&gt; On what basis have you arrived to those conclusions?<p>&gt; And don&#x27;t mistake the food that you can eat in your local Chinese restaurant to what the Chinese are actually eating.<p>I live in Asia.  My local Chinese restaurants are Chinese, and if I want Indonesian food I can eat it in Indonesia.  I should have given a shout out to Thailand as well, where sugar is put in lots of things you wouldn&#x27;t expect, like fresh fruit juice.<p>I suppose you can call Indonesian meals &quot;plant based&quot; when they largely consist of a heap of white rice, but I defy you to find the plants in the ever popular &quot;bakso&quot; and Indomie.