<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mail-archive.com&#x2F;ozdotnet%40ozdotnet.com&#x2F;msg10725.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mail-archive.com&#x2F;ozdotnet%40ozdotnet.com&#x2F;msg1072...</a> (pay attention to the date) and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9431689" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9431689</a> (which is the current status)