sanity that, from my point of view, GenPop is lacking. I know few people who try to understand what&#x27;s going on, but rest just repeat whatever they read on the news.<p>&gt; <i>Yes, please. But I fear that won&#x27;t happen in my lifetime, maybe in yours depending on your age. This took decades to fuck up it will take decades to restore and a completely different approach.</i><p>Yes, please. But let it please not end in the collapse of what we&#x27;ve achieved as humanity. That&#x27;s what I&#x27;m afraid the most - that at some point those tensions will explode and bring down civilization with them. The world is a fucked up place, but we&#x27;re at the point in history in which we must fix it, not reboot it.