<i>&gt; This is why I was curious, [...] is a pretty strong indicator that you&#x27;re probably lying.</i><p>Like I said above, discount all of my comments if you&#x27;d like, that was your goal in the first place.<p>It&#x27;s an indicator that I didn&#x27;t keep a list, and that, as I said, I don&#x27;t want a phone to be such an important part of my conscious experience that I could do so. I doubt any list I gave you would actually lend credibility here, as your position seems to be to discredit vs discuss.<p><i>&gt; Again, this is how trust works.</i><p>Not really, no. Trust is established through a set of conditions two or more parties agrees establishes authenticity. You&#x27;ve just made demands, I&#x27;m pretty sure.<p><i>&gt; And I wasn&#x27;t talking about [...]</i><p>Neither of these products is &quot;policing your peers in the name of some batshit security claims.&quot; Apple, Google and Microsoft have published ground rules for playing in their playground. You said above that you don&#x27;t want to play in Apple&#x27;s.<p>So don&#x27;t play in Apple&#x27;s. That&#x27;s totally cool. I just got sick of playing in Google&#x27;s. It&#x27;s counter to your message to attempt to force someone else&#x27;s compliance with your set of values, isn&#x27;t it?